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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Kent Lookup Requests => Kent => England => Kent Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: PrueM on Saturday 11 June 05 08:24 BST (UK)
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Hello all,
I've only just discovered my Kentish connections and am already stuck! My 3xgreat-grandmother was Caroline BIGG, born Eastchurch, Kent around 1828. From the 1841 census, I know that she and her family were living in Essex (West Ham) by 1841, where her father had a large market garden. The family at that time consisted of:
William BIGG (father) born c.1795
Lydia BIGG (mother) born c. 1800
William BIGG (son) born c. 1820
Henry BIGG (son) born c. 1825
Sarah BIGG (daughter) born c. 1825 (twins?)
Frances BIGG (daughter) born c. 1826
Caroline BIGG (daughter) born c. 1828
Sarah BIGG is interesting as she was married in Australia (Melbourne area) in 1853, to William WEST. They had two children, Lydia (1854) and William (1857) and then Sarah left Australia, and by 1861 was living with her two children in Stepney, along with Caroline BIGG and her daughter Caroline Berringer BIGG (illegitimate, as they said in those days). Caroline Berringer is my 2xgreat grandmother.
If anyone recognises this family, I would like to hear from you. I am keen to get further back than 1841, but have not been able to find anything on the IGI. In 1861 Lydia BIGG stated she was born in Lydd, Kent.
Cheers :)
Prue
Canberra, Australia
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Hi Prue
have replied to the msg you left on ancestry re same family - they are mine as well!!
Have got Bigg family back to 1710 on Sheppey - do get in touch
Teresa
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Just come across this link which may be of some help:-
www.sheppeyfamilyhistory.org.uk
Regards, Sue
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Thanks Sue - seems a bit quiet at the moment - will have to try and liven things up!!
Thanks Again
Tess
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Hi Prue,
There are Archdeaconry Court of Canterbury Wills for a Edward & Jeremiah BIGG of Minster, Sheppey that might be worth investigating
http://www.kentarchaeology.ac/ekwills_a/series/adci/adc_be.htm
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The IGI now has 2 baptisms in Dymchurch for children of William & Lydia:
Sarah Ann BIGGS 11 FEB 1823 Dymchurch
Ann BIGG 24 JUL 1818 Dymchurch
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Wow, thanks bearkat! Very nice of you to take the time to find this thread and let me know about these finds :)
Thanks also to Tess and Sue - I hope I thanked you personally at the time you responded, but just in case I didn't: Thank you!
Cheers
Prue :)
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Have just realised - the baptisms in Dymchurch were the girls' second baptisms! They were baptised about a week earlier back in Eastchurch, where they were born :) Lydia, their mother, was a Dymchurch girl, so presumably her family was still living back there in the 1820s :)
Thanks again bearkat :D
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Do you know Lydia's maiden name?
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I think we had a Lidia\Lydia Wincles from that area who married a bigg??
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Yep, I seem to remember that name. :D
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Lidia Wincles Claringbould born 1796 - dau of William Claringbould. Married William Bigg of Eastchurch in 1816
Children
William 1817
Ann Elizabeth 1818
Edward 1819
Henry 1821
Sarah Anne 1822
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Yep, that's the ones :) (Hi Tess! :D )
Lydia's parents were William Claringbould and Judith Wincles.
I've had a look at the 1841 census for Dymchurch and there are three or four WINCLES families living there. No Claringboulds, though.
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It's a long time since I've looked at this family so can't remember what you have??
Have you seen the Tithe award schedules?
http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Maps/DYM/02.htm
William WINKLES living in 1 of 3 cottages & gardens.
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Hi bearkat :)
I had not seen the Tithe award schedules before, so thank you for that link :)
I normally do trawl the usual sites every now and then for my families, but haven't done anything on the Wincles/Bigg/Claringbold line for a long time...I really should though, if only because I love their names! (especially the Wincles!)
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Hi Prue,
I know this was an old thread but wonder if you ever got any further with the origins of the Berringer name? One of my families is Barrenger (and every variant spelling you could imagine...) They travelled about quite a bit in Kent but I know some of them came from Sheppy. (I haven't yet managed to search those records as they're not on line but it is on my 'to do list' to visit the Kent record offices at some point in the not too distant future.)
I know that there were several 'illegitimate' children born to Barrenger women so I can't see why the men should be any different. I think we have been totally sold on the idea that there were not many children born out of wedlock because there was such a stigma attached to it but if you look throught the baptism registers you will see that it was not that unusual. How charitably this was viewed varies a lot and I have seen things that vary from the usual 'illegitimate' or 'base born' right through to the 'bastard born after [mother] laid down with [father]'! As a lone parent myself I often have to think 'there but for the grace...' and all that.
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Hi Sheena :)
No, I never did trace the Berenger connection - I'm pretty certain it must refer to the father of Caroline's daughter but who he was I have no idea. :-\
By the time Caroline junior was born, her mother was living either in West Ham or the Stepney area, so I'm guessing it's most likely that the father was from around there too. Could have been from Sheppey I suppose...
Prue :)
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Hi everyone, joined this discussion a bit late but here goes.
The Bigg family I have some information on is that of William and Mary. William was born in Eastchurch around 1806 and in 1841 he was a gardener living with his wife and three children in Nightingale Vale, Plumstead. His son, James Thomas (born Plumstead 1840) is the one I am interested in as he was my great grandfather. I do have quite a lot of information but am missing some relating to the children of James Thomas and Julia O'Keefe (paternal great grandparents). They were Mary, Amos, Martha (my grandmother) and Julia. Interestingly in the 1911 Census my great grandmother Julia says she had 11 children, 8 of whom died but I am having trouble tracking them down. Anything would be helpful!
Thanks - Honeybun
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Hi Honeybun :)
Nice to meet a relative! ;D We must be related at least two or three generations back from your William as I can't find him in my tree - who was his father, do you know?
It might be better to start a new topic for your family, I can't really help you with your lot but a new topic should bring lots of information your way.
Cheers
Prue
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Thanks PrueM
I haven't got back any further than 1841 Census for William as I was doing most of the work on James, so perhaps we may be distantly related there. I will post a new topic as you suggest.
Honeybun