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Title: BASSANO (ALL) England and Italy
Post by: Gaye on Friday 10 June 05 06:53 BST (UK)
the Bassano family began its genealogical legacy courtesy
of Henry VIII who invited 5 brothers then working for the Doge in Venetia to come to the royal court as musicians.  This was 1530's - thereupon successive generations married well and spawned a wonderful family tree.   My tree holds all know thus far - and I am very very interested to add the side-lined females who married and therefore took other surnames. 

Please share if you have even only one BASSANO in your tree - and I shall in turn do likewise.

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GAYE - NEW ZEALAND
Title: Re: BASSANO (ALL) England and Italy
Post by: frederickay on Sunday 07 December 08 08:08 GMT (UK)
hi , i am sure i saw a family history or booklet in google books . bassano1841-75. in India
i got the distinct idea they were British.i thought there was someone i knew looking for them but can't remember who. maybe you will get something out of it . Jan
Title: Re: BASSANO (ALL) England and Italy
Post by: Gaye on Sunday 07 December 08 17:00 GMT (UK)
Hi Jan  :)

Thanks for your helpful thought - I do have that book and yes they were British
by then of course...original family arriving in 1500's courtesy of Henry VIII as musicians to the court.

Best regards,
GAYE
Title: Re: BASSANO (ALL) England and Italy
Post by: sylvanie201 on Friday 05 April 13 21:10 BST (UK)
My 10th g-grandmother was Elizabeth BASSANO Lupo Chandler, b. England ca. 1597; d. Elizabeth City, Virginia, ca. 1635. She was reportedly from a Venetian family of court musicians, as was her 1st husband, Albiano Lupo, who died before she married my 10th g-grandfather, John Chandler, of England and Jamestown, Virginia.
Title: Re: BASSANO (ALL) England and Italy
Post by: Gaye on Friday 05 April 13 22:13 BST (UK)
Hi Sylvanie

Yes I see your 10th GGrandmother features in the Lupo Tree as wife of Albanus marriage prior to emigrating to Virginia. 

There's been no record found yet however that she was a Bassano
- but for myself, I think a good contender would be Elizabeth Bassano (St Leonards Baptism Index 1558-1640 Elizabeth Bassano dau of Jeronimo Bassano 8 JUN 1600) 
Daughter of Jeronimo Bassano 1559-1635 and his wife Dorothy Symonds 1563-
Sister of Augustine Bassano; Scipio Bassano; Charles Bassano; Edward Bassano; Frances (Metcalf); Nowell Bassano; Margaret Bassano; Jeronimo Bassano; Henry Bassano; Philadelphia Bassano and Anne (King)
Her brother Nowell's son is recorded as helping an errant nephew emigrate to Virginia under the watchful eye of an eminent Merchant in Virginia in 1682

What sources do you have for claiming she was a Bassano?

Best wishes
GAYE
Title: Re: BASSANO (ALL) England and Italy
Post by: sylvanie201 on Saturday 06 April 13 00:51 BST (UK)
I'm afraid I don't have any hard evidence - and I should have said so...Whether Elizabeth Lupo was born a Bassano is, as far as I know, still a theory based on some research by Glenn J. Hill.  He apparently found a record of a marriage between the Lupo and Bassano families in the generation previous to Elizabeth's, and noted that family members worked together, and lived in the same area of London, and *probably* shared Venetian Jewish ancestry.
I usually add "unconfirmed" or "speculative" to anything I have no documentation for, but I slipped up this time!  :-\
Thank you, Gaye!
Title: Re: BASSANO (ALL) England and Italy
Post by: Gaye on Saturday 06 April 13 09:28 BST (UK)
It would be great to have something concrete to connect this 'Elizabeth Lupo' to the Bassano tree for sure.
And you are right - there's another Bassano-Lupo marriage which links the families
Laura Bassano b.abt 1540 Daughter of Alvise / Alvixe Bassano and Johane Bassano 
Sister of Augustine Bassano; Ludovico Bassano; Zacharius Bassano and Julius Bassano
Wife of Joseph Lupo 1538-1616 (son of Ambrose and Lucia, brother of Peter Lupo)
Mother of Thomas Lupo; Bridget Lupo; Horatio Lupo; Joseph Lupo and Theophilus Lupo


Joseph Lupo: Admitted to the musicians guild in Antwerp, Belgium, in 1557. Musician in the court string consort 1563 - 1616.
 
Joseph, turns up in British State papers beginning in 1563, was living in Blackfriars, London in 1571, and listed as a Venetian on a return of Strangers dated that year
 
Joseph and Peter were two of four Lupos listed among the six violinists who played at the funeral of Queen Elizabeth in 1603
 
The augmentation and crest granted to the Lupos contains four Tudor roses (i.e. white over red), signifying service under Henry, Edward, Mary and Elizabeth and is a testement to their long years of service to the English royal family. This service extended into the Stuart dynasty, in the personages of Joseph's sons Thomas, Sr. and Horatio, and Peter's son Thomas, Jr.

Would be so nice if your lineage from the original Bassano brothers was as clean cut as mine!
But such is genealogy - always a new puzzle to put together!
Best wishes
GAYE
Title: Re: BASSANO (ALL) England and Italy
Post by: sylvanie201 on Saturday 06 April 13 19:49 BST (UK)
I do hope a missing puzzle piece for Elizabeth turns up! I'm grateful for your information and I'll add it to my notes. Maybe one of my descendants will be able to fit together a real connection someday :)

Thank you so much, Gaye!

