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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Glamorganshire Lookup Requests => Glamorganshire => Wales => Glamorganshire Completed Lookups => Topic started by: etrotte on Tuesday 11 June 13 07:43 BST (UK)
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I have found 2 of my ancestors in the FreeBMD Death Index. I'm hoping to get more information on their deaths, w/o having to order their death certificates. Any ideas on how I can get a copy of their death records?
Here is their information in the index:
1) Frederick George Graves
Born: 1871
Death registration: Apr-May-Jun 1904; Cardiff, Glamorganshire; Vol 11a, page 163
2) Mary Ann Graves (nee Weeks)
Born: 1865
Death registration: Apr-May-Jun 1900; Cardiff, Glamorganshire; Vol 11a, page 210
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Not sure what info you are hoping to find, without buying the certs.
Maybe you are thinking of burial records? But to stand a chance of finding those you need to know WHERE they died for starters!
But when it comes to name of informant, cause of death etc, you need to buy the certs. There is no other way.
Have you looked for Wills for them? That would give a place of death, in the probate index.
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Just checked Probate index , no sign of either.
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Your profile doesn't say where you live?
But Death Certificates in England & Wales offer much less information than those (for example) in Australia & Scotland.
See here for an example:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_digitalassets/@dg/@en/documents/digitalasset/dg_176222.pdf
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Thanks for checking the probate index. I'm not surprised they're not there, as I strongly suspect they were quite poor.
I was mainly interested in cause of death, as they both died when they were relatively young (33, 34), but I was also hoping to find further confirmation around their family relationships (i.e., name of spouse, children). Ordering through Ancestry.com, and including shipping to Canada, each certificate costs CAD$47, which is expensive for a single document.
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Cheaper to order direct from the GRO
www.gro.gov.uk
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Good to know. Thanks for posting the sample KGarrad
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Lizbd,
That was going to be my next question! I'll go directly to the GRO then.
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Ordering through Ancestry.com, and including shipping to Canada, each certificate costs CAD$47, which is expensive for a single document.
NEVER order through Ancestry, or any other 3rd party!
The place to order is GRO (General Register Office):
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
Cost is £9.25 each. (about CAD$15)
EDIT: Snap, Liz!
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If I've found them in the index, where do I find the GRO index reference number??
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Its the volume and page, that you have quoted in your first post
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Thanks so much, both of you. I'm new to Wales records, so I'm much appreciative
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To be pedantic (and the GRO probably will be!), the GRO Index Reference consists of:
Year
Quarter
Registration District
Volume No
Page No
You can still order certificates without all these items, but that will involve a search, and will take longer.
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It's all good. I successfully ordered the death certificates through the GRO. Thanks
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Bit late now sorry but if they were buried in one of the Cardiff council cemeteries (as opposed to a church or chapel), then you can get information from Cardiff council... http://www.cardiff.gov.uk/content.asp?nav=2867,2903,5556&parent_directory_id=2865
The ones you are looking for are possibly a bit too early, but they have computerised records of all burials from 1912 according to the website, though they are working backwards and were in 1909 the last time I asked a few months ago.
If computerised, they will give you - free - details of the burial and anyone else buried with them (I've found a great many family members this way). They will give you a plot number and a plan to see the location of the grave.
It may well be worth you asking, you never know they may be back as early as 1904 now.
You can email them at thornhillreception[AT]cardiff.gov.uk and give them the name, age, and quarter of death. It's an amazing service.
Deirdre
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I've found Frederick in the 1881 (with family), 1891 and 1901 censuses, if you want that info?
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Deirdre784,
I just sent an email to Cardiff council, as suggested. I'll let you know if they find anything. Thanks for this!
Also, I did find the 1881, 1891 and 1901 census records for his family already, but thank you so much for searching for me.
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That's good news, they're usually very quick so you'll probably get a reply in the next day or two. I should have said it won't give cause of death though.