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Title: Grave locations for Kings Cross Wesleyan Chapel graveyard, Halifax
Post by: Markkelly333 on Friday 24 May 13 23:07 BST (UK)
Hello, does anyone know if there are grave location maps available for this graveyard?

I have just found the burial records for my GGG Grandfather (Joseph GARTH) and GGG Grandmother (Harriet GARTH nee MANKS). However, I believe the cemetery at Kings Cross (the Wesleyan Chapel) is very large. I have a plot / grave reference of X9 but no idea where that may be.
My aunt is interested in joining me (she still lives near Halifax) but she won't be able to walk for hours around the whole site.
Hopefully I've posted the question in the right board.
Many thanks in advance for any help!
Mark
Title: Re: Grave locations for Kings Cross Wesleyan Chapel graveyard, Halifax
Post by: dave the tyke on Saturday 25 May 13 14:27 BST (UK)
Do a search of this site Mark. There was a discussion last year on King Cross Wesleyan / Methodist churchyard that resulted in some people getting positive results on locations.

Dave
Title: Re: Grave locations for Kings Cross Wesleyan Chapel graveyard, Halifax
Post by: dobfarm on Saturday 25 May 13 22:43 BST (UK)
PM this member-He is the expert on Kings cross graveyard, has access to maps of plots also finds grave stones MI's and unmarked grave locations

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=72661
Title: Re: Grave locations for Kings Cross Wesleyan Chapel graveyard, Halifax
Post by: Markkelly333 on Monday 27 May 13 14:30 BST (UK)
Thanks Dave, much appreciated
Title: Re: Grave locations for Kings Cross Wesleyan Chapel graveyard, Halifax
Post by: Markkelly333 on Monday 27 May 13 14:33 BST (UK)
PM this member-He is the expert on Kings cross graveyard, has access to maps of plots also finds grave stones MI's and unmarked grave locations

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=72661


Thank you dobfarm, I'll do that.
Title: Re: Grave locations for Kings Cross Wesleyan Chapel graveyard, Halifax
Post by: drewhowson on Monday 27 May 13 16:13 BST (UK)
Hello Everyone,
I have not been on the forum lately due to other commitments but I am willing to do look-ups and find graves for people.
Just ask on this thread or PM me.
Regards,
Andy
Title: Re: Grave locations for Kings Cross Wesleyan Chapel graveyard, Halifax
Post by: Markkelly333 on Monday 27 May 13 16:27 BST (UK)
Hello Everyone,
I have not been on the forum lately due to other commitments but I am willing to do look-ups and find graves for people.
Just ask on this thread or PM me.
Regards,
Andy

Have just PM'd you .. but a wanted to give a public thanks Andy for your help this afternoon, really appreciated and I'll be talking to my Aunt this evening and I know she'll be as interested as I am to progress this part of the family tree, thank you sir.  :)

Mark
Title: Re: Grave locations for Kings Cross Wesleyan Chapel graveyard, Halifax
Post by: dobfarm on Monday 27 May 13 18:12 BST (UK)
Hi Mark

You got the best man! as Kings cross is a dangerous place in some parts at the best of times, being on a hill side with holes, over growth trees with stringy/thorny bramble vines and needs some who knows it.

Dobby
Title: Re: Grave locations for Kings Cross Wesleyan Chapel graveyard, Halifax
Post by: Gentian2 on Friday 29 January 16 09:46 GMT (UK)
I have recently found relatives buried in this graveyard (grave 234 in section probably "C" but possibly "6") from Ancestry. Mary Ann Bake (my g grandmother) is there with Fred her son and her husband William's 2nd wife Hannah. I am wondering if this will also help me solve the mystery of when William died. We can find no record of this anywhere. I know he died after 1946 because I have a photo of him at my sister's christening. I would very much like to locate the grave to see if there is a headstone with an MI and if so take a photograph. Can anyone help me locate the grave please? I visit occasionally. Many thanks.
Title: Re: Grave locations for Kings Cross Wesleyan Chapel graveyard, Halifax
Post by: dobfarm on Friday 29 January 16 11:17 GMT (UK)
B J Melia & Sons Funeral Services, Halifax owns the graveyard, is keeper of the burial records and grave plot maps

Contact in the link.

http://www.meliafunerals.com/contact/
Title: Re: Grave locations for Kings Cross Wesleyan Chapel graveyard, Halifax
Post by: Gentian2 on Friday 29 January 16 11:22 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Grave locations for Kings Cross Wesleyan Chapel graveyard, Halifax
Post by: dobfarm on Friday 29 January 16 11:40 GMT (UK)
If you visit the funeral director - address Gibbet St Halifax

Gibbet street
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.723494,-1.8685302,3a,75y,319.9h,85.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swYCWdL1S_QE6LwoCeKCXTA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656


