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Title: NZ query about John Arthur Bennett b1873 Kings Co Ireland s/o John and Florence
Post by: Bobi.com on Thursday 13 June 13 20:57 BST (UK)
Can anyone help with more detail about my Grandfathers lineage.


John Arthur Bennett b 27/5/1873. He was baptised at Bourney, Tipperary.

I believe his parents were John ? Bennett and Florence Matear b 1847.
Two sisters ? Frances b 1876 and Huonida b 1879 .

Thank you
 ;D
Title: Re: NZ query about John Arthur Bennett b1873 Kings Co Ireland s/o John and Florence
Post by: ballydw on Thursday 13 June 13 21:13 BST (UK)
Have a look at www.rootsireland.ie  you may be able to locate Baptisms and also Parents marriage here (pay site) :)
Title: Re: NZ query about John Arthur Bennett b1873 Kings Co Ireland s/o John and Florence
Post by: ballydw on Thursday 13 June 13 22:01 BST (UK)
What denomination were your Bennetts?
There is also a record for Albert Godfrey Bennett 24th Dec 1876 Baptism
Father John Bennett Born KNOCKINROGER. Mother Florence Emma Bennett Matear (this surname is unusual, I am wondering if it should be MAHER) :) You give John Arthurs birth as Kings Co and Baptism in Bourney which is in North Tipperary.
Title: Re: NZ query about John Arthur Bennett b1873 Kings Co Ireland s/o John and Florence
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 14 June 13 00:41 BST (UK)
Wonder if this could be a sibling? and wonder if the first name has been mis-transcribed in the index?
Birth: Hucnida Mabel Bennett, Jan./Mar.1879 Cork registration district, volume 5 page 167
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FBQZ-QWY

An online family tree gives her as Huonida Bennett born 30 Oct.1878. Mother Florence Emma Matear. Sister Francis Marion Georgina Bennett born 15 Sept.1875 and brother Albert Godfrey Bennett born 24 Dec.1876 died 1926. John Arthur Bennett isn't included.
Title: Re: NZ query about John Arthur Bennett b1873 Kings Co Ireland s/o John and Florence
Post by: Bobi.com on Friday 14 June 13 02:11 BST (UK)
Aghadowey and Neil this is very interesting.

I have a number of "scraps" relating to Florence Matear 1849, supposedly born County Tyrone with Francis / Frances 1876, Kings County and Huonida / Huorida 1879 County Cork.
On the 1901 Census, Florence and daughters lived at Kilvilcorris, Drom, Tipperary.

On John Arthurs enlistment papers he states that "He" and his parents were born at Tipperary, Ireland, and they were of Church of Ireland faith.
He met and married Miriam May nee Gale in Victoria Australia (married 1913)
They had a son Arthur Godfrey 1914 in Victoria. Flight Seargent AG Bennett KIA  1943 aged 29yrs
Twins born in Wellington, NZ 1918 were apparently stillborn.
After that all I can come up with is Electoral rolls and memorial notices for Arthur Godfrey.

 ???





Title: Re: NZ query about John Arthur Bennett b1873 Kings Co Ireland s/o John and Florence
Post by: dathai on Friday 14 June 13 11:24 BST (UK)
marriage on irish genealogy 14th march 1872  in st thomas church dublin  john bennett son of john bennett esq to florence emma matear  dtr of james matear architect witnesses charles harber and emma matear . address gresham hotel dublin and bruff co limerick for both. this might be a son of james, Huon arthur matear architect of liverpool there is also a marriage on 1881 /1894 lancashire parish project for another son to a bowerbank but the list of marriages is a bit too long for me to go through.ps i think john was born in 1874 according to family search
Title: Re: NZ query about John Arthur Bennett b1873 Kings Co Ireland s/o John and Florence
Post by: annclare on Friday 14 June 13 17:24 BST (UK)
This may be totally unrelated but as Huonida is such an unusual first name it may be worthwhile checking it out. Marriage in Santa Clare California Hounida M Bennett to Frederick Paul Garm 20 Dec 1915.

annclare
Title: Re: NZ query about John Arthur Bennett b1873 Kings Co Ireland s/o John and Florence
Post by: annclare on Friday 14 June 13 17:54 BST (UK)
This may be totally unrelated but as Huonida is such an unusual first name it may be worthwhile checking it out. Marriage in Santa Clare California Hounida M Bennett to Frederick Paul Garm 20 Dec 1915.

