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Hi Im having trouble trying to get info from London gazette M I D on my late father T W Barnes who was Mentioned in despatches the only info I have is Vol 20 page 715 28. 5. 46 MED L/G2457 .As Ive never been into their site I,m finding all a bit to confusing. Is there someone that can give me some help. Thanks Marlers
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He are all the items in the London Gazette for "T.W.Barnes" What was his full name, rank, regiment etc..
http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/exact=T.+W.+Barnes/start=1
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Hi his full name was Thomas William Barnes he was a driver in the Royal Engineers [British Army] duty location Mediterranean. I hope that is all the info you asked for.
Many thanks
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I do not think that your reference to Thomas William Barnes is published in the London Gazette. Look at the reference to a Thomas William Barnes on 26 May 1942 on the London Gazette which reads Issue number:35576 Page number:2326. Presumably your father was Mentioned in Dispatches +- 1942. Check the link below.
http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/issues/exact=Thomas+William+Barnes/start=1
I am not an expert in "Mentioned in Dispatches" but I would say your reference numbers are from Royal Engineers Documents.
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Hi I don't think that Thomas was my Father I have just looked on my letter from the Ministry of defence again showing me a copy of the medal card it says my father was awarded a mention in despatches. On that is his army no 2147763 corps R E Dvr Operations M I D Vol 20 page 715
MED 23. 5 .46 L/G 2457 File no I V E 3640 date stamped 26 Nov 1946..Sorry if Ive just repeated previous info but that is now all I know/have I would love to be able to tell more I don't know how I can get any more .
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Marlers
Unfortunately not a lot of the citations for MIDs appear to have survived however he will have an entry on the London Gazette, but like you I have great trouble finding entries.
However it would appear that from what you have posted his MID may be on Page 2457 of the London Gazette of 23/05/1946. Are you able to confirm if he was a POW at all, as that might explain the later date of being gazetted.
I do have a number of the WO 373 files downloaded which I am slowly trying to wade through for my own purposes, so could have a look and see if his citation does survive. However due to other things I cannot spend as much time on doing that as I would like so there may be a long delay in getting any info for you, if that is any exists at all!
Let me know
Regards
Andy
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Hi Andy many thanks for your reply ,to the best of my knowledge my Father was not a P O W . I don't know if I can get a copy of the London gazette or if there is a phone no. that I can use where they can throw some more light on his M I D.It,s so annoying when you know some person/office is holding some info you are desperate to get hold of and can,t for one reason or another.I,m so lost with this and I thought doing my family tree was hard. I am so grateful for your help and I am happy to wait .
Thank you once again
Marlers
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Hi Marlers,
I have found the London Gazette entry for your father T W Barnes. It was in the supplement to the London gazette. He is about half way down the right hand column & it basically says the following.
2174463 Dvr T W Barnes.
This is a link to it, which you should be able to save a copy of it or print it at the very least:
http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/37575/supplements/2457/page.pdf
Hope this helps.
Kind regards
David
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Hi David I have just read your info. and have now saved and printed a copy .I,m so pleased thank you for your hard work I don't think I would have ever found it myself.I,ts a shame it doesn't say for what reason he was mentioned but something is better then nothing as I said I am very happy to have this .
Once again thank you very much
Marlers
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Hi Marlers
I had a look at the London Gazette and it looks as though the MID was for the Mediterranean theatre
The link below is the first page in the series dated May 1946.
http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/37575/supplements/2443
You could also try the the Royal Engineers Museum
Yours Aye
BruceL
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Hi Thank you for your help I am now trying to get in touch with the Royal Engineers museum to see if they can help as you suggested fingers crossed .
Many thanks
Marlers