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Hi
I am happy to do any simple parish records look-ups at the West Sussex RO. Please post your requests here.
Jan ;)
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Hi,
Thanks for the offer.
I am looking for information on some members of the Quinnell/Quesnell family christened in Kirdford.
Could you check the following baptismal records for any information in addition to parent's names (James and Hannah).
2-8-1818 Elisha
3-17-1822 Charlotte
3-17-1822 Susanna -Twins??
9-21-1823 Martha
Also looking for possible burial record for the Elijah Quinnell born 1815 in Surrey. Have not been able to nail down any further record of him so I'm wondering if he died young possibly in Kirdford
Jann
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Hi Jann
I've noted those down and will look them up soon.
Jan ;)
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Hi Jan, I have been trying to find the parents of Henry Gander born about 1580 for a long time. He married Annis Hall on 5/10/1607 in Hurstpierpoint. Their children were Jane 1607 and Richard 1611 in Hurstpierpoint. Any help would be appreciated. Poppyann
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Hi Poppyann
You just missed my going today! I'll note Henry down and check for you, but don't hold out much hope as the Hurstpierpoint registers are on the IGI and there is no sign of a baptism for him. There is a possible in 1583 in Walberton father Richard - he is said to die in 1590 but I will check that out for you.
Jan ;)
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Jann
Here is what I found
Baptisms
Occupation is Farmer for Elisha, Charlotte and Susanna, labourer for Martha.
Abode is Kirdford except for Martha when it is 'from Plaistow'.
There is no mention of Charlotte and Susanna being twins.
There were also the following who may connect
Edward 13 Mar 1808
Mary 29 Jul 1810
Jane 24 Jan 1813
William 31 Mar 1816
George 26 Mar 1820
All children of Edward and Sarah Quennell, labourer of Kirdford
Marriage
William Quennell to Jane Phillips 3 Sep 1835
Burials
Nothing for Elijah - given they baptise their next child Elisha I wonder if Elijah was buried somewhere between Surrey and Kirdford?
Martha Quennel age 2 months from Plaistow buried Kirdford 30 Sep 1823
I also found
Sarah Quennell age 19 buried Kirdfrd 3 Dec 1819
Hope this is of some help
Jan ;)
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Hi Jan,
Thanks much - for going the extra mile! I believe you've solved my question about whatever happened to Sarah Quinnell, James and Hannah's oldest child, born in Surrey in 1800. It seems likely she is the 19 year old Sarah buried in Kirdford in 1819.
In re: Charlotte/Susanna. IGI has a christening for a Charlotte Quinnell -parents James and Hannah- taking place in Lugarshall on 5 Aug. 1821. I know Lugarshall is near Kirdford so I'm wondering if James and Hannah had a 2nd christening for Charlotte in March 1822 in Kirdford but I can't think of why they would have done that. Any ideas??
Thanks again,
Jann
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Hi Jann
Next time I go I'll check the Lurgashall baptism for Charlotte in case there is anything illuminating. It could be a private baptism as she wasn't expected to live, then she was baptised again in Kirdford the next year. The entry should say.
Glad the mystery of Sarah looks as if it's solved, even if Elijah isn't. I'll check for a burial for him in Lurgashall.
Jan ;)
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Hi Jan, many thanks. It is thought that Henry might have been Gandier and was a Hugenout and came to England. This is just a thought. Poppyann
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Hi,
thank you for the offer :)
I have managed to extract a glimpse of info. online -
1827 April.26 William WHITEING, wife Ann and children William 3y, Hannah 2yr and James 11 m; confirmed. Reigate, Sry
I have no idea what it relates to though. Maybe a removal order/application for relief?
Any help would be very much appreciated. Thankyou in advance
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Hi Mandy
Reigate is in Surrey not West Sussex, so unless you know a place in Sussex where this family definitely lived, I'm afraid I won't be able to look-up any parish baptisms, marriages or burials for them. Perhaps you could try posting your snippet on the Surrey Board, someone there may be able to help. If you do post in Surrey it would be a good idea to post anything else you know about them as well (and here if you have any Sussex sightings of them).
Jan;)
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Hi Jan, I was a bit confused too as the info is in the Sussex record book yet they lived in Surrey. They definitely lived in Slaugham at some point; the father was born there. They married there too. The children (& later ones) seem to have been born in Reigate yet they all children (inc. the ones named in the record) were baptised in Staplefield (as Non Conformists). It seems they lived in Reigate but kept popping back to the Slaugham area to be baptised. I wondered if the record is suggesting they return to Slaugham?
I do already have all the info. re births, marriages etc. It was just this record that I couldn't make out. I did post this in with the Sussex posts, but somebody suggested I contact you.
