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Title: James Dornan Edgar
Post by: graebah on Saturday 15 June 13 23:23 BST (UK)
James Dornan Edgar

    Good Afternoon

    Can anyone assist.

    James Dornan Edgar (known as James) was born on 12 January 1891 at Ballyboley, Greyabbey, Co Down. He was a younger brother of my grandfather William Edgar.

    It is known that he went to work in the munitions factory in Gretna around 1916 and the rest of his life has been documented after that.

    There is a thought that he may have gone to Canada and returned to Ireland prior to 1916!

    Any information in relation to that period would greatly appreciated.

    Thanks
    Graebah

Title: Re: James Dornan Edgar
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Tuesday 18 June 13 18:46 BST (UK)
Hi Graebah, I quickly thought straight forward, but I checked both Irish Census b1901 and 1911 and there is a James, a carpenter, son of William John Edgar and Agnes Jane Edgar nee???? B. abt 1859, at Ballyboley.  They married about 1875  There are 11 children living in 1911  [Greyabbey is spelt Greyabby and Grey Abbey.] The census doesn’t mention his 2nd name Dornan If he had an older brother William, he and two others are not listed in Ballyboley census. I don’t think they are mentioned in the birth and marriage indexs of www.ancestryireland.com .  However family search says  your Agnes in Ballyboley is Agnes Dornan, the first child was David b 15 July 1879

William might be born since 1880 onwards, he must have left the family  another brother is Alex is a Blacksmith at the age of 13 in 1901. I couldn’t find a birth

Ballyboley is a townland surrounding part of the eastern side of the Mount Stewart Estate.  I wondered if he was employed by the Esatae and therfor more details might be found.

Ros Davies has a whole page devoted to Edgars on her website .http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/E/Edgar.htm
She has:-
William John    EDGAR Down regd. Downpatrick; son of Matthew Edgar ; married Elizabeth Doran 23 Apr 1867 CR There are about 6 Dorans mentioned inc Dorrian etc, but no Dornan.

Living or visiting Canada, try the free index of migrants on
www.findmypast.co.uk/passengerListPersonSearchStart.action
try birth years as  1891 plus or minus 1 year  There are several possible listings

So  not enough information, over to others to help your quest
Good luck JimG
Title: Re: James Dornan Edgar
Post by: graebah on Tuesday 18 June 13 19:21 BST (UK)
Thank you for the information.

Already have all the information to which you refer.

More specifically the information sought relates to the period 1912-1916.  There is a thought that James Dornan Edgar may have gone to Canada during those years prior to returning to Ireland before moving to Gretna and then to Carlisle.

Thanks
Graebah
Title: Re: James Dornan Edgar
Post by: gaffy on Tuesday 18 June 13 19:38 BST (UK)
More specifically the information sought relates to the period 1912-1916. 

You really ought to have said that you have information already to pin it down to this, I spent several hours chasing James' history from birth 1891 to the 1911 census  ??? (BTW, nothing other than the 1901 and 1911 census records found).

Lesson learned! I pass, good luck.
Title: Re: James Dornan Edgar
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Tuesday 18 June 13 20:01 BST (UK)
Lesson learned what a waste of time that could be spent on others who need it.
Title: Re: James Dornan Edgar
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Tuesday 18 June 13 20:08 BST (UK)
quotes Living or visiting Canada, try the free index of migrants on
www.findmypast.co.uk/passengerListPersonSearchStart.action
try birth years as  1891 plus or minus 1 year  There are several possible listings end quote
I am glad you knew all that.  In fact I am so pleased you have so much information that its a permanent Good Evening
Title: Re: James Dornan Edgar
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Tuesday 18 June 13 20:19 BST (UK)
I looked at your other posts
You do know everything,  so surely everything you write should be prefaced with "I {already} have a history of the Edgar family from Greyabbey dating back to 1836."
there are several ways of saying Good luck, but this is my selfish special
Good bye Luck
Title: Re: James Dornan Edgar
Post by: graebah on Tuesday 18 June 13 20:52 BST (UK)
Sorry  Sorry Sorry

Apologize profusely.

Original post should have made clear that the information sought related to the period after the 1911 Census up to 1916.

Sorry for the oversight and the trouble so caused.

Thank you
Graebah
Title: Re: James Dornan Edgar
Post by: Plm1959 on Thursday 31 March 16 21:51 BST (UK)
Hello graebah,
You asked a question about Hugh Dornan of Greyabbey. I think Hugh Dornan may have been my great great grandfather.
Title: Re: James Dornan Edgar
Post by: graebah on Friday 01 April 16 12:36 BST (UK)
Thank you for your post.
Agnes Jane Dornan married my Great Grandfather William John Edgar on 29th Dec 1876 at Carrowdore Parish Church.  The marriage certificate indicates that her father was Hugh Dornan (labourer).
The only indication I have to a Hugh Dornan is a gravestone in Greyabbey Old Cemetery (photo attached).  I an unable to confirm if this was Agnes Jane's father.

ERECTED BY
HUGH DORNAN
OF GREYABBEY
IN MEMORY OF HIS SON
JAMES DORNAN WHO DIED 12TH
OCTOBER 1870, AGED 25 YEARS.
ALSO THREE OF HIS CHILDREN
WHO DIED YOUNG.
ALSO THE ABOVE-NAMED
HUGH DORNAN WHO DIED 11TH
MARCH1906 AGED 75 YEARS.
ALSO HIS WIFE AGNES DORNAN
WHO DIED 18TH FEBRUARY 1907
AGED 79 YEARS.
ALSO HIS DAUGHTER
CATHERINE BELL
WHO DIED 11TH MARCH 1942
AGED 79 YEARS.
ALSO SAMUEL BELL DIED 13TH
APRIL 1951 AGED 79 YEARS.



Title: David Askin Edgar
Post by: ajedgar on Wednesday 22 June 16 02:07 BST (UK)
Hello,
William Edgar, father of David Askin EDGAR was my 2nd great-grandfather.
David's brother, Alexander Boden EDGAR was my great-grandfather.
Alexander's son Joseph EDGAR was my grandfather and my father was Lawrence EDGAR

I am interested in getting in touch with family members.

Regards
ajedgar