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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Somerset => Topic started by: Pialba on Saturday 11 June 05 04:28 BST (UK)
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I am looking for any information available on the family of Silas and Hannah Pitman nee Pursey.
There were 3 children, Frank, Eli and Emma.
On the 1881 census Eli, 23, was living in Bristol, Gloucester and was married to Emily ? they had one daughter Alice, no sign of them on the 1891 census, but I think Eli may have died. Frank, in 1881 was at Keinton Mandeviille ,26,married to Emma and had Maud, Helena, and Ethel. He was still there in 1901. Emily married James Batt and was also in Keinton Mandeville, Emily was 48 in 1901, they had one daughter, Lilian ,20 in 1901 and was a teacher of music.
If anyone can recongise any names, would like to hear from them .Twiggy
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No sign of him in the 1871 census either.
There are 2 Silas Pitmans in the S.W.
One in Tarrant Dorset, b c 1863
One in Hallatrow Somerset, b c 1865 in High Littleton
I have found a Silas Pitman married in Bristol September Quarter 1875, a birth c 1866 in Clutton Somerset and a birth c 1830 in Bridgewater.
None of these seem to match unless perhaps some of your information is inaccurate.
Sorry I cant be more help.
Good luck in your search.
Andy
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The 1861 census gives Eli Pitman as born 1858, living at Main Street Walton as a boarder.
Alfred Hedges Head aged 36 Stone Cutter b Charlton Adam
Elizabeth Hedhes Wife aged 31 Shoe binder b Walton
Eli Pitman Boarder aged 3 b Walton
Also another couple of lodgers, but no obvious connection. Not much help with his parents though! do you have Silas parents?
There were three other Pitman families living at Walton, one is Headed by Silas Pitman aged 31 years a widower,
Main Street Walton
Silas Pitman Head aged 34 Widower Stone Cutter b Walton
Emily Pitman daughter aged 8 b Walton
Frank Pitman son aged 6 b Walton
The other houses are headed by William b 1824 and wife Aquilla and Henry born 1834 and wife Mary, both William and Henry were born in Walton.
There was an Eli Pitman died Sept Q 1888 in the Bristol area aged 31 years, so this could be your Eli.
Good hunting Heather
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Hi Heather,
Many thanks for the info, it is more than I had, so I now know where they were in 1861. I had an idea Eli must have died before 1891 but wasn't sure, now I have that information too, I don't know what happened to his wife and daughter, perhaps she remarried, I don't know, I will try and hunt her down.
Twiggy
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Hi Twiggy
Went to the records office today, not sure if you already have this info but only took a couple of minutes to find
Eli Pitman was baptised at Walton on the 27 August 1857, it was a private baptism. His parents were Silas and Hannah Pitman, Silas was a stone cutter.
Hannah Pitman was buried at Walton on the 7 June 1858 aged 24 years.
Heather
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Hi Heather,
Your information has been very gratefully received, Thank you so much.
I knew Hannah must have died as Silas was listed as a widower in 1861, Eli , on the 1861 who was 3 and a boarder was there with his grandfather Francis Pursey, I would say all the Pitmans from Walton would be related in some way.
Many thanks again Twiggy
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Frank P Pitman was married to Emma roberts (1849-1919).He then married Flo Chalker (1865-1922) and then he married Lucy Saunders (1851-1947). Chalker, Saunders and Pitman are all Keinton Mandeville names.
Emma Roberts was the Grand daughter of my Great grandfather Samuel J Matcham. Mostly stonemasons or quarry workers and mostly Methodists.I have got records of the childrens marriages and descendants if you would like them. I am interested in keinton mandeville names of Matcham Cox Coates Paul Brabner Cook and Harris.
hope this is of some help.
Tracy
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Dear Tracy,
Many thanks for your letter. The children I have for Frank and Emma are Maud, Nellie, Ethel, Annie and Wilfred, Is that correct? I got them from the 1891 census. I would be really thrilled to get any information I can on the family. What have you got on Frank? His mother was Hannah Pursey and his father Silas, I can give you quite a bit on the Pursey line, not that much on the Pitman side but am working on it. Frank had a sister Emily who married James Batt. Their mother had a sister Sarah Pursey who was my gr gr grandmother.
Hope to hear many thanks Twiggy
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Yes the children you listed are the same as my list.I am getting most of this info from a distant relative who gave me what he had of a family tree, but so far every bit of info on it has turned out to be correct.The name Pitman appears in other parts of the family tree as a middle name leading me to think that it had been around in the village of Keinton Mandeville for a while.I have a James Pitman Matcham.Maud Pitman (1875-1938)married B H Brook (1971-1956).They had R B Brook(1900-1949) and he married L Payne born 1906 and then seems to have married O Cox born 1901 but no death date for the first one so was it divorce.Maud also had IF Brook and N C Brook.anyway L B Brook(1929) was a son born to R B Brook.He married Mary Quick (b. 1934) and they had 2 children Paul Brook in 1961 and Jane Brook in 1963.Gonna have to send this to you and do the rest later as dont know how to save it.
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I have the Pitman family on the 1851 census. They came from Walton in Somerset. The family were in what I can only assume is the street. Principal Street. James PITMAN 55, stone cutter, Somerton, Somerset, Ann 56, work at home, Glastonbury, Somerset, Isabella, 25 Shoe binder, Walton, Som, Silas 23, Stone cutter, Walton, Som, Eli, 21 Ag Lab. Walton, Som Henry 16 ag Lab, Walton Som. Silas had married Hannah Pursey, but died sometime between 51 and 61, on the 1861 census Silas was a widower, 34, stonecutter, Walton, Emily 8 dau scholar, Walton and Frank son 6 scholar Walton, the youngest son Eli was staying with his grandfather Francis Pursey he was 3 and was born in Street. I will have to see what I can find on the 1871 census and further. I know Frank was at Keinton Mandeville in 1881, Eli was in Bristol,, Henry was still in Walton, and Emily was in Paddington, she had married James Batt, and had a daughter Lilian. In 1891 Emily was living in Keinton Mandeville, James was a Master Baker.
A cousin of theirs Charles Plenty was living at Wincanton.
Twiggy
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Hi
I have found the same Pitman family in 1841 in Walton (no street name )Somerset
James 45 Stonecutter
Ann 45
Ann 20
Isabella 15
William 15
Eli 11
Silas 10
Henry 5
ref HO107/964/23 page 12
Hope this helps
If you need any further info on this let me know
Cal
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Thanks for the info. I had look on the 1871 census but couldn't see the family. Will have another look next week.
Twiggy