Many thanks,
Amanda
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Hi Jan, I was a bit confused too as the info is in the Sussex record book yet they lived in Surrey. They definitely lived in Slaugham at some point; the father was born there. They married there too. The children (& later ones) seem to have been born in Reigate yet they all children (inc. the ones named in the record) were baptised in Staplefield (as Non Conformists). It seems they lived in Reigate but kept popping back to the Slaugham area to be baptised. I wondered if the record is suggesting they return to Slaugham?
I do already have all the info. re births, marriages etc. It was just this record that I couldn't make out. I did post this in with the Sussex posts, but somebody suggested I contact you.
Many thanks,
Amanda
I can help with this one... The family were subject to a Quarter Sessions Removal Order from SLAUGHAM being sent back to Reigate.
I'm guessing that because the family had spent more time in Surrey and the children were born there that that was judged to be their 'home' parish.
Suey
ps I have the Mid Sussex Poor Law Records Book 1601-1835
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Thankyou :) :) :)
Do you happen to know why families would be removed anyway?
Thank you again
Kind regards, Mandy
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Hi Mandy
That's good that Suey has been able to clear it up for you. Families could be removed to their home parish if they fell on hard times or were likely to do so and would thus be needing parish relief see
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/poorlaws/oldpoorlaw.shtml#Settlement
Jan
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It's really helped. Thank you Suey (sorry I called you Jan!) and thank you Jan! Much appreciated :)
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Hi Poppyann
I tried to check the Hurstpierpoint registers but they were pretty illegible which with the fact that I am not very good with early writing and there weren't any transcripts available for that time frame meant I found nothing - sorry. I did at least manage to exclude the Henry Gander baptised in Walberton 4 Dec 1585 son of Richard, as there is a burial on 30th June 1590 of 'Henry Gander sonne of Richard'.
Jan ;)
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Hi Jann
The only extra information on the transcript Lurgashall baptism for Charlotte is occupation Labourer - I did mean to check the fiche as well in case there was extra there but forgot, will look another time.
No burial for Elijah born c1815 in Lurgashall.
I noted down this in case she is one of yours
Mary Quenell buried Lurgashall 23 May 1773
Jan ;)
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Hi Jan, thank you for the kind offer. I hope this is simple:
James LITTLEWORTH (b 1891/92) "married 4 times and had 31 children", I am descended from Wife #4 and have been trying to research the children/marriages of James.
Wife #1: James LITTLEWORTH "married" someone during his army career and had at 3-6 children with her. One of the children was born in 1816 and was still alive in 1866. There is no record of the wife or other children after the sinking of the Boadicea in 1816. James survived. Not sure how to track down dead/living passengers from that disaster. Still searching for this one... this one you cannot help me with :)
Wife #2: James LITTLEWORTH married Sarah Sadler (d. of James Sadler and Jane, Egdean Parish) in 1819 (Fittleworth, Sussex, England), they had two children that I know of: William LITTLEWORTH (b:1820, d:1820), and Mary LITTLEWORTH (b:1821, d:1825). James was away with the army, and Sarah may or may not have gone with him at times. According to my documents, James had 2-8 children with her after they met. They lived in Petworth according to pension documents. This is where I could use a hand trying to find lost children. Or did she die and they had no more than 2?
Wife #3: James LITTLEWORTH married someone after? Wife #2 and before Wife #4. They had 3-12 children, likely in Canada and USA.
Wife #4: James LITTLEWORTH "married" Marguerite LANGLOIS abt. 1838 in Upper Canada. They had 14 children. I have fully documented this lot.
Any Help is a godsend :)
Mark
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Hi Mark
I'll see what I can do next time I go, hopefully Thursday next.
Cheers Jan ;)
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Hi Janan,
Mary Pattenden was born in Withyham, Sussex in 1828. She married three times:
1) Henry Kenward, who died young
2) William Dyer, - (who I am unable to find a Birth or Death for).
3) George Holman.
My link is through her second Marriage to William Dyer. Their son, my G/G/Grandfather, (also William Dyer) was born in Lingfield, Surrey in July 1847.
Mary and William Dyer, (Junior) are in East Grinstead, Sussex on the 1851 Census, with George Holman as a Lodger. But what happened to William Dyer, Senior?
Mary Dyer later married George Holman, after the birth of at least one child. They went on to have quite a few more...
But what happened to William Dyer, - husband No 2?
Hoping that you can help!
Romilly.
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Hi Romilly
Do you have the marriage certificate for Mary and William? That should give his age and father's name so would help a lot. They married in the Godstone registration area so maybe Lingfield church? There is a possible death for a William Dyer registered in Godstone in 1852 - have you discounted that?
Does the birth certificate for 1847 give an occupation for the elder William?
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Hi sillgen,
Yes, I have that Cert. (will try to attach a snippet from it)
It just says, 'full age' for both William and Mary. Mary is a Widow & William a Batchelor.
