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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: lanarkshire lassie on Thursday 02 May 13 11:09 BST (UK)
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I remember there was a thread a while back, regarding this cemetery. I have, at long last found it!
I have a couple of pics of stones that may be of interest. I plan another visit, as it is about 20 minutes walk from my new house.
If anyone has a surname that they know is buried here, let me know, and I will try my best to locate, and take a photo..if possible.
Cheers
Gail. :)
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Gail, good luck with it all :)
Just adding link to the other post, simply for further background - www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,210686.0.html
Just for background, if you are ever looking for another cemetery with an on-going thread here on RC, have a look here www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,510660.msg3669348.html#msg3669348 for the link to that thread.
Monica
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Hello, I seen this thread when looking at the history of The Globe graveyard. If anyone is struggling to find this place it can be accessed from 3 locations.
Off Braidhurst St, Mothewell - You will see the new primary school up to the left on the hill at the dead end. If you follow the walkway down the hill for about 10 min, you will come to a bridge on your right over the Calder. Cross this and you'll see two stone pillars with a red ash road which leads to the graveyard.
Off Dalriada Crescent, Forgewood. There is a car park near the flats and metal gates to the walkway. You will see the 9 arches bridge from the road, follow the path for around 10 mins under the bridge till you see the footbridge on your left
Both of these routes you are in not the best areas for walking or leaving a car for any length of time, especially Forgewood.
Or the third option is down Kirklee Road from Mossend, I've only driven so far down this road then stopped but I'm sure it wouldn't be much more than 10mins walk after ditching the car.
Some pics I took today.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3681/12951768154_75b6d01286_c.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/92309152@N03/12951768154/)
DSC_9422 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/92309152@N03/12951768154/) by Colin Cummings (https://www.flickr.com/people/92309152@N03/), on Flickr
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7400/12951477723_6b5e50055f_c.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/92309152@N03/12951477723/)
DSC_9424 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/92309152@N03/12951477723/) by Colin Cummings (https://www.flickr.com/people/92309152@N03/), on Flickr
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3818/12951329705_a0f082d86d_c.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/92309152@N03/12951329705/)
DSC_9429 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/92309152@N03/12951329705/) by Colin Cummings (https://www.flickr.com/people/92309152@N03/), on Flickr
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Hi Gail,
I'm pleased you've found a new stomping ground. :) If you should come across any 'INGLIS' headstones I would be most interested.
Thanks also to Colin for taking the time out to take some 'happy snaps'...it's really very sad that this cemetery is so unkempt, unloved and allowed to be desecrated in this way. I imagine that it was quite a stately and dignified place to inter the dearly departed in its day and I suppose being off the beaten track has quite a bit to do with it's now dilapidated state. ::)
Great to see the weather's okay and you can get out and about for a stroll in Motherwell!
Sage.
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As I live locally I would be more than willing to offer my help to maintain/ preserve the cemetery. Please let me know if I can be of assistance. Cheers
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it's really very sad that this cemetery is so unkempt, unloved and allowed to be desecrated in this way. I imagine that it was quite a stately and dignified place to inter the dearly departed in its day and I suppose being off the beaten track has quite a bit to do with it's now dilapidated state. ::)
Sage.
This article from almost a year ago, is about the cemetery and clean up (sad to see the above pictures one year later, suggesting disrespectful individuals have undone some of the sterling work of the volunteers):
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/local-news/clean-up-operation-motherwells-globe-2536505
As I live locally I would be more than willing to offer my help to maintain/ preserve the cemetery. Please let me know if I can be of assistance. Cheers
Maxcam, perhaps you could contact the LFHS to find out if they could put you in contact with the organisation mentioned in the article - maybe they could use your help:
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Thanks for the advice
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Hi all…
I'm a Canadian who is resident in Scotland, living not far from the Globe Cemetery. As it happens, two sets of my great great grandparents are buried there along with other ancestors. I have been on several visits and each time I grow increasingly disheartened about the condition of the cemetery. These feelings grew especially strong after recently finding a photograph of how it used to look - so stately and peaceful. Now it is a sad, disgusting mess - not at all a place to rest in peace.
