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Title: Birth/death dates for mary OSULLIVAN and john GRATTAN
Post by: Ausjules on Tuesday 07 May 13 04:32 BST (UK)
Mary and john are the parents of jane veronica gratton who was born in graytown victoria in 1878 and died 1st of sep 1954. Jane veronica is the second wife of arthur hangan and i have alot of information on them both but with the various spellings of GRATTON, GRATTEN, GRATTAN, i have found it very confusing to find much on her parents. Any help would be greatly apprieciated cheers, julie.
Title: Re: Birth/death dates for mary OSULLIVAN and john GRATTAN
Post by: majm on Tuesday 07 May 13 04:45 BST (UK)
Are you looking for :
Jane Grattan with parents as John Grattan and Mary Osullivan.... She was born Gr Ay, Victoria in
1878 and VIC BDM reference #16400 ....  Info on Vic BDM birth certs is best in the world !

Adding

Copying from my post on earlier thread, here's the link for VIC BDM certs

Info on VIC BDM certs is very detailed giving family history details, ..........

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,373754.0.html 

Vic BDM images can be downloaded immediately via plastic card spending ($Au20)…


https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=purchaseImage


Cheers, JM
Title: Birth/death dates for mary OSULLIVAN and john GRATTAN
Post by: Ausjules on Tuesday 07 May 13 05:00 BST (UK)
Thanks heaps, yes i have jane veronicas death cert and it states her parents names and marriage etc but i would love to get a date on mary or johns deaths or births so that i can order there certs, but there were a few of them and i am unsure which to order. Cheers, julie :)
Title: Re: Birth/death dates for mary OSULLIVAN and john GRATTAN
Post by: majm on Tuesday 07 May 13 05:05 BST (UK)
Hopefully Jane's Victorian birth cert will have details of her parents marriage, their ages, full names (including nee),  her dad's occupation, where Jane's mum and dad were both born, etc and of course details of any older siblings for Jane, where (as in an address) Jane was born, etc.

Fingers crossed

Cheers,  JM
Title: Birth/death dates for mary OSULLIVAN and john GRATTAN
Post by: Ausjules on Tuesday 07 May 13 05:46 BST (UK)
Oh cheers for that :) i just had an email from a distant relative of janes death certificate but it only stated her birth/death/marriage details and a sister and her parents names. I will get a copy myself in case some info was left out. Thankyou again, julie.
Title: Re: Birth/death dates for mary OSULLIVAN and john GRATTAN
Post by: majm on Tuesday 07 May 13 05:47 BST (UK)
I am suggesting you get Jane's BIRTH CERT .... ;D

Reason :  This is (first hand) information Jane's Mum or Dad provided about themselves when registering her birth.


Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Birth/death dates for mary OSULLIVAN and john GRATTAN
Post by: Dundee on Tuesday 07 May 13 06:31 BST (UK)
GRATTAN - On the 19th March, at her residence Bishop street, Seymour, Mary, beloved wife of the late John Grattan, late of Stony Creek, loving mother of Michael (deceased), John, Kate, (Mrs. T. Neal, deceased), Mary (Mrs. Walker), Jane (Mrs. Hangan), Henry, Nellie, and Jerry, aged 80 years. RIP. 

GRATTAN - The Friends of the late Mrs.MARY GRATTAN are respectfully invited to follow her remains to the place of interment, the Old Seymour Cemetery. The funeral will move from her late residence, Bishop street, Seymour, THIS DAY (Saturday, March 20), at 3.30 p.m
(Both notices at) http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/3740996

Obituary
At the age of 80 years Mrs. Mary Grattan died on Friday last at Seymour. Deceased lady was relict of the late Mr. John Grattan, of Stony Creek, of which district she was an old and respected resident, where she reared a large family, with whom there are many sympathising friends and neighbors.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/58093491

This link will show you the info you can expect to find on BDM certificates in Victoria
http://www.jaunay.com/bdm.html

As JM has said, the birth cert of one of their children or John and Mary's marriage cert will provide more reliable information than a death certificate.

This may be their marriage in Victoria:

John GRATTEN
Mary O'SULLIVAN
Married 1867
#3893

Debra  :)
Title: Birth/death dates for mary OSULLIVAN and john GRATTAN
Post by: Ausjules on Tuesday 07 May 13 06:42 BST (UK)
Oh wow, thankyou so much :) i had searched trove but i must have missed that! I shall get janes birth certificate, thankyou, julie.
Title: Re: Birth/death dates for mary OSULLIVAN and john GRATTAN
Post by: wivenhoe on Tuesday 07 May 13 06:47 BST (UK)

Will Victoria
John GRATTAN d. 12 May 1891 Stoney Creek, near Seymour, farmer
executor Michael O'Sullivan of Puckapunyal  beneficiary wife Mary GRATTAN
Title: Re: Birth/death dates for mary OSULLIVAN and john GRATTAN
Post by: Raylen on Tuesday 07 May 13 07:23 BST (UK)


Possible death

GRATTAN Jno  1891  age 55 years
Seymour 
Father:  Jno   Mother: Mary Unknown
Reg#8130

Title: Re: Birth/death dates for mary OSULLIVAN and john GRATTAN
Post by: Raylen on Tuesday 07 May 13 07:28 BST (UK)

Looks like some of this family is buried in Seymour.

If you would like photos of headstones in
Seymour Cemetery and Seymour Pioneer Cemetery
in the name of Grattan and O'Sullivan
Carol will email them to you no charge.   :)

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0tuc/

Raylen
Title: Re: Birth/death dates for mary OSULLIVAN and john GRATTAN
Post by: Raylen on Tuesday 07 May 13 07:34 BST (UK)


And Mary's death
( with some scrambled parent information  :-\  )

GRATTAN  Mary
1926  80 years  Seymour
Father:  Grattan Jno  OSullivan   Mother: Unknown
Reg# 3151
Title: Re: Birth/death dates for mary OSULLIVAN and john GRATTAN
Post by: Raylen on Tuesday 07 May 13 07:39 BST (UK)
This may be their marriage in Victoria:

John GRATTEN
Mary O'SULLIVAN
Married 1867
#3893
Debra  :)

A little more information on the marriage Debra found

GRATTEN John ( born Bathurst)
OSULLIVAN Mary (born New South Wales)

Raylen
Title: Birth/death dates for mary OSULLIVAN and john GRATTAN
Post by: Ausjules on Tuesday 07 May 13 08:20 BST (UK)
Firstly i would like to say thankyou so much, even the smallest information can bring a smile to someones face and you guys spend your days doing that :) i went to seymour a few weeks ago and found mary and john at the pioneer cemetery. There graves had been damaged but there names were on a wall plaque. I was unable to find janes at the old cemetery. So thankyou all again for your patience with someone who is at the moment suffering from baby brain ;) i now have all of these new avenues to explore which should keep me busy, i am beyond excited :) cheers, julie.
Title: Re: Birth/death dates for mary OSULLIVAN and john GRATTAN
Post by: Ausjules on Friday 11 July 14 09:01 BST (UK)
Just a quick update on my very slow progress :) Mary was born, mummel, near goulburn, NSW, to Bartholomew O'Sullivan and Catherine Crowley, who were from Cork ;D Cheers, Julie.