William Dyer's father is also William Dyer, Occupation: 'Labourer'. Mary's father is William Pattenden. Both William and Mary resident in Horne.
William Dyer, (Junior) is born in Lingfield in July 1847.
I think that the Godstone 1852 Death didn't fit in some way... (I shall have to check back on my notes on this branch).
Mary Dyer didn't Marry George Holman until 1855, (in East Grinstead, Sussex). If the 1852 Death was the right one, - it seems strange that they didn't marry earlier, - especially as they had children by 1855:
Ann Dyer baptised on 30 May 1852
Father George Holman
Mother Mary Dyer
Notes A baseborn child of Mary wife of William DYER living in adultery with George HOLMAN
This is at East Grinstead, St Swithun, so William may not be dead in 1852.
Romilly.
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Hi Romilly
I'll see if I can find anything
Jan ;)
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Many thanks Jan, - much appreciated.
Cheers, Romilly.
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Hi there, i am trying to find parents of JOHN BLAKE born old sarum, wilts 1792 and he died in chichester in 1864. would his death cert. show his parents names? and if so, would you be able to help me???? thank you
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See
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=660679.0;topicseen for more info re this family.
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Thanks for your reply,as john was born in old sarum,wilts i may have to visit and search personally,nice part of country for a visit.how much info do you need to ask records office to search?
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Hi Jan,
I live across the big pond so don't know much about Sussex geography. I'm not sure whether Lewes Sussex would be in West Sussex. If it is, would you please check for an Elizabeth Eades who died there in the first quarter of 1913. According to census records she was born in 1829 but not in Sussex.
Thank you for the offer for look-ups. Regards, Nan
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Hi Nan,
Lewes is East Sussex - the county town and it has its own record office though currently it is moving and therefore closed. You might be best starting a separate topic as Chris in 1066 has a lot of Lewes records and may be able to help. The registration district covers a lot of villages though, not just Lewes itself. You may need to get the death certificate to see exactly where she died before you can find a burial. Neither will give much info to help with her birth place though, unless you are very lucky. Where was she in 1911?
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Hi There
found these burials in the Lews Churchyards
St John Sub castro churchyard had these burials
1895 Mar 30 Eade m Henry 74 OTP
1903 Dec 22 Eades m Benjamin 22 OTP
1927 Jan 26 Eades m Benjamin 79 OTP 21 New Rd
1931 Aug 8 Eades f Ann Matilda 80 Southover 26 Priory St
1878 Nov 16 Eads f Edith 4 OTP
These were in the Southover Burial register
Sep 27 1905 Anne maria Eade 32 Southover
Jan 7 1913 James William Eade 3 hours Southover
Jan 13 1915 Louisa Eade 43 Southover 13
Aug 23 1940 Olivia Rose Eade 62 Lewes 13
Oct 20 1947 George William Eade 76 Southover 87
Theses were in All Saints
1893 June 26 Eade Walter Henry 4
1908 December 29 Eade William Edgar 37 47 Lancaster Street
South Malling had ZERO entries
St Annes without also had ZERO entries
Chris in 1066
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Hi Elaine
You will have to order John Blake's death certficate
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
It won't give his parents but will tell you where he died and the informant may be a relative.
This site is helpful as to what to expect on English and Welsh certificates
http://www.dixons.clara.co.uk/Certificates/indexbd.htm
Once you know where he died I might be able to find a burial for you - Chichester District covers a lot of parishes so it would be tricky to search without some idea of area.
Jan ;)
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Thank you Sillgen and Chris in 1066 for your help. Unfortunately I don't see Elizabeth or other immediate family members in the list provided by Chris. I went back through records I do have and am now not convinced that my Elizabeth died in Lews, Sussex. It's back to 1871. It is definite that at that time she was in Hertfordshire with her daughter, a teacher. I know her husband died in 1862. I'll have to see if she remarried after 1871.
Your efforts on my behalf are greatly appreciated,
Nan
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Hi
I haven't forgotten outstanding requests and will do them and any others that appear at some point in the near future.
Jan ;)
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Hi Jan, I am still looking for the parents of Henry Gander born about 1576 possibly in Hurstpierpoint. He married Annis? Hall 5/10/1607 in Hurstpierpoint. He had 2 children both in Hurstpierpoint. Jane 1607 and Richard 1611. Any help that you could find for me would be greatly appreciated. Regards Poppyann
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Sorry Jan, it should have been 10/5/1607. Regards Poppyann
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Hi
I'm looking for a marriage about 1830 for Richard Dutton baptized about 1795 St Botolph Aldgate to a woman in Worthing Sussex, along with baptisms for their children: Louisa 1831, Elizabeth 1833, and perhaps Mary 1835.