Kings Cross graveyard
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.7128623,-1.881237,3a,44y,221.65h,76.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sc2hJJD4Wk13_DhnHhObO3Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Title: Re: Grave locations for Kings Cross Wesleyan Chapel graveyard, Halifax
Post by: drewhowson on Friday 29 January 16 15:31 GMT (UK)
Hi all,
Am on it,
the grave will be 243 C
The year is about right for that area of the graveyard.
PM me your email and I will go tomorrow and see if there is a marker.
This area is good for Gravestones, nearly every grave has one.
All the best,
Andy...
Title: Re: Grave locations for Kings Cross Wesleyan Chapel graveyard, Halifax
Post by: Gentian2 on Friday 29 January 16 16:35 GMT (UK)
Thanks very much for your offer of help. I will send you a PM.
Title: Re: Grave locations for Kings Cross Wesleyan Chapel graveyard, Halifax
Post by: Gentian2 on Saturday 30 January 16 22:25 GMT (UK)
Many thanks Andy for your visit to the graveyard on our behalf. We are most grateful.
Title: Re: Grave locations for Kings Cross Wesleyan Chapel graveyard, Halifax
Post by: Gentian2 on Saturday 30 January 16 22:28 GMT (UK)
Thanks also Dave for your helpful information.
Title: Re: Grave locations for Kings Cross Wesleyan Chapel graveyard, Halifax
Post by: element4 on Saturday 27 February 16 18:09 GMT (UK)
My great great grandfather was Thomas Greenwood, born 1819 Hebden Bridge, West Yorkshire.  According to Non-Conformist register, "Thomas son of Thomas Greenwood and Ann his wife was born at Hebden Bridge in the township of Heptonstall parish of Halifax, 18th May 1819 and registered 1st June"

I don't know if these are the correct parents for him, though I am fairly certain that Thomas was born in 1819 in Hebden Bridge.  He married Bridget Ward, born Ireland 1823 and at some point moved to Hulme, Manchester, where their children were born.  I don't know if he moved back to Hebden Bridge.

Somebody told me his father was called Henry Greenwood.  So I am not really sure of his parentage, or if Henry was his father's father.

Thomas Greenwood, born 1819 Hebden Bridge, was registered by Non-Conformists, so his parents were probably members of the local Methodist Chapel?  So they would have been buried in the local Methodist Chapel graveyard?  And maybe Thomas was too?  Maybe Thomas' wife Bridget returned to Hebden Bridge with him?

Greenwood is a very common name in Hebden Bridge, where it originated in the twelfth century.  This part of my family is very hard to trace, with wives born in Ireland and names that were very common.

I have looked at the online pdf by the Hebden Bridge local history society, which lists burials in the local churchyard, but they seem to be mostly late nineteenth and twentieth centuries, which is a later time period than I am looking for, and they might not be Non-Conformists (Methodists?).  There are a lot of Greenwoods, but I can't see any that seem to be about my ancestors.
Title: Re: Grave locations for Kings Cross Wesleyan Chapel graveyard, Halifax
Post by: Gentian2 on Friday 04 March 16 07:07 GMT (UK)
Firstly apologies for the somewhat tardy reply. We have been having a look at your problem but have been unable to come up with anything to help you. We are somewhat novices on the use of this site, but perhaps there are others who may be able to help you. Good luck with your research.
Title: Re: Grave locations for Kings Cross Wesleyan Chapel graveyard, Halifax
Post by: KathrynMidgley on Saturday 17 June 23 15:20 BST (UK)
Hi I am new to the site and not sure I’m posting right. I’m trying to find a grave in ‘King Cross Methodist New Connexion Churchyard’ and if I’m in the right graveyard (under Wainhouse Tower in Halifax) it’s a jungle. I’ve searched posts on here and believe someone called Drew Howson may have a burial map for the site?? Unless it’s a different Methodist churchyard in King Cross, can anyone please help? 🙏
Title: Re: Grave locations for Kings Cross Wesleyan Chapel graveyard, Halifax
Post by: BumbleB on Saturday 17 June 23 17:22 BST (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat  :)

Yes, King Cross is a jungle - I visited a number of years ago!!!!!  At that time Drew Howson was a mine of information. 

Unfortunately it doesn't look as though Drew has been on line since 2019!

You could always try Calderdale FHS to see if they have any updates, and I also found Calderdale Library to be helpful, plus there is King Cross Library.

Good luck!

