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IN the 1861 Census GEORGE EDWARD LANGER : aged 2 : is listed at 44 High St, Ringwood, Hampshire, together with his Grandparents WILLIAM LANGER (Head of household) and CHARLOTTE -- and assorted uncles & aunts --- BUT NOT HIS PARENTS.
George Edward appears again in the 1871 Census with his Grandparents etc., and in the 1881/91 and 1901 census elsehere --- BUT NO INDICATION IN ANY OF THEM AS TO THE NAMES OF or the whereabouts of his parents.
If possible, would someone be kind enough to look in the 1841 and/or 1851 High Street, Ringwood, Hampshire, Census for WILLIAM LANGER (head) CHARLOTTE LANGER (wife) and list ALL the occupants present -------- which, with luck, should give me the missing name of George Edward's father.
The eldest (aunt) shown in 1861 was age 28, and the next two were uncles aged 27 and 25 : Gge Ed's father may therefore have been 16/ or 19 if he shows in the 1851 .
Kind regards, PERCY
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Hello
Sorry I can't help with a lookup in the 1841 or 1851 census but you may be interested in the following Ringwood baptisms:
LANGAR Hannah 15 May 1771 of David & Ann 6 months old
LANGAR Nanny 15 September 1775 of David & Ann
LANGAR William 10 December 1777 of David & Ann
LANGAR Charles 18 February 1821 of William & Ann of R, Malster
LANGAR Jane 1 February 1818 of William & Ann of R, Malster
LANGAR Charlotte Gates 5 August 1832 of William & Charlotte of R, Tailor
LANGAR William Arthur 28 July 1833 of William & Charlotte of R, Tailor
LANGAR Mary 28 April 1815 of William & Nancy of R, Malster
LANGER Hannah 19 June 1772 of David & Ann
LANGER George Alfred 27 January 1828 of George & Eliza of R, Attorney's Clerk
LANGER George Edward 29 June 1859 of George & Sarah Elizabeth of Christchurch, Tailor
LANGER Walter Frederick 19 March 1862 of George & Sarah Elizabeth of Christchurch, Tailor, dob 9 December 1860
LANGER Ann Leaf 21 December 1838 of John & Ann of Ashly, Carpenter
LANGER Frederick 26 September 1841 of John & Ann of R, Carpenter
LANGER Emily 3 May 1845 of William & Charlotte of R, Tailor
LANGER George 16 December 1836 of William & Charlotte of R, Tailor
LANGER Selina 25 August 1844 of William & Charlotte of R, Tailor
LANGER Walter 16 December 1836 of William & Charlotte of R, Tailor
LANGOR George 13 May 1808 of William
LANGOR William 2 February 1806 of William
And these are some Ringwood marriages that may interest you:
LANGER David of R, soj, bach GATRILL Ann of R, sp 25 Jun 1765 Banns
LANGER John of R HURDLE Ann of R 28 Jun 1836
LANGER William of R, bach BRINT Ann of R, soj, sp 22 Jan 1805
LANGER Hannah of R, sp DAVIS Thomas soj, bach ? Jul 1789
LANGER George, Bach of Christchurch, Tailor, of William, Tailor, married Sarah Elizabeth TANNER, Sp of Ringwood, of John, Cattle Dealer - 28 June 1858
I hope these entries have given you some clues as to the parents of George Edward in 1859.
Jane7
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Dear Jane 7,
I have just returned home from a two week visit to the UK and found your brilliant, stunning, reply to my Langer post.
How can I thank you for such a wonderfully clear and thorough response ? Not living in the UK I had been completely stumped for the parents --- and didn't know at all about the second child.
It is my wife's family, and we are so excited and pleased to have this gap in our research filled in.
With apologies for the delay in replying; very kind regards, and sincere thanks. PERCY
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Hello Percy
I just had another thought and found the following Ringwood baptisms which could be of interest to you:
TANNER Georgiana 16 June 1841 of John & Elizabeth of Poulner, Cattle Dealer
TANNER John 31 August 1791 of John & Elizabeth
TANNER John Edward 11 June 1834 of John & Elizabeth of R, Cattle dealer
TANNER Mary Ann 16 September 1832 of John & Elizabeth of R, Lab
TANNER Sarah Elizabeth 19 February 1836 of John & Elizabeth of R, Dealer
I hope you find something useful from this.