It appears that Worthing folks are in the Broadwater records until a point in the early 1800s, and the fiches at West Sussex appear to begin in the 1860s. So there's a gap, and those are the records that are of interest.
I hope you can help clarify if the records exist, and if they do, whether there's any info on our Duttons.
Thanks,
Judy
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The Sussex pre 1837 marriage index does not have a marriage for Richard Dutton at any time so it looks as if they married outside Sussex.
There is a burial at St Andrew, Hove for Richard Dutton age 75 in June 1877 on the sfhg database. Can't see baptisms for those girls either.
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Thanks for the time to check. Disappointing as the girls told the census takers they were born in Worthing.
Judy
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I see you already had this information.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=664069.msg5094316#msg5094316
Duplicate request posts can cause confusion. I was going to ask for the census references but will move to the other post.
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Hi Judy
I will have a look for those baptisms for you
Jan ;)
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Hi Poppyann
I've already looked for your Henry see page 2 of this thread
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=649623.10
for my non-results :D
Jan ;)
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I'm locking this thread until I've done the outstanding requests, I'll post results here and will then start a new thread for any further requests.
Cheers
Jan ;)
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Judy
I checked Broadwater baptisms 1830-38 but no Dutton (or Knight) baptisms for Louisa, Elizabeth or Mary. This could mean they were not baptised, were baptised much later than expected or were baptised non-conformist.
Sorry I haven't been able to help
Jan ;)
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Mark
Very little Littleworth actvity in Fittleworth (none I could see in Petworth) just the marriage, baptism of William and burial of William and Mary. I didn't see a burial for Sarah in the 1820's. Do you know roughly when James would have remarried for the 3rd time?
In case you don't have full details
3 May 1819
James Littleworth of Fittleworth and Sarah Sadler of Fittleworth witnesses Solomon Wells and Esther Hawkins all above made their mark plus Geo Piper clerk
I've just realised I didn't notice what if anything it said for James' condition at marriage - will check that for you at some point
Baptism Jan 2nd 1820 William son of James and Sarah Littleworth abode Fittleworth occupation Labourer
Burial Feb 16th 1820 William son of James and Sarah Littleworth 2m
Burial Oct 31 1825 Mary Ann daughter of James and Sarah Littleworth 4yrs
All at Fittleworth
Egdean Baptisms
16 Sep 1798 Sarah dau of James and Jane Sadler
April 10 1811 Jane base born dau of Sarah Sadler
Egdean Burial
Aug 11 1811 Jane Base born dau of Sarah Sadler - poor Sarah all 3 of her known children died :'(
Jan ;)
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Romilly
I still have William Dyer in my notebook to see if I can find an East Grinstead burial, sorry I didn't have time today
Jan ;)
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Any new requests please post on my new thread here
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=665402.new#new
Cheers
Jan ;)
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Hello Janan
We are looking for the parents of John Lashmar born about 1734 in west Grinstead. Married Hannah Borer/Borrer in 1759 in Shipley. Had 5 children all born in West Grinstead. John died 1799.
All help very gratefully received.
Anne
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Hi Anne
Welcome to Rootschat :D
If you wouldn't mind reposting your request on my new thread please, here
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=665402.new#new
that would be very helpful as this thread has got a bit long and confusing ??? :D
Thanks
Jan
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i am dutch and looking for information about SUSANNA QUINNELL born probably on 17 march 1822, i have a sampler from 1836 which she made age 14, there is also a unknown inscription:
mdaysoch yocn?, the sampler has a big house in the middle, i can send pictures if any one wants to see them
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Hi
Welcome to Rootschat :D
If you are sure that Susanna was born in Sussex you could start a new thread,including pictures of the sampler, on the general Sussex board
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?board=37.0
Or you could start a thread in the Common Room
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?board=46.0
Either way I am sure you will attract a lot of interest :D The inscription sounds like it could be Welsh :-\
Jan ;)
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Hello
I am trying to find the surname of Sarah, Mother of Newman Batman, Christened at St Mary's Funtington, Sussex.
05/07/1806 Newman John Sarah BATMAN
I'd be delighted if you could help me find the marriage of John and Sarah.
Thank you
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The Sussex Marriage Index has one possible marriage in that time frame. John Batman of Chichester, St Peter the Great, to Sarah Guard at Buriton Hampshire 2 April 1804.
Maybe worth thinking about. Did they have other children? Presumably the Newman is a surname from somewhere in the past.
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Hello, thanks for that Chichester is very likely. Newman had siblings born in Funtington but there are so many John Batmans about. Maybe there are more siblings earlier than 1806. Does the marriage index register have their dates of birth and parents?
also could you just confirm were they married at Buriton or Chichester, thank you so much.
Helen
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They married at Buriton. No further details. It is not until after 1837 that you get the fathers' names. The original register may show witnesses but the index does not.
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OK, thankyou, much appreciated. Helen