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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Galway => Topic started by: DeFilippis78 on Saturday 08 June 13 21:10 BST (UK)
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Im looking for relatives of mine. Patrick Dillon married Delia Kelly around 1899 in Jersey City. Im not sure where Patrick is from (possibly Galway) Delia is from Roscommon or Ahascragh. Patrick was born around 1870 and arrived in the US in 1899 and lived in Jersey City. Delia was born around 1875, arrived in 1893 and also lived in JC. They had a daughter named Helen Dillon in JC
I dont know who Patricks parents are but I was told Delias parents are Michael Kelly and Ann Leonard.
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Im looking for relatives of mine. Patrick Dillon married Delia Kelly around 1899 in Jersey City. Im not sure where Patrick is from (possibly Galway) Delia is from Roscommon or Ahascragh. Patrick was born around 1870 and arrived in the US in 1899 and lived in Jersey City. Delia was born around 1875, arrived in 1893 and also lived in JC. They had a daughter named Helen Dillon in JC
I dont know who Patricks parents are but I was told Delias parents are Michael Kelly and Ann Leonard.
I also posted this in the Galway thread because the ship manifest says Roscommon but a distant relative says its Ahascragh so maybe the borders have changed?
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Hi There,
I'm wondering MIGHT this be the Dillon / Kelly marriage - different christian name for the wife though !
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FZPM-MVM
Presuming that Delia's parent's names are correct then here is her baptism
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FP96-2BZ
and some baptisms for siblings of hers
BROTHER JOHN https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGFJ-S2B
BROTHER THOMAS https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FR7N-S2R
SISTER HONOR https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FR7F-158
and a marriage of a brother Michael in Montana
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F37Q-KK1
Tara
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a t family search.org in ahascragh galway4th nov 1872 marriage of michael kelly son of michael kelly and bridget finnerty to anna leonard dtr of thomas leonard and honoria costello, civil registration district for marriage is ballinasloe vol 19 page 13. there is also this birth on the birth register for Bedelia kelly 1875 galway ,ireland vol 14 page 245 you would have to purchase the cert to see if its her.
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I have relatives that lived in the Ahascragh area and it is very near the Roscommon border although in Galway.
The river Suck is the main boundary between the counties in the area.
For some families the parish they lived in determined the county of allegiance regardless of civil border!
Possible marriage of Michael KELLY and Anne LEONARD (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FYSS-627) in Ballinasloe district in 1872
There was one Delia KELLY birth between 1872 and 1877 (https://familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Adelia~%20%2Bsurname%3Akelly~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Aballinasloe~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1872-1877~) however there were several births in Ballinasloe of Bridget KELLYs (https://familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Abridget~%20%2Bsurname%3Akelly~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Aballinasloe~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1872-1877~);
Delia was the pet name for Bridget.
Unfortunately without the mother’s maiden name to go on you can only break down this list further
by ruling out some by deaths or 1901 census records and buying the remainder to get the correct one.
Possible census return for Michael and Anne in 1901 (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Galway/Cloubrock/Gloon_Cannon_Dillon/1389747/) in Clonbrock.
There is a transcription error in the place name. The area is Clooncannon (Dillon), Dillon being the name of the local landlord.
By 1911, Anne is widowed and still in Clooncannon (Dillon) (Clonbrock, Galway) (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Galway/Clonbrock/Clooncannon__Dillon_/466663/).
She describes herself as married 38 years which ties in with the 1872 marriage.
She also states that she had 10 children of which 8 were still living.
There are 4 listed with her in 1911 and 5 in 1901 which leaves 3 other children unaccounted for.
I think there is a good chance that this is the correct family but obviously proof is required
DILLON was a popular name in the area and many Irish married people from close to their original homes
These are the results searching for Patrick DILLON (https://familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Apatrick~%20%2Bsurname%3Adillon~%20%2Brecord_country%3AIreland%20%2Bbirth_place%3Aballinasloe~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1869-1875~) from 1869 to 1875 in that area but you would need parents names for confirmation
Hope this start helps your searching.