I'd like to look into the possibility of launching a campaign to restore the cemetery to its' former glory as much as possible. This will be no mean feat and will likely cost a fortune - which the local authority likely won't pay for. If anyone on here (especially those with connections to the Globe) would consider making a donation to a crowd-funding initiative, would you reply here and let me know? If there is enough interest on this and other forums then I'll draw up a plan and get the ball rolling. I'll add some pics from my most recent visit soon!
Jeff
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Hi Jeff,
I really applaud your passion on the subject of the sad state of Globe Cemetery. I'm in Australia and haven't visited the Globe Cemetery but have seen numerous photos of it and the wanton destruction of what was once a very dignified place. Sadly, all the money in the world won't improve the culture of the folk who vandalise and desecrate what to the rest of us is sacred ground. :'( :(
You might be better to take your clipboard out and around the streets of the Motherwell area and collect signatures and present it to the local council. You would need them on side to get anywhere with your mission as it's council property. People are not likely to put their hands in their pockets if they feel that what they donate to will be trashed as it has been before. We're all saddened by the vandalism and destruction but feel hopeless to do anything. I hope you can get a posse behind you and make a difference.
Best wishes, Sage.
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Hi Sage,
Thanks very kindly for the encouraging reply. It's nice to know I'm not alone. Even if it's not pledges I receive but simply to know who else might have an interest in the project then that would be helpful. There must be hundreds of people if not thousands with a vested interest in it… but you're spot on in that it is really a matter of values here… and education. I also feel that it is somewhat like the analogy of the building with the broken window. If it doesn't get repaired then more windows will be broken, and soon graffiti appears, and bricks chipped away, etc. If the council keeps the cemetery in this condition then it will never be treated with more respect.
I'll keep you updated! I work in Edinburgh Monday through Friday so time is limited but I'm determined to do something!
Jeff
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Jeff, whatever you can do, will be a positive step :)
Have you researched for local groups with a similar interest in maintaining and repairing the cemetery on a voluntary basis? A 2013 story here for example, from the Daily Record. www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/local-news/clean-up-operation-motherwells-globe-2536505
This blog entry (June 2015) made me laugh (I understand what she means, in general, sad isn't it!):
The Globe Cemetery
My very favourite thing about living here is ‘my’ graveyard! My husband showed it to me the first Summer after we moved here and I fell in love. The Globe Cemetary is an abandoned graveyard which sits right in the middle of the woods opposite our house. It has stones dating back to the 1700’s and some of the plots have several generations of the same family. It is creepy, but cool and we all know how I love creepy things. I walk down there a lot and it is my favourite spot to take potographs. When Summer decides to stay for more than 10 minutes I am going to go down and use my spirit box
www.alifelivedinwords.com/tag/motherwell/
Monica
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Monica,
You shouldn't believe everything you read! First of all, the Globe cemetery was opened in 1876, so there are no stones dating back to the 1700s. Secondly, it isn't abandoned, North Lanarkshire council do try to keep it tidy. Thirdly, it is situated on the banks of the river Calder, not in the middle of a wood.
It is, as we already know, in a dreadful state but nothing anyone does now will ever replace headstones that have weathered beyond recognition or have been broken, vandalised or stolen.
It is impossible to police the area as it is too isolated and difficult to drive into.
It is easy for vandals, drug addicts and destructive delinquents to gain access on foot at any time.
I have about a dozen ancestors buried there and it is so sad that the cemetery is in its present condition but, realistically, it would be throwing money away to try and upgrade it.
What, for example, could be done? Any new trees that were planted would immediately be vandalised. Any new stones erected would be pushed over or broken.
A regiment of soldiers would be required to guard the place. The blame can be laid at the feet of the members of Dalziel Parish Council who after only 30 years, decided that the Globe was too small and too out of the way to serve the parish. A new cemetery was opened at Airbles and the Globe was left to its own devices. Very few new lairs were opened and it was only used after that time by those parishioners who already had family plots there.
