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Title: Looking for info on Edith Emily Coveney
Post by: Amy.allsopp85 on Sunday 26 May 13 20:11 BST (UK)
Hello all,
I'm looking for info on my great grandma Edith Emily Coveney born 1896 in Isle of Thanet, Kent. I know she had a sister Lilian but am struggling to find information on her parents
Would be grateful for any info :)
Title: Re: Looking for info on Edith Emily Coveney
Post by: heywood on Sunday 26 May 13 20:22 BST (UK)
Hello and welcome  :)

Is this her in 1901  852/75/ 1 with her grandparents?

Stowting Common, Kent

Thomas Coveney head 59 yrs Farm labourer b Stowting
Susannah wife 51 yrs b Elmsted
Charles son 19 yrs Farm labourer b Stowting
Edith E grandchild 4 yrs b Berwick Hill, Hythe

regards
heywood
Title: Re: Looking for info on Edith Emily Coveney
Post by: heywood on Sunday 26 May 13 20:31 BST (UK)
This looks like Lilian

1901 / 820/ 17/ 8
3 Mabel Cottages Hengrove (or Kengrove) Garlinge
Frederick Smith head 27 yrs Shepherd b Worth
Mary Smith wife 27 yrs  b Stowting
Lilian May Coveney niece 7 yrs b Hythe

I was wodering if Edith was the illegitimate daughter of Mary but perhaps not.
Mary married June quarter 1896
Title: Re: Looking for info on Edith Emily Coveney
Post by: heywood on Sunday 26 May 13 20:39 BST (UK)
Here is a possibility- have you looked at this information?

Arthur Coveney married Edith Harris in 1892.
There is a death for Edith in 1900.

In 1901 Arthur is a widower with Matilda 2 yrs and Gladys 1 yr.
Title: Re: Looking for info on Edith Emily Coveney
Post by: carol8353 on Sunday 26 May 13 20:45 BST (UK)
Her birth cert (or marriage cert) shold show you more details.

Births Dec 1896 

Coveney    Edith Emily         Elham    2a   1070
Title: Re: Looking for info on Edith Emily Coveney
Post by: carol8353 on Sunday 26 May 13 20:50 BST (UK)
This looks like Lilian

1901 / 820/ 17/ 8
3 Mabel Cottages Hengrove (or Kengrove) Garlinge
Frederick Smith head 27 yrs Shepherd b Worth
Mary Smith wife 27 yrs  b Stowting
Lilian May Coveney niece 7 yrs b Hythe



Marriages Jun 1896   

Coveney    Mary         Elham    2a   1861    
Smith    Frederick         Elham    2a   1861    

This is the aunt and uncles marriage,so maybe the girl's were the daughters of Mary's unmarried sister?
Title: Re: Looking for info on Edith Emily Coveney
Post by: Amy.allsopp85 on Sunday 26 May 13 21:23 BST (UK)
Thank you for the replies. Yes think I will have to order her birth certificate. Yes Heywood I was thinking that may of been her with her grandparents. If they has just been visiting that day as apposed to living with them would that be noted on the census? So in 1901 Edith and Lilian were in separate places? I've read an article from a Thanet newspaper reporting on Edith's marriage to Stephen Twyman in 1911 where it says that Edith was given away by her Uncle so I'm assuming her father wasn't about anymore, no mention of her mother either, although there are a few Mr and Mrs Coveney's listed in the congregation. Can't think why her father wouldn't give her away if he was there
Amy
Title: Re: Looking for info on Edith Emily Coveney
Post by: jan57 on Sunday 26 May 13 21:27 BST (UK)
This looks like Lilian

1901 / 820/ 17/ 8
3 Mabel Cottages Hengrove (or Kengrove) Garlinge
Frederick Smith head 27 yrs Shepherd b Worth
Mary Smith wife 27 yrs  b Stowting
Lilian May Coveney niece 7 yrs b Hythe



Marriages Jun 1896   

Coveney    Mary         Elham    2a   1861    
Smith    Frederick         Elham    2a   1861    

This is the aunt and uncles marriage,so maybe the girl's were the daughters of Mary's unmarried sister?

From looking at the 1881 census  ,  it  seems that  Mary  is the  only   girl ,  with  2  older brothers and younger  one also 
Title: Re: Looking for info on Edith Emily Coveney
Post by: jan57 on Sunday 26 May 13 21:35 BST (UK)
1881   details

 Thomas Coveney   aged 38   Ag Lab   born  Stowting    address   Common Cottages   Stowting

Susanah   wife aged 31  b Elmsted   Kent

Thomas  aged 12    son
Arthur   aged 10  son 
Mary   aged  7    dau
Alfred  aged 5  son 
William aged 2    son     all children born  Stowting  Kent
Title: Re: Looking for info on Edith Emily Coveney
Post by: Amy.allsopp85 on Sunday 26 May 13 21:37 BST (UK)
Ah lovely thanks Jan, was just going to say I can't find her
Title: Re: Looking for info on Edith Emily Coveney
Post by: heywood on Sunday 26 May 13 21:38 BST (UK)
As far as I can see, Thomas and Susannah only had the one daughter, Mary.
Sons of an age to be the father of the girls are Thomas born abt 1869; Arthur abt 1871 and Alfred abt 1876. 
I was thinking that as Arthur's wife was Edith, there was a link with the name.
However, I notice that there are several Edith Coveneys around Kent so that is perhaps wrong.

As Carol advises, it would be best to get the certificate to be certain.

best wishes
Heywood

Sorry - I am watching television at the same time and missed Jan's posts  ;)
Title: Re: Looking for info on Edith Emily Coveney
Post by: Amy.allsopp85 on Sunday 26 May 13 21:52 BST (UK)
1911 census found a Charlie Coveney married to a Mary coveney with a daughter Lilian aged 1, wouldn't fit with the date of birth I have, but as I have Lilian's middle name as Mary, could possibly be the right family
Title: Re: Looking for info on Edith Emily Coveney
Post by: heywood on Sunday 26 May 13 21:56 BST (UK)
You definitely should get the certificate with all these repeated names.  :)
Title: Re: Looking for info on Edith Emily Coveney
Post by: Amy.allsopp85 on Sunday 26 May 13 22:14 BST (UK)
Just ordered it now. Very confusing! Thanks for the help