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Editted to remove comment on duplication now that Sarah has merged the two topics ;)
Thanks Sarah It should avoid any confusion
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Hi DeFilippis78,
Welcome to Rootschat :)
I have just merged your two posts into one in Roscommon, We are able to move posts to different counties so if you find the research is no longer in Roscommon you can ask for the post to be moved.
To move a post just click on the "report to moderator" and tell us where you would like it moving.
Regards
Sarah :)
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Hi DeFilippis78,
Welcome to Rootschat :)
I have just merged your two posts into one in Roscommon, We are able to move posts to different counties so if you find the research is no longer in Roscommon you can ask for the post to be moved.
To move a post just click on the "report to moderator" and tell us where you would like it moving.
Regards
Sarah :)
Hi Sarah as mentioned above, the area is NOW Galway. It was originally Roscommon but there were border changes which makes the area in present day Galway County so maybe you should move it to the Galway county please
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I have relatives that lived in the Ahascragh area and it is very near the Roscommon border although in Galway.
The river Suck is the main boundary between the counties in the area.
For some families the parish they lived in determined the county of allegiance regardless of civil border!
Possible marriage of Michael KELLY and Anne LEONARD (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FYSS-627) in Ballinasloe district in 1872
There was one Delia KELLY birth between 1872 and 1877 (https://familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Adelia~%20%2Bsurname%3Akelly~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Aballinasloe~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1872-1877~) however there were several births in Ballinasloe of Bridget KELLYs (https://familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Abridget~%20%2Bsurname%3Akelly~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Aballinasloe~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1872-1877~);
Delia was the pet name for Bridget.
Unfortunately without the mother’s maiden name to go on you can only break down this list further
by ruling out some by deaths or 1901 census records and buying the remainder to get the correct one.
Possible census return for Michael and Anne in 1901 (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Galway/Cloubrock/Gloon_Cannon_Dillon/1389747/) in Clonbrock.
There is a transcription error in the place name. The area is Clooncannon (Dillon), Dillon being the name of the local landlord.
By 1911, Anne is widowed and still in Clooncannon (Dillon) (Clonbrock, Galway) (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Galway/Clonbrock/Clooncannon__Dillon_/466663/).
She describes herself as married 38 years which ties in with the 1872 marriage.
She also states that she had 10 children of which 8 were still living.
There are 4 listed with her in 1911 and 5 in 1901 which leaves 3 other children unaccounted for.
I think there is a good chance that this is the correct family but obviously proof is required
DILLON was a popular name in the area and many Irish married people from close to their original homes
These are the results searching for Patrick DILLON (https://familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Apatrick~%20%2Bsurname%3Adillon~%20%2Brecord_country%3AIreland%20%2Bbirth_place%3Aballinasloe~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1869-1875~) from 1869 to 1875 in that area but you would need parents names for confirmation
Hope this start helps your searching.
Thank you everybody for the links provided. I believe they are accurate according to some distant relatives I talked too. I am very confused with all the names of the area being tossed around....ahascragh, ballinsloe, clooncannon, clonbrock....if I wanted to visit where actually would I be going?
Delia was born to Michael Kelly and Ann Leonard. Ive been told they all are from ahascragh. She had several siblings but Im positive there was a Catherine, Thomas and Nora. Im still not finding much on Patrick Dillon and will look for naturalization records
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Incase it helps the search - according to the 1900 Jersey City Ward 5, Hudson, New Jersey.
Patrick Dillon 30 Born Jan 1870. Imm 1899.
Deallia Dillon 25 Born Nov 1874. Imm 1893.
Thomas Kelley 26 Born Sept 1873. Brother. Imm 1896.
Nora Kelley 22 Born Sept 1877. Sister. Imm 1896.
1920 census says Patrick was naturalized in 1917.
Sandra
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Patrick Dillon is my grandfathers brother. He was born in Killure near Ahascragh which is close to Ballinasloe, County Galway. He emigrated to New Jersey with two of his brothers. We have some information about his brothers but none about Patrick once he arrived in America. I can give you some information about the family background in Ireland. Would you be able to fill in details of his family in America.
