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Could anyone help me please ? I am trying to find information on my Great great grandfather Samuel Wade born in Suffolk in 1842. If possible his parents names etc...He was married to Eliza and had a daughter Clara. Many thanks
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Does he ever give a more specific place of birth in any later census?
When/where does he marry?
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1851 census has three possibles, born in the following places.
WADE, Samuel 1841 Bosmere
WADE, Samuel 1843 Ipswich
WADE, Samuel 1839 Wangford
Any ideas on which is most likely?
Mike
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HO107 Piece 1797 Folio 97 Page 21 - Debenham, Suffolk
Robert Wade 32 Head (Widower)
Samuel Wade 10 son
George Wade 6 son
Harriett Wade 21 Sister
all born in Debenham, Suffolk (which matches Sam's PoB in 1891, when Clara was enumerated)
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1861 has one born in Ipswich, 1844 (17 years old)
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Thank you, yes think it was Debenham. Any idea who the mother is ?
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In 1881 a Samuel Wade bn about 1842 in DEBENHAM has a wife Eliza (no daughter called Clara though, plenty of other children, youngest only little so she may be born after 1881)
RG11 1852 7 8
Is this him?
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In 1881 he's a farm bailiff in Debenham, together with Eliza and seven sons!
mike
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Wow ! Clara was born 1882, so that makes sense. Do we know the son's names ?
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By 1891 3 more children have arrived - 2 more sons plus Clara!!!!
And Eliza has died
RG12 1462 77 15
(Samuel still born Debenham)
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Wow ! Clara was born 1882, so that makes sense. Do we know the son's names ?
Have a look at 1881 census - it is free!
Children in 1891 are Alfred 10 bn Aspell, Clara 8 bn Aspell, Victor or Hector 6 bn Newson, and Ernest 4 bn Aspell
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Wow ! Clara was born 1882, so that makes sense. Do we know the son's names ?
This is them in 1881
Samuel Married 39 yrs old Farm Bailiff born in Debenham, Suffolk
Eliza Married 33 yrs old born in Kenton, Suffolk
George Son Single 19 yrs old Ag Lab born in Kenton, Suffolk
William Son Single 13yrs old Ag Lab born in Kenton,
Robert Son Single 11 yrs old 1870 Scholar born in Debenham, Suffolk
Joseph Son Single 9 yrs old Scholar born in Debenham
Charles Son Single 7 yrs old Scholar born in Debenham
Henry Son Single 4 yrs old born in Aspall, Suffolk
Alfred Son Single 0 yrs old born in Aspall
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Poor Eliza ! Is it possible to find out how she died ?
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Poor Eliza ! Is it possible to find out how she died ?
You should order a death certificate (£9.25) to find that out
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You asked:-
Thank you, yes think it was Debenham. Any idea who the mother is ?
HO107 Piece 1038 Book 2 Civil Parish Debenham Enumeration District 1 Folio 8 Page 8
Robert (& sister Harriett) were still at home in the 1841 census (Parents John & Rebecca) , and given the age of Sam in the 1851, you need to find a marriage early in the 1840s ...
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Ok and thank you for all the information.
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Only by buying her death cert
Jul/Aug/Sep 1888
Hartismore ref 4a 335
Eliza Wade age 38
looks a likely index entry
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Could anyone help me please with the parents of Samuel Wade who was born in Debenham Suffolk in 1842 ? Their names are John and Rebecca. I'd like to find out where they were born and surnames if possible. Many thanks
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Could anyone help me please with the parents of Samuel Wade who was born in Debenham Suffolk in 1842 ? Their names are John and Rebecca. I'd like to find out where they were born and surnames if possible. Many thanks
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Hi,
On 1851 census the only Samuel Wade (bc 1842 Debenham) that I can see is with widowed father Robert, brother George and Robert's sister Harriett (all born Debenham), at the Cherry Tree Inn, Debenham. :-\
Where did you find the names John and Rebecca?
Nanny Jan
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there is a John & Rebecca with a son Samuel -but he was b. c. 1835??