The phrase "Flogging a Dead Horse" comes to mind.
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You shouldn't believe everything you read! First of all, the Globe cemetery was opened in 1876, so there are no stones dating back to the 1700s.
Lodger,
I think what was said "It has stones dating back to the 1700’s" was probably referring to people buried there who were born in the 1700's & possibly used the wrong wording?
Annie
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Monica...You shouldn't believe everything you read!
I seldom do ;) The point I was trying to make was that anyone considering this type of action should also look around at what other voluntary initiatives have been tried previously.
I know you know the history of this cemetery and others too, Lodger. Exceptionall well :)
Monica
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Lodger speaks the awful truth...it's a hard truth to swallow but sadly, there is little anyone can do to resurrect the damage already done. It's why we all feel so hopeless against such odds. However, it's really heartening to know that people care and would rally for the cause if the odds were in their favour. Sadly, in this case there's no point throwing good money after bad!
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Hi Annie, you said -
"I think what was said "It has stones dating back to the 1700’s" was probably referring to people buried there who were born in the 1700's & possibly used the wrong wording?"
Here's what the lady said in her other blog about ghosts in Motherwell -
Hidden deep in the woods is an abandoned cemetery which I adore visiting. some of the graves go back to as far as 1715. Unfortunately there is a great deal of vandalism, but it still has amazing atmosphere.
The lady has a vivid imagination!
It's many years since I was last there but "deep in the woods"?
I'm going to make a visit there today and take my camera, it's a lovely brisk, cloudless autumn day, perhaps I'll meet the ghosts of some of the Lodger clan!
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Well folks, I paid a long visit to the Globe yesterday, the weather was excellent and I took LOTS of pictures.
To be honest, it was about 40 years since I was last there (and I'm only in my late twenties!) and since that time the trees have really grown, so it does look a bit like it's in the middle of the woods.
Almost 99% of the stones I saw had either a date prior to mid 1905 (when Airbles cemetery opened) or had a reference to an earlier burial (children who died in infancy). So, as soon as Airbles opened, burials at the Globe began to drop away unless there was family already buried there. Which means it's really a very small window in the history of the parish of Dalziel, from 1876 until probably the late 1950s or early 1960s.
There are 3 family plots from my grandmother's side of the family there, I remembered where 2 of them were situated but never knew where the other one was. Out of the 2 that I knew, one stone had either disappeared or was lying on its face and the other was broken in two and lying on its back.
I will try to edit the pictures as soon as possible and then post a list of what I have.
In the meantime, anyone who thinks there may be a family plot there can contact me.
It seems to me that there will be a lot of incomers to Motherwell buried here. It was opened because of the growing population due to the new Iron & Steel works and the railways, coal mines etc. Many of these people came up from England & Wales. The locals were still using their old family plots in the 2 parochial burial grounds (one at Dalziel Old Manse and the other at Windmillhill).
Some stones at the Globe have reference to children who were interred in these churchyards earlier.
Some stones have survived really well while others, like the huge memorial to the Colville family, have been obliterated.
I'll add a couple of pictures here to give an idea.
One thing I should mention, it is NOT a good idea to visit this place alone. I parked at the top end of Braidhurst Street and it took me a good 10 minutes walk, down a very isolated path to reach the cemetery. The path continues up into Kirklee, a part of New Stevenson and, as I was walking down, (just before midday), 2 delightful specimens of young womanhood came from the Kirklee direction, one of them was carrying a half-full bottle of Buckfast wine and they were both in a very jolly condition. Pictured below, the one in the pink top was carrying the bottle.
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Sign of the times I'm afraid Lodger
I remember the days when they would have offered to share the Bucky with you
Sad times :(
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Don't know where to start really... Lodger, as always, you are a hero to have followed your heart and your love for accuracy on this all. Goodness, 40 years last since you were there...you must only be 41 by now ;)
From photos and stuff I have seen, looks like a bit of land (or maybe it is the walk to get there that creates that appearance, like you say you had a walk to get there). How many acres was it do you know?