annclare
Just realised this is related to the family tree on A----y that Aghadowey mention except Huonida's husband is listed as Paul Gorm not Garm. Might be worthwhile trying to connect with the tree owner.
annclare
Title: Re: NZ query about John Arthur Bennett b1873 Kings Co Ireland s/o John and Florence
Post by: annclare on Friday 14 June 13 18:09 BST (UK)
Florence E Bennett age 60 travelled with daughter Frances Bennett age 32 Liverpool to New York on the Orduna 10 Nov 1914. Florence gave her brother as contact in the UK Mr A Matear Oileans House B--teth (difficult to read)  St Liverpool and stated on the passenger list that she was born in Dungannon
Frances stated she was born in Moneygall.
May help to find birth record.
annclare
Title: Re: NZ query about John Arthur Bennett b1873 Kings Co Ireland s/o John and Florence
Post by: annclare on Friday 14 June 13 18:39 BST (UK)
Another snippet in the US 1920 census Florence Barrett age 65 born Ireland immigrated 1914 is listed as mother-in law in the household of Paul Gorm (think this is a mis-transcription and should be Garm or he is using the Gorm surname version) Address Eleventh Street San Francisco father born Rumania mother b. Germany occupation lithographer.
wife Huonida b. Ireland age 35 immigrated 1914 Naturalised 1914
son Paul Gorm age 3 born California.
annclare
Title: Re: NZ query about John Arthur Bennett b1873 Kings Co Ireland s/o John and Florence
Post by: annclare on Friday 14 June 13 19:27 BST (UK)
From Calendar of Wills and Administrations 1858-1922
Summary -Letters of admin John Bennett late of Clifton Lodge Blackrock Lodge Co. Cork -- died 26 Oct 1879 at Kilvicorris Drom --- granted to Florence C Barrett of 4 Clifton Lodge widow.
See Link
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014894/005014894_00438.pdf

annclare
Title: Re: NZ query about John Arthur Bennett b1873 Kings Co Ireland s/o John and Florence
Post by: ballydw on Friday 14 June 13 20:05 BST (UK)
Huon Arthur Matear b. c. 1856 co Tyrone N Ireland.
Marriage 2nd August 1882 Parish Southport St Pauls Lancashire. Spouse Imeon Hirst Bowerbank.
Father of Groom James Matear. Father Bridge Lawrence William Bowerbank.

Huon Arthur Matear parents James Matear & Emma Martha Harber.

1881 UK Census. 15 Belmont St North Meols Lancashire.
Huon A Matear age 24. Born Tyrone N Ireland. Architect, Nephew to Head.
SARAH L Harber a.66 b. London.

1901 UK Census. Birkdale St James Lancashire.
Huon A Matear Head. 42, Wife Imeon H Matear wife b. Halifax Yorkshire age 40/
Imeon M dau a.17, Gladys b. 1887, Sylvia b. 1894.

Death Huon A Matear. b. c. 1857. Registered Jan qtr 1945 a.88.
Reg Dist Surrey North Eastern. Vol 2a page 84.

There are several ship passenger records for Huon A Matear Architect, the following is one:-
Departing London 17 Jan 1935 age 78 Architect, Destination Capetown SA. Ship Grantully Castle
Address in UK  BOWERBANK, Esher Surrey.
Title: Re: NZ query about John Arthur Bennett b1873 Kings Co Ireland s/o John and Florence
Post by: dathai on Friday 14 June 13 20:34 BST (UK)
another little snippet. i googled florence emma matear and this link to limerick city came up, a newspaper announcement of the marriage, paper unidentified. Bennett and Matear, John Bennett Esq ,Templemore, to Florence Emma youngest daughter of James Matear Esq of Melbourne.
Title: Re: NZ query about John Arthur Bennett b1873 Kings Co Ireland s/o John and Florence
Post by: annclare on Friday 14 June 13 21:14 BST (UK)
Another piece about Huon Arthur Matear
http://www.scottisharchitects.org.uk/architect_full.php?id=203342

