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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Tipperary => Topic started by: Kimberleyxx on Monday 10 June 13 13:27 BST (UK)
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im looking for any links related to any of the keeshan/keechan family..
Im related to a michael keechan born * roscrea and he has a brother called * keechan & a sister called *?not known of the first name..his dad was called james aswell and his mom was called annie he had an uncle from annie called michael.. if you have any information i would be greatful my email address is *
Thanks
Kimberley
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Hello Kimberley and welcome :)
Family Search has civil births/marriages and deaths indexes and there are these three births around the time you state: Keeshan births (https://familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&query=%2Bsurname%3Akeeshan~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Aroscrea~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1930-1940~&collection_id=1408347)
Do you think these may be your family?
A word of warning, you should not post the names of any people who may still be living.
regards
heywood
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Looking at Michael's year of birth and a likely wedding though, they may not be right.
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I know i have looked on that website before and things dont add up obviously with him being born in 1933 it wouldnt but im not sure if there had been a change to that when he came over to england at a young age & oh im sorry i didnt realise that i cant edit the post to remove his name now but im unsure if the others are still alive..
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You should be able to edit by clicking the modify button on your post but a moderator will help you I'm sure.
What are you looking for? Is it past history of the family?
Have you looked at the Irish censuses of 1901 and 1911? http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/
Do you have his father's name from a marriage certificate or is he still alive?
Are you sure re Roscrea - you have also posted on the Limerick board.
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Moderator note : names of possible living people removed
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Yeah his uncle came from limerick thats why i posted in there im just trying with every area and every website :(!
his mom passed away at a young age and he left his dad when he came over so i am unsure what his dads age would be..
& i have looked on that website but i cant find my grandad anywhere, but everyone keeps saying that over the years its been miss transcripted (sorry for spelling)..
& also was just wondering i have purchased a birth certificate on someone but i am un able to read the certificate is there anything i can do about that or not?
sorry for all the questions , but thankyou so much for the replies
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Annie Donohue was married to Thomas Fitzgerald early 1900s, they lived for a while in Roscrea. I am related to both of the above. Annie had 2 sons and a daughter for Thomas but also later had 2 sons for a Keeshan man. I have some information but am also looking to find out more if you wish to message me. John.
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Welcome to RootsChat, John :)
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Annie Donohue was married to Thomas Fitzgerald early 1900s, they lived for a while in Roscrea. I am related to both of the above. Annie had 2 sons....
Marriage 2 May 1910 at Templetouhy RC Church, near Templemore.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1910/09984/5631097.pdf
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6421717
Birth records-
John Fitzgerald born 28 January 1911 - Roscrea
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1911/01539/1623241.pdf
Thomas Fitzgerald born 6 July 1912 - Roscrea
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1912/01481/1603008.pdf
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Hi JC111
Possibly the birth of one of Annie’s sons named Daniel, with Annie named as Johanna.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01430/1586607.pdf
Regards
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Those birth details do not match with the previous records found re Fitzgerald.
Marriage - 1905 - Daniel Keeshan, Tailor and Johanna Ryan, widow - father Martin Donohoe
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1905/10175/5702265.pdf
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1911 - Thomas and Annie Fitzgerald, Roscrea
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Roscrea/Limerick_Street/824391/
1911 - Daniel and Johanna Keeshan
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Templemore_Urban/George_Street/827719/
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Thomas Fitzgerald's father John (at reply #11) died on 21 April 1915 aged 79 yrs. He was an army pensioner, formerly in the 17th Foot. His widow Fannie was the informant.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1915/05272/4463661.pdf
Fannie died the following year (25 March 1916) at the Union Infirmary, Roscrea aged 70 yrs.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1916/05243/4453007.pdf
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Perhaps it would be best for John to come back and confirm any of the records.
There are deaths for Annie Fitzgerald - - 1950, Roscrea
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1950/04516/4188728.pdf
And Thomas Fitzgerald - 1962
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1962/04309/4111382.pdf
These would not fit with later Keeshan births .
Maybe this is the wrong Fitzgerald family.
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Hi. I am also looking for any info on the Keeshan Roscrea brothers. I'm related to them through their mother Annie Donohue. Annie was first married to Fitzgerald and had children. Trying to find Annie's burial place also where did the Keeshan brothers live. Cheers JC.
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Thanks for the welcome. Still learning my way around rootschat so excuse any errors. I will get eventually get there, thanks again.
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Thanks moderator. The marriage of Annie and Thomas (my great grandparents) is correct and even though I had that previously I appreciate your help and effort. Thomas Fitzgerald born 1912 is their son and I believe is buried in Penrhys Cemetery Glamorgan where his Aunt Bridget Fitzgerald (died 1949) and husband Henry George Chainey are also buried. I have traced some info on Henry and Bridget's children. Everyday is an opportunity to learn.