Title: Re: Grave locations for Kings Cross Wesleyan Chapel graveyard, Halifax
Post by: arthurk on Saturday 17 June 23 17:30 BST (UK)
Some of the burials and/or memorials are listed on Malcolm Bull's Calderdale Companion website:

http://www.calderdalecompanion.co.uk/ww_70.html
Title: Re: Grave locations for Kings Cross Wesleyan Chapel graveyard, Halifax
Post by: BumbleB on Saturday 17 June 23 17:39 BST (UK)
You beat me to it!!!
Title: Re: Grave locations for Kings Cross Wesleyan Chapel graveyard, Halifax
Post by: KathrynMidgley on Saturday 17 June 23 17:57 BST (UK)
Thank you both, the family name isn’t on the Malcolm Bull link but I have contacted Calderdale Family History Society as they have the copyright to a photo of the grave I’m looking for on Find My Past! Thank you again for replying, what a shame about Drew as I believe he had a map
Title: Re: Grave locations for Kings Cross Wesleyan Chapel graveyard, Halifax
Post by: arthurk on Saturday 17 June 23 19:25 BST (UK)
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Grave locations for Kings Cross Wesleyan Chapel graveyard, Halifax
Post by: dobfarm on Monday 19 June 23 02:07 BST (UK)
As far as I know - Drew never did tell anyone where the original Kings cross Methodist church graveyard plot maps or burial books were kept or if Drew had access to Sexton records from his own family holding them. 

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.7132965,-1.8823398,3a,80.9y,161.05h,70.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1seeaWr21xqeHX2li8AMV17g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu


https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.7132965,-1.8823398,3a,31.6y,223.22h,82.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1seeaWr21xqeHX2li8AMV17g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

added later

I'VE JUST REMEMBERED  :-[ - A LOCAL FUNERAL DIRECTOR who owns the Kings cross Methodist chapel graveyard holds  - Kings cross Methodist church  plot maps and who's buried where  and burial grave book. There was a notice board by the modern cemetery gate telling who the funeral director is or was with his/her address on it.


There are registers of burials kept at WYAS for Kings cross Methodist chapel

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/N13868254

I can say from experience of going there to the graveyard - its a very dangerous place, its hard to believe but the latterday post 1900 graveyard is cared fore but can give a false impression of being safe. Though the grass is shorter cut after a few weeks of growth covers graves that have caved in sideways for coffins caving in  leaving unseen gaps at the side up to 6 inch wide and a few foot deep.




Title: Re: Grave locations for Kings Cross Wesleyan Chapel graveyard, Halifax
Post by: PaulineJ on Monday 19 June 23 08:42 BST (UK)
Calderdale family history society photographed and transcribed every headstone in each area of the yard.

Melia are the present owners.
Title: Re: Grave locations for Kings Cross Wesleyan Chapel graveyard, Halifax
Post by: KathrynMidgley on Monday 19 June 23 10:27 BST (UK)
Thanks both if you - Melia’s are being very helpful!
Title: Re: Grave locations for Kings Cross Wesleyan Chapel graveyard, Halifax
Post by: dobfarm on Monday 19 June 23 16:28 BST (UK)
For any other member of Rootschat in the future looking for iinfo of graves

reading there is a new notice board up in Kings Cross Methodist graveyard about

the funeral directors contact info

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.7131085,-1.881919,3a,75y,227.87h,84.49t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbitx2hHBXw1wuLTVk1S2NA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

Title: Re: Grave locations for Kings Cross Wesleyan Chapel graveyard, Halifax
Post by: BumbleB on Monday 19 June 23 17:15 BST (UK)
With apologies to everyone  :o :o

The Chapel is at KING CROSS, Halifax - not Kings Cross  :-X

I have a number of family associations with the graveyard!
Title: Re: Grave locations for Kings Cross Wesleyan Chapel graveyard, Halifax
Post by: dobfarm on Monday 19 June 23 17:28 BST (UK)
With apologies to everyone  :o :o

The Chapel is at KING CROSS, Halifax - not Kings Cross  :-X

I have a number of family associations with the graveyard!

Did you mean " Not Kings Cross London"
Title: Re: Grave locations for Kings Cross Wesleyan Chapel graveyard, Halifax
Post by: dobfarm on Monday 19 June 23 17:29 BST (UK)
For future researchers wanting info of burial info of this graveyard deceased

As PaulineJ informed us

Calderdale family history society Kings Cross Methodist Chapel Halifax headstone Mi's

https://genfair.co.uk/product/king-cross-methodist-mis-13923964/
Title: Re: Grave locations for Kings Cross Wesleyan Chapel graveyard, Halifax
Post by: BumbleB on Monday 19 June 23 20:46 BST (UK)
Sorry, what I mean is:

The area of HALIFAX is King Cross, not King's Cross.

Kings Cross in London has nothing to do with this topic.


I was just correcting the venue in HALIFAX.







Title: Re: Grave locations for Kings Cross Wesleyan Chapel graveyard, Halifax
Post by: dobfarm on Monday 19 June 23 21:48 BST (UK)
Sorry, what I mean is:

The area of HALIFAX is King Cross, not King's Cross.

Kings Cross in London has nothing to do with this topic.


I was just correcting the venue in HALIFAX.

I understand now as the original poster of post #1 of thread put Kings cross in title above and you corrected it.

As I read your post at first ( I know now what you meant as above)"not Kings cross"

A lot of Locals say Kings cross though. for King cross Halifax