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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Wiltshire => Topic started by: RachelLouise on Sunday 12 May 13 10:03 BST (UK)
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Is anyone looking for/ have any information on the Bray family that live in Trowbridge?
It would be nice to come across someone that is looking at/for the same family.
I'll go from my grandad.
Kenneth Alfred Bray b. Oct 1928 - brother Frederick Ernest Bray b.1926 d.2002 Gloucestershire and Herbert Ernest Bray also born 1926.
Their father is Frederick Ernest Bray b. 1895 (d.1961 semington) who married Beatrice Ethel Swaine (also known as Ethel Beatrice b.1898 d.16/6/1971 semington) in Melksham in 1926.
Fredericks father was also called Frederick b.1868 Hilpertons Marsh who married Annie Elizabeth Holloway (b. Steeple Ashton 1873) in Melksham in 1894.
They had William Clements b.1901, Stanley Nelson b.1904 d.1925 Bristol, Florence Lily b.1897, Dorothy Gladys b. 1907 and Ernest Victor George b.12/5/1910 and of course Frederick Ernest.
From there in all honesty I get a little bit lost. Can anyone help me with Fredericks father? I'm not sure if its a William or a Fredrick and when I asked my grandad he came up with and I quote "It was a bloke from Trowbridge" o_O
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Yes I can see your problem because there are two Fredericks born Trowbridge c1868/9
To be absolutely sure you should buy the marriage cert for Frederick and Annie. This will give their fathers' names and occupations which will sort them out.
Marriages Jun 1/4 1894
Frederick Bray
Annie Elizabeth Holloway Melksham vol 5a page 209
Births Mar 1869
Frederick Bray Melksham 5a/121
Births Dec 1/4 1869
Frederick Rowland Bray Melksham 5a/110
Frederick Rowland Bray is with parents Frederick and Mary in 1881 so if yours doesn't have the middle name Rowland then his parents are more likely to be William and Martha
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Thank you. I don't think he has a middle name.
I think maybe his father is William as I found this on family search.
Frederick Bray
England Marriages, 1538–1973
birth: 1869
marriage: 30 Jun 1894 Saint James,Trowbridge,Wiltshire,England
parents: William Bray
spouse: Annie Elizabeth Holloway
Name Frederick Bray
Birth Date 1869
Birthplace
Age 25
Spouse's Name Annie Elizabeth Holloway
Spouse's Birth Date 1872
Spouse's Birthplace
Spouse's Age 22
Event Date 30 Jun 1894
Event Place Saint James,Trowbridge,Wiltshire,England
Father's Name William Bray
Spouse's Father's Name John Holloway
Indexing Project (Batch) Number M15350-2
System Origin England-ODM
GS Film number 1279314
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That is confirmation that William is his father.
There is a public tree on ancestry that has William Rowland Bray marrying a Louisa Mason so another reason to rule him out as your Frederick. :)
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That is confirmation that William is his father.
There is a public tree on ancestry that has William Rowland Bray marrying a Louisa Mason so another reason to rule him out as your Frederick. :)
Thankyou. I thought it seemed the most logical but I'm new to this so I was just looking for a little help and confirmation :)
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here he is in 1871
RG10 Piece 1920 Folio 8 Page 7
William Bray 35 Mason's labourer
Martha Bray 32 laundress
Willie Bray 10
John Bray 8
Amelia Bray 6
Tom Bray 4
Fredk Bray 2
Henry Fisher 35
All born Trowbridge
I am having a bit of trouble finding a marriage for William and Martha on FreeBMD
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Thanks.
I've found a Martha Ford marrying a William Bray in Alderbury in 1885 but that can't be the right ones surely?
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Well yes it could be. Something could have prevented their marriage sooner or maybe they just didn't get around to it!
Maybe check the 1891 census to see if there is another William and Martha.
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1861 Census in Trowbridge we have;
Martha Bray, 21 (1840) Head, Mar, Rag Sorter, born Trowbridge
+ 2 Vistors
A Tree has Martha as nee WOODS but no Marriage.
Looks like they eloped ;D
Marriage FreeBMD;
Martha WOODS, June 1860, Abergavenny, 11a 160
William BRAY on same page
1841/1851 Census Martha Woods c 1840 Trowbridge is with Parents WILLIAM/ELIZABETH
Trish :)
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1841 Census
Back Street,
Trowbridge, Wiltshire
HO107/1182/12/Trowbridge
William BROY, 30, Ag Lab
Mary, 20
WILLIAM, 4
Thomas, 2
Mary, 55
1851 William Jnr is a Servant with the Hillier Family in Trowbridge down as born c 1837.
Possible Marriage from Familysearch.Org;
William BRAY and Mary SARTIN, 05 August 1835, Trowbridge, Witshire
1851 Census for his Parents and Grandmother we have;
William BRAY c 1810
Mary c 1818
Thomas c 1840
Jno c 1842
James c 1847
George c 1850
Mary Bray, 66, Grandmother, Widow, Cloth Worker
All born Trowbridge
I presume Mary is Williams Mother
1861 William/Mary have extra Children;
Albert c 1852
Mary Ann c 1855
Amelia c 1858
1881 Census Mary is born c 1817 Hilperton, Wiltshire;
Mary SARTIN Christened 07 July 1816 Hilperton to STEPHEN/MARY
Probable Marriage for Stephen to Mary RICHMAN, 16 June 1806 Hilperton
1841 Census
Hilperton, Wiltshire
Stephen SARTIN, 64, Ag Lab
Mary, 55
Ruth, 15, Servant