As a side note, I have an uncle by marriage - Michael Meaney - who married my widowed ggg-aunt, Elizabeth Danaher O'Connell. She was from County Limerick, and spent 15 years in London before emigrating to the States. His origins are still mysterious; I only know he was born in Ireland before the Famine...
Title: Re: BASSANO (ALL) England and Italy
Post by: kc123 on Friday 21 February 20 22:39 GMT (UK)
I've found an additional couple of documents in my search. I'm trying to verify them with photocopied documents. If/when I get those, I will upload them. But maybe some of these names will help in the search The will of Antonio Bassano (married to Elena (Ellyna, Ellena) DeNazzi. He was one of five sons of Jeronimo Bassano. Their son, Edmond married Alice Austen. They had 11 children. 2 survived the plague outbreak in England around 1615 (I think it was smallpox but not sure).  One of those 2 was Elizabeth Bassano.

Please understand I'm not sure about all of these accounts but I thought I would put it out there in case anyone has relevant information. Please pardon any errors.
Title: Re: BASSANO (ALL) England and Italy
Post by: derryt on Monday 09 October 23 06:44 BST (UK)
My seventh great grandmother was Bridget Bassano. I have found a copy of her marriage Certificate to Edward Kynaston dated 27 June 1672 at St Martin in the Fields, London. Also the birth of her daughter, Bridget Kynaston 24th July 1673 at Walthamstowe, Essex. I would love to know if she is related to these Italian musicians and if so how.
Title: Re: BASSANO (ALL) England and Italy
Post by: Gaye on Monday 09 October 23 20:13 BST (UK)
Hello there Derryt

June 26, 1672 Age 35   
Marriage of Edward Kynaston 1637- and Bridget Bassano 1642-
St Martins in the Fields, London, England (United Kingdom)

‘June 26 Edward Kinaston, of S’ Alban’s, Wood Street, London, Salter, Bach. , ab’ 35, & Bridget Bassano, of Walthamstow, Essex, Widow, ab’ 30; at S’ Martin’s in Fields’. LML 1672.

Bridget was the widow of John Bassano (Christening Date 26 Apr 1636
Christening Place ALLHALLOWS LONDON WALL,LONDON,LONDON,ENGLAND
Father's Name John Basano
Mother's Name Anne
IGI Record Batch P00085-1; Son of John Bassano 1608-1654 and his wife Anne
Bassano, John, gent., Walthamstow, Essex 1653 32
(Will proved 27 Sept 1655)  John Bassano was son of Anthony Bassano 1579-1658 and his wife Dorothy nee Hinde (m.604)

So Bridget Bassano/Kynaston your 7GGrandmother was widow of my 1st cousin 9x removed.
Haven't found her maiden name as at today.

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Title: Re: BASSANO (ALL) England and Italy
Post by: derryt on Tuesday 10 October 23 05:17 BST (UK)
Thank you! A bit sorry that I am not directly related to the Bassanos- they sound amazing, but really appreciate the extra pieces to the jigsaw puzzle.
Title: Re: BASSANO (ALL) England and Italy
Post by: sugarbakers on Tuesday 10 October 23 09:55 BST (UK)
I have a John Bassano, sugar refiner and merchant, working in Hull from c1780 and London c1800. Is he related to this thread, I wonder ?

www.mawer.clara.net/sugarbbae.html
Title: Re: BASSANO (ALL) England and Italy
Post by: Gaye on Tuesday 10 October 23 21:33 BST (UK)
YES Sugarbakers...he is one of the descendants of the original 5 brothers who came to England courtesy of Kind Henry VIII

Son of Richard Bassano 1718-1793 and his wife Amy nee Stephenson 1728-1802
Brother of Richard Bassano (my 4th GGrandfather); Dorothy Bassano; Christopher Bassano; Francis Bassano; Mary (Swanwick); Sarah Bassano; Mark Anthony Bassano; Thomas Bassano and Christopher Bassano

Husband of Ann nee Burton 1765- (m.1794) and Elizabeth nee Tallents 1769-1792 (m.1792)
Father of Francis Bassano; Ann Elizabeth Brown; John Noel Bassano; Richard Leander Bassano; Henry Bassano; Thomas Edward Bassano; Charles Bassano; Sarah Bassano and Henry Bassano

 Sugar House Building Purchased for HULL SUGAR BAKERS

"Charles Delamotte, son of a London sugar refiner, was sent up to Hull when he returned from his journey with John Wesley to Georgia. He built the New Sugar House in Wincomblee, and was in business from the forties to the seventies, for part of the time in partnership as Delamotte, Beel & Company. Delamotte made - or inherited - enough money to forsake the world of business for the tranquility of Lincolnshire, spending the last thirty years of his life in retirement in Barrow-upon-Humber.
Delamotte's place was taken in Hull by Francis Bine, master mariner and whaler owner who, it was said, made £20,000 out of the American war, and 'commenced Merchant and Sugar Boiler having bought the New Sugar House on Wincomblee'. He occupied the House for perhaps twenty years, having a turnover, in his bank account for 1785, of a little over £26,000. Some time around 1790 he or his executors sold the House to 'John Bassano, John Carlill, John Boyes and John Levett of Hull Sugar Bakers'; or, to be more accurate, they bought it by running up a huge overdraft with Smiths & Thompson's Bank. Their premises were insured for £15,000 until August 1797, when the total was raised to £20,000".

John Bassano died 8 February 1841
Title: Re: BASSANO (ALL) England and Italy
Post by: sugarbakers on Wednesday 11 October 23 11:06 BST (UK)
Wow ... thank you. I already have the Gordon Jackson quote on my Hull webpage, www.mawer.clara.net/loc-hull.html , but I shall now add the connections to that same page, as well as write a note into Case Studies.
It's really good to be able to add some depth to some of these sugar refiners, especially those with such a colourful history, and I appreciate you letting me share your hard work.
Title: Re: BASSANO (ALL) England and Italy
Post by: Gaye on Wednesday 11 October 23 19:13 BST (UK)
 ;D   You're most welcome