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I don't know how to edit yet so please note that Annie Donohue and Thomas fitzgerald son of John and Francis Fanny Ryan are my great grandparents not great great as I typed in previous post (amended). I'm searching for where the Keeshan boys Michael and James lived and died. They were Annie's sons after it seems a break up with her husband Thomas. James Keeshan was the boys father. My late Father said he heard they joined a circus maybe in the UK? Cheers all that are helping out. I'm searching other sites etc and will post anything of relevance and hopefully adhere to the rules.
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Thomas Fitzgerald's father John (at reply #11) died on 21 April 1915 aged 79 yrs. He was an army pensioner, formerly in the 17th Foot. His widow Fannie was the informant.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1915/05272/4463661.pdf
Fannie died the following year (25 March 1916) at the Union Infirmary, Roscrea aged 70 yrs.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1916/05243/4453007.pdf
Thank you, confirming these records are of my GG Grandparents.
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I don’t quite follow this but..
Annie shows as ‘married’ on her death, however her address is different to Thomas’.
Do you have any information re the Keeshans - approximate years of birth etc.
As Annie Fitzgerald died in Roscrea, you would imagine that the boys would be born in that area.
Have you considered this James?
1911 - with mother Mary, a widow, and siblings.
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Roscrea/Limerick_Street/824346/
1901 shows Mary’s husband to be Michael. The family’s origins are Queen’s County.
When Mary dies in 1919, the informant is ‘J Keeshan’, son.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1919/05150/4419882.pdf
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Hi. One Keeshan brother was born in Roscrea 1929 the other in Nenagh 1933. I have found their records on familysearch site. Their Christian names were Michael and James. I heard from my own late grandmother (Annie's Daughter) that her mother Annie Donohue had died tragically as a result of being struck with a bottle over her head by another woman. I have trjed to find out more but nothing so far. I also heard that Annie was quite young when she died so for now I'm ruling out some findings of a same named lady who was in her 60's. Please note that it is likely that Annie was separated from her husband T Fitzgerald at time of death. She may have been with James Keeshan the father of her last two boys? Annie was from a travelling family and maybe went back to them? Many questions. Thanks for your help.
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Could the family story have got twisted out of shape?
There is a report in the Irish Press Dec 17 1935 at Dublin District Court yesterday of a Annie Fitzgerald of no fixed abode sentenced to six months with hard labour for striking Mollie Flynn of no fixed abode on the head with a bottle.
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Hi. No, not twisted because the incident was witnessed by the daughter of Annie and told to me personally some years ago. I also know the name of the assailant and it is not as you mention. I do not wish to name the person, I'm sure you will understand why.. Annie's husband Thomas was a soldier like his Father John Fitzgerald. Thanks for sharing that information.
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Hi. One Keeshan brother was born in Roscrea 1929 the other in Nenagh 1933. I have found their records on familysearch site. Their Christian names were Michael and James.
I see a birth in 1929 in Nenagh ( not Roscrea) for James with mmn Donohue
There is also Michael ‘Keesham’ b 1933 but no mother’s name in the indexes.
Thomas Fitzgerald was a labourer on his chikdren’s birth certificates. Did he join the British Army later?
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Hi. Yes Thomas joined army later, date unsure as yet. I fortunately have his photo in uniform as received from other source in my search. After marrying he and Annie lived with his parents in Limerick Road Roscrea census 1911. It seems he was in the Army from 1916 onward. His Father John was born in Athlone but married Francis Ryan when he was a soldier of the 7th foot in The Curragh camps and also Birr Army Barracks. John served overseas in India for certain and possibly Canada approx 1860/80 before ending up in Roscrea. I'd love to find a picture of Thomas's parents but it is unlikely. A picture of Annie would be great but again not expected. I found some pics of nieces and nephews of Thoma's. They were his sister Bridget's children who were raised in Ferndale Wales. Bridget was married to Henry George Chainey. I have this verified through my searches. A daughter of Bridget, Ethel Chainey married Alfred Petersen during the London blitz and they moved to Kalamazoo Michigan. I found her obituary with tributes and photos through her life. She helped in the founding of a church and raised a family. Some still reside in Kalamazoo. This info can be found by entering Ethel Petersen in Google search for anyone interested. It mentions her mother Bridget Fitzgerald from Roscrea and going to school in Ferndale. Her father Henry was a hewer in the coal mines in the Rhondda Valley and is buried with his wife in nearby Penrhys Cemetery.