annclare
Title: Re: NZ query about John Arthur Bennett b1873 Kings Co Ireland s/o John and Florence
Post by: annclare on Friday 14 June 13 21:20 BST (UK)
And possibly a Matear relative
http://www.cotyroneireland.com/bornburied/buriedmarriedAustralia5.html

annclare
Title: Re: NZ query about John Arthur Bennett b1873 Kings Co Ireland s/o John and Florence
Post by: annclare on Friday 14 June 13 21:26 BST (UK)
Marriage Reg. of James Mateer Cookstown 1858 vol 4 page 255 and Matilda Carson same references.
annclare
Title: Re: NZ query about John Arthur Bennett b1873 Kings Co Ireland s/o John and Florence
Post by: annclare on Friday 14 June 13 21:34 BST (UK)
James Matear b.c. 1832 and Matilda Matear (possibly Matilda Carson) b. c. 1838 left Liverpoool for Melbourne on the Lord Raglan 21 Feb 1862. Both stating they were of Scottish nationality
annclare
Title: Re: NZ query about John Arthur Bennett b1873 Kings Co Ireland s/o John and Florence
Post by: ballydw on Friday 14 June 13 22:16 BST (UK)
www.groireland.ie   to obtain a copy of the Marriage for
Florence Emma Matear & John Bennett. Reg District Dublin North 1872. Vol 2 Page 638
Title: Re: NZ query about John Arthur Bennett b1873 Kings Co Ireland s/o John and Florence
Post by: Bobi.com on Sunday 16 June 13 00:16 BST (UK)
Wow thank you all so much.
An unusual name such as Matear certainly helps . I have so much to follow up on right now.

Lets hope one day I can be proficient enough to help others.
But for now I will continue .....

 ;D
Title: Re: NZ query about John Arthur Bennett b1873 Kings Co Ireland s/o John and Florence
Post by: jackson926 on Wednesday 31 July 13 23:25 BST (UK)
I have information on John Arthur Bennett's family that you might be interested in.  My Grandfather,
Albert Godfrey Bennett, is John Arthur's brother.  They had two sisters, Frances and Huonida.
Can you send me a private message for more information.

Jackson926
Title: Re: NZ query about John Arthur Bennett b1873 Kings Co Ireland s/o John and Florence
Post by: jackson926 on Thursday 08 August 13 02:50 BST (UK)
Bobi.com -Thanks for responding to my personal message.  As a  new member I and am unable to reply to your PM until I have  posted three times.  My grandfather was Albert Godfrey Bennett, born December 24, 1876 in Templemore, County Tipperary, Ireland.  He was the son of John Bennett and Florence Emma Matear and he had three siblings - John Arthur Bennett, Frances Bennett and Huonida Bennett.  It is my understanding that John Arthur Bennett was born in Ireland in 1873 and that sometime before 1911 he emigrated to Australia.  Albert Godfrey died in 1926 and his obituary listed him as having a brother in Australia.  Does this confirm any information you have on your grandfather?
Title: Re: NZ query about John Arthur Bennett b1873 Kings Co Ireland s/o John and Florence
Post by: Bobi.com on Thursday 08 August 13 19:40 BST (UK)
Absolutely !!
I am so glad you have gotten back to me.
Yes. One and the same. I was able to get back that far, but then hit a wall.
I have much information and some photos I am willing to share with you Jackson926.
Please contact me again

Bobi

Title: Re: NZ query about John Arthur Bennett b1873 Kings Co Ireland s/o John and Florence
Post by: jackson926 on Friday 09 August 13 02:02 BST (UK)
Bobi, hello again.  I guess were related!  This is my third posting so I will now be able to receive and send private messages.  I also have photos and lots of information I can share with you.  Can you send me a private message with an email address so I will know how to contact you.  Oddly enough, I will be traveling to Ireland in October and one of the places I'm planning to visit is Tipperary.  Our shared information might help in discovering more about the Bennett Family.  Looking forward to hearing from you!

Jackson9/26
Title: Re: NZ query about John Arthur Bennett b1873 Kings Co Ireland s/o John and Florence
Post by: rchirst46 on Monday 10 March 14 22:19 GMT (UK)
Hi just wanted to say hello, I have traced the Hirst line for Imeon Hirst Bowerbank, have also added the Matear, Bennett and Harber family to my tree.

Cheers Rod