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Sorry, just noticed you requested further info of the family in America. 1910 Sussex Street. Jersey City Ward 1, Hudson, New Jersey.
Patrick Dillon 42 Born Ireland. Immigrated 1900. Marriage 1 for 10 years. Foreman. Express Co.
Delia Dillon 35 Had 6 children and 6 survive.
Chas Dillon 9 Annie Dillon 8
Wm Dillon 6 Nora A Dillon 4
Joseph Dillon 3 Thomas Dillon 10 months.
Sandra
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Jersey City Ward 5, Hudson, New Jersey 1920 (Brunswick Street - same as Christopher and Delia)
Patrick Dillon 50 Immigrated 1891. 1917 NA. Labourer. Soap Factory.
Delia Dillon 45 Immigtrated 1893. 1917 NA.
Charles Dillon 19 Labourer. Cake Factory.
Anna Dillon 18 Clerk. Drug Co.
Joseph Dillon 12
Thomas Dillon 10
Helen Dillon 8
Sandra
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Thanks Sandra. Kathleen, you know how we were talking about whether Christopher and Thomas Dillon were the 2 brothers that left Ireland with Patrick? Well Thomas and Christopher lived on Sussex St in Jersey City. Here , Patrick also lives on Sussex. Its safe to say all 3 must be brothers because they live on the same street. Jersey City is one of the biggest, if not thee biggest city in NJ. Its beyond coincidence all 3 live on the same street and NOT be related
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If only I can find the ship manifest for Patrick. Each census has him coming a different year and the name is just too popular to nail down which one is him.
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Yes, frustrating, especially when the earlier passenger lists give little information as well.
Was coming back to Thomas Dillon who I had noticed on Sussex Street in 1900 with Christopher and Bridget/Delia and in 1910 right next door to each other.
1920 they are on following pages of the census and 1930 Thomas and Christopher both on Union Street - same census page.
Dillon - Harney - http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~harney2/america/NJ.htm
Sandra
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Me and another poster on here were wondering if we were related. She is related to Christopher and Thomas Dillon. I am related to Patrick Dillon. Chris and Tom had an older brother named Patrick that the family lost track of. so we were trying to find clues to see if all 3 were brothers. We wanted to know if her Patrick is my Patrick ha ha!Seeing all 3 live on the same street or a street over is promising :)
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Regarding the earlier post I put about the Kellys I am confused. The family claims she is from Ahascragh but the records posted here say Clooncannon. Is that the same area? The first baptism record fro Delia someone posted that has the right names of her parents says Mount Bellew. I know families can move but I was wondering everyones input. All the documents everyone provided here seem to match, right down to Delias parents and siblings but now I have 3 towns....Ahascragh, Clooncannon and Mount Bellow
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It will probably depend on where the reference is that you are looking at
e.g.
Mountbellew on a Civil Record refers to a large area that includes Cloncannon and Ahascragh
Ahascragh is a town and parish
Cloncannon (with various spellings and additions of family names) is situated in a central part of this parish in the Barony of Cloonmacnoon. It is about 2 miles North of Ahascragh.
So Cloncannon is a specific address, Ahascragh a wider one of the parish and Mountbellow a larger one of a civil boundary!
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Oh I see now! The links for these records are further back in this post. All the baptismal records say Ahascragh except one says Mount Bellow. But then their 1901 and 1911 censuses specifically say Cloncannon Dillon. So Im assuming now Mount Bellow was a civil record, the others are church and the census is where they actually lived. But if i were to go and visit the ACTUAL place they lived, that would be Cloncannon Dillon right? Im just trying to figure out where I would visit now that i know the area :D
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Cloncannonn Dillon would be the address of their homeplace
This is a townland which means it is a number of houses scattered over an area rather than located together LINK to Ordnance Survey Map of area (http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,578196,741974,4,10)
In this site you can look at old maps of the same area by using the features on the right hand side to change between 2005, 2000, 1995 and historic maps; this gives a good feel for the changes in an area over time!