1851
Debenham (next door to Cherry tree Inn)
John Wade head M 62 ag lab Mendelsham Suffolk
Rebecca wife 57 laxfield Suffolk
Dennis son 19 ag lab Debenahm
George son 17 debenham
Samuel son 16 ag lab Debenham
HO107 1797 88 3
wonder if John and Rebecca are the grandparents of Samuel b 1842??
this is interesting
Samuel Wade b.c.1842 debenham can be found 1851 with father Robert (as nanyjan posted) at the Cherry tree Inn (which John & Rebecca lived next door to in 1851)
Samuel Wade 1842 Debenham can be found 1851/71/81/91/1901/1911 census -but haven't found him in 1861 - in one of the later census he is named Samuel Smith Wade
1851 census John and Rebecca have grandson Samuel Smith b.c.1842 Debenham with them??
So did Samuel have a middle name of Smith?? Or was he born pre marriage to Robert Wade???
There is a marriage FreeBMD
Jun qtr 1843 Bosmere
on same page
Robert Wade
Rebecca Smith
12 403
???
Suz
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Maybe John and Rebecca are Samuel's grandparents
In 1841 census Debenham All born Suffolk
John Wade 45 Ag Lab
Rebecca Wade 40
Robert Wade 20 Ag Lab
James Wade15
Maria Wade 15
Dennis Wade 10
Harriett Wade 13
George Wade 8
Samuel Wade 6
Harriot Sheldrake 2
In 1851 Robert is a widower.
Regards
mariac
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A previous post from somebody, maybe I've misunderstood. Thank you.
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Thank you very much for all your help.
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Can anyone help me please ? I'm looking for information on Eliza Wade born 1848 in Suffolk married to Samuel Wade born 1840 in Debenham ( under a surname of Smith ). I would like to know her maiden name and parents names. She had 10 children including my great grandmother Clara. I think Eliza died around 1882 ? Many thanks
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A birth cert of one of the 10 children would give mothers maiden name
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Thank you.
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Hi,
In 1871 Eliza has a son George DAVEY, aged 9, living with her (in 1881 he has changed his name to WADE). This could be the marriage,
Eliza DAVEY Mar Q 1866 Ipswich 4a 776
Sarah J GATHERCOLE
William BALLS
Samuel SMITH
There is a birth for an Eliza Rebecca DAVEY born in Kenton,
Eliza Rebecca DAVY Mar Q 1849 Plomesgate 12 410
Eliza Rebecca DAVY
Christening
04 Mar 1849
Kenton, Suffolk
Father: William DAVY
Mother: Mary
and a death which could be her,
Eliza Rebecca W SMITH Sep Q 1888 Hartismere 4a 337
Age : 42
Regards,
Daisy
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I wonder why they changed their names to Wade when Samuel was a Smith and Eliza was a Davey ? Thank you for your help :)
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It's been a while since I last posted a question for anyone who can help.
I'm going to try and find out more about my grandmother Elizabeth White who married my Grandfather Arthur Wade.
Can anyone help me with who her parents were ?
She was born in 1913 and died in April 1985 in Wattisfield, Suffolk.
She had 7 children including my father Raymond Samuel Wade who was born in Occold, Suffolk on 01/11/1935.
Thank you.
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Hi,
In case it helps her death gives her birthdate as 22 September 1912,
Elizabeth WADE
Apr 1985
Bury St Edmunds 10 2281
22 Sep 1912
This fits with an entry on the 1939 register.
Do you have any of her children's birth certificates? I ask as there is this marriage entry which is written on the GRO index ,
Arthur B WADE Dec Q 1929 Hartismere 4a 2421
to a WHITE or SMITH
There are matching entries for an Elizabeth WHITE and an Elizabeth SMITH to a WADE.
Normally I would think that this would mean that Elizabeth had been married previously but as she would have only been 17 it seems unlikely. Possibly she was born a SMITH and her mother then married a WHITE or vice versa.
Getting this marriage certificate might be the only way to sort this out as SMITH and WHITE are such common names and we can't even be sure of Elizabeth's POB.
Regards,
Daisy
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Thank you so much :)