Loved the story of the ladies you came across (and your comments Sancti ;D).
Hey, we all do the best we can. Said by a lady whose eldest son at the age of 18 months learnt to walk 'safely' in a little cemetery on a Saturday morning, whilst Dad was at the Gym 8) www.geograph.org.uk/photo/24968 ~ Sad, I know...
Monica
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Hi Gail,
I'm pleased you've found a new stomping ground. :) If you should come across any 'INGLIS' headstones I would be most interested.
Thanks also to Colin for taking the time out to take some 'happy snaps'...it's really very sad that this cemetery is so unkempt, unloved and allowed to be desecrated in this way. I imagine that it was quite a stately and dignified place to inter the dearly departed in its day and I suppose being off the beaten track has quite a bit to do with it's now dilapidated state. ::)
Great to see the weather's okay and you can get out and about for a stroll in Motherwell!
Sage.
Hello Sage,
Am very new to this site so I hope I am sending this correctly.....I note you mentioned "Inglis" headstones in the above quote......I had great grandparents Alexander & Agnes Inglis living in Braidhurst Rows around 1900 - 1910 when they migrated to Australia with 7 children. I know they had another 2 sons die before then.....could be buried in Globe? Is there a family connection with you? Hope to hear from you Regards, Seeking Family
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Hi Seeking Family and welcome to RootsChat...
My in-laws have Inglis on both sides of the family so I've done a lot of research on the Inglis families in the area. I have more than one Alexander Inglis...do you have a maiden name for Agnes so that maybe I can identify the family you're searching for. Will help if I can. :)
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Hi Seeking Family and welcome to RootsChat...
My in-laws have Inglis on both sides of the family so I've done a lot of research on the Inglis families in the area. I have more than one Alexander Inglis...do you have a maiden name for Agnes so that maybe I can identify the family you're searching for. Will help if I can. :)
Thank you for your quick response. Yes the Scottish tradition of naming children after parents can be very confusing indeed. My Alexander was born in 1865 and Agnes's maiden name is Archibald. I think her birthdate is around the same as Alexander.
I appreciate any additional information you may be able to give. Regards Seeking Family
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So sorry Seeking Family...
I can hardly believe it myself but this is one Inglis family I haven't come across in my research. I hope someone else researching the Inglis family comes across your post and sends you a message. Best of luck.
Sage
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So sorry Seeking Family...
I can hardly believe it myself but this is one Inglis family I haven't come across in my research. I hope someone else researching the Inglis family comes across your post and sends you a message. Best of luck.
Sage
Thank you Sage for taking the time to check and your good wishes. I'll keep my finger crossed, because I found a post from 2013 regarding the Braidhurst Rows Motherwell and the person they were researching is my grandmother's sister. Unfortunately I have had no response from that original post and given the time between then & now it's a fair chance that I may not. I can but hope.
Again thank you very much for all your encouragement.
Warmest Regards
Seeking Family
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Seeking Family do you know who the parents of your Alexander Inglis were? Posting this information might help to get you some additional help. :)
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Hi Gail,
I'm pleased you've found a new stomping ground. :) If you should come across any 'INGLIS' headstones I would be most interested.
Thanks also to Colin for taking the time out to take some 'happy snaps'...it's really very sad that this cemetery is so unkempt, unloved and allowed to be desecrated in this way. I imagine that it was quite a stately and dignified place to inter the dearly departed in its day and I suppose being off the beaten track has quite a bit to do with it's now dilapidated state. ::)
Great to see the weather's okay and you can get out and about for a stroll in Motherwell!
Sage.
Have photo of Inglis & Clark with Jessie Inglis died 18th Jan 1942. Stone was erected by Bessie Inglis
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With North Lanarkshire archives closed due to Covid, contact LFHS who have a copy of the daybook for the Globe cemetery