Regards
jane7
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Jane,
You are a STAR -------- absolutely a STAR !
Your reply about the Langers gave me at least a dozen pieces of factual information previously unknown to me --- and enabled me to deduce others.
And now the Tanners !!
You will think me singularly ungrateful not to have replied sooner, but this is the first time I have logged on since I last thanked you.
Really, really grateful. Very kind regards, PERCY
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I have come across your email and would be interested to know if you would have any information on a 'Mary Grey' aged 7 who was boarding with Sarah Elizabeth Langer in 1881 at Poulner Road, Ringwood.
Also if you would know what bacame of Sarah Langer & the rest of her children as to whether they remained in Ringwood or moved elsewhere?
We are descendants of Mary Grey and apart from appearing in the 1881 census there is no other information to be found......
Kind Regards
Thelma
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Thelma
Sorry I can't find anything on Mary Grey in my notes. Do you know where and who she married?
As to Sarah Langer, she married Lewis Tom Guy and moved to Highcliffe and then possible to Andover where she died in 1914, aged 78 yrs.
One of her sons, George Edward married Alice E Smooker in 1883, but it would appear that she died in 1892. Their children appear in later census in Sussex and in Derbyshire with various Aunts and Uncles. It would appear that he later married Helen Jane Belbin in Christchurch.
I hope this helps.
Jane
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Jane
Thank you for responding so quickly and also the information regarding Sarah Langer.
In respect of my grandmother Mary Grey, she went into domestic service in Weybridge, Surrey and married a Ralph Wheatley in 1899, they lived for several years in Walton on Thames, Surrey. My grandfather had his own Wheelwright business. They retired to Cornwall where she died aged 94.
As mentioned my grandmother never knew her parentage, is it possible that she was born in a workhouse close to Ringwood? or was there something similar in existence in the 1870's for fostering or the like.. She was told from a young age, that a trust fund was administered on her behalf by a solicitors practice in Guildford, Surrey.
It is baffling as to why there is no record of her birth, I have recently been to Winchester Records Office with family members, but cannot find a trace of her baptism or any record of her, other than her entry in the 1881 Census with Sarah Langer. Can you suggest any other likely areas I should search?
Kind regards,
Thelma
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1841 Christchurch Street HO107/398
William Langer head 30 tailor
Charlotte " wife 30
Charlotte 9
William 8
George 6
Walter 4
Selena 1
1841 Elms Poulner
Charles Langer 20 Male servant
1841 Up Street
Ann Langer 60 Shopkeeper
Mary 20
Jane 20 dressmakerer
1841 Up Street
John langer 25 Carpenter
Ann 25
Henry 4
Ann 2
I am sitting in the library at Ringwood when I saw your request. Unfortunately I have not been able to find the 1851 census here making enquiries. Ann
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me again, after last post got the urge to search for more info...slightly addicted to researching family trees now.
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Dear Chickaboo,
I don't know what 'sin' you committed but the above is what was done to both your replies by the system. Thank you for trying anyway. Percy
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Dear 'Moors'
Thank you so much for your most helpful reply to my inquiry ---- which I am almost ashamed to admit I have only today logged on and read.
Percy
1841 Christchurch Street HO107/398
William Langer head 30 tailor
Charlotte " wife 30
Charlotte 9
William 8
George 6
Walter 4
Selena 1
1841 Elms Poulner
Charles Langer 20 Male servant
1841 Up Street
Ann Langer 60 Shopkeeper
Mary 20
Jane 20 dressmakerer
1841 Up Street
John langer 25 Carpenter
Ann 25
Henry 4
Ann 2
I am sitting in the library at Ringwood when I saw your request. Unfortunately I have not been able to find the 1851 census here making enquiries. Ann
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All is forgiven, lots to do as Christmas is approaching, time running out. Ann