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Title: passenger list 1911
Post by: lily-pond on Thursday 02 May 13 10:06 BST (UK)
Walter J Smith born 1887 in Brighton under his mothers surname Thompson,he married Nellie Shaw in Brighton June 1910
I have found attestation paper for him that he signed 31st August 1915 for Canadian overseas expeditionary forces.He was living at that date..73 Ann St,Toronto
Only a guess that he went to Canada about 1911,did his wife go with him?cant find any children born in England.
I have photos of him taken in Toronto.
Any help would be great..Thanks
Title: Re: passenger list 1911
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 02 May 13 10:12 BST (UK)
Have you searched for him in 1911 Canadian census? free at www.automatedgenealogy.com

If he's not there try finding him in 1911 English census (we aren't allowed to do lookups for it but you can search on www.familysearch.org)
Title: Re: passenger list 1911
Post by: lily-pond on Thursday 02 May 13 10:36 BST (UK)
I have checked 1911 canadian census Thanks
Title: Re: passenger list 1911
Post by: carol8353 on Thursday 02 May 13 10:56 BST (UK)
The marriage was in 1908.

Marriages Jun 1908   

Shaw    Nellie         Brighton    2b   499    
SMITH    Walter         Brighton    2b   499   
Title: Re: passenger list 1911
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 02 May 13 10:59 BST (UK)
Hi,

Looks like this one is still a work in progress http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=296761.0

No luck so far on passenger lists.

The Privacy Laws in Canada are very strict and of course you are looking for a very common name in "Smith"
There are no Central registries/indexes in Canada for BMDs.  Canada has very strict privacy laws and each province imposes its own even further.  Additionally, some provinces are more research friendly than others so researching in Canada can be challenging.  The last available Canadian Census was 1911 apart from Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta which was 1916. 1921 is due out shortly which might help. As a guide BMD Records are only available for births more than a 100 years ago, marriages 80 years ago and deaths 70 years ago. Trying to trace modern day families in Canada are sometimes dependable on newspaper announcements, cemetery records, obituaries, telephone directories etc.

Sandra
Title: Re: passenger list 1911
Post by: carol8353 on Thursday 02 May 13 11:05 BST (UK)
Walter 24 and Nellie 22 Smith and Cissie age 2 travelled out to Canada on The Canada.
They arrived at Halifax Nova Scotia on 10 Apr 1911 and left from Liverpool.
Title: Re: passenger list 1911
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 02 May 13 11:12 BST (UK)
Looking at the Canadian Attestation papers, they do indicate that Nellie was with him at 73 Ann Street Toronto. Walter (Chauffeur)
What is the other name, it is transcribed as Walter John Edmond Smith on anc but Walter John  Edward Smith on Collections Canada.

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-119.02-e.php?image_url=http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gat3/104935a.gif&id_nbr=287451

Walter, (Farm Labourer)  Nellie and Cissie arrived Halifax Nova Scotia 10 April 1911 on the Canada
C G E A Com Claim 27248

Sandra

Oops sorry Carol, you are way ahead of me.  ;)
Title: Re: passenger list 1911
Post by: carol8353 on Thursday 02 May 13 11:17 BST (UK)
Looking at the Canadian Attestation papers, they do indicate that Nellie was with him at 73 Ann Street Toronto. Walter (Chauffeur)
What is the other name, it is transcribed as Walter John Edmond Smith on anc but Walter John  Edward Smith on Collections Canada.

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-119.02-e.php?image_url=http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gat3/104935a.gif&id_nbr=287451

Walter, (Farm Labourer)  Nellie and Cissie arrived Halifax Nova Scotia 10 April 1911 on the Canada
C G E A Com Claim 27248

Sandra

Oops sorry Carol, you are way ahead of me.  ;)

I can see them from the Canadian side,but they don't seem to show up leaving from the UK  ???
Title: Re: passenger list 1911
Post by: carol8353 on Thursday 02 May 13 11:21 BST (UK)
I think I've found them in Windham Ontario in 1911.

This is how they are transcribed!

Walter Smith 24 he is a farm labourer.
Mary Smith    22
Sing Smith    2
Title: Re: passenger list 1911
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 02 May 13 11:27 BST (UK)
Much the same as the info you gave Carol - Canadian passenger List from Liverpool to Halifax Nova Scotia on the SS Canada arriving 10 April 1911. Walter Smith (farm labourer) aged 24 years born 1887. Nellie 22 years, born 1889 and Carrie Smith (as transcribed) aged 2 years born 1909 (read it as Cissie, the same as you on the image)

Sandra

Still catching up Carol  ;)
Title: Re: passenger list 1911
Post by: carol8353 on Thursday 02 May 13 11:34 BST (UK)
I've finally found them departing the UK on FindMyPast ( left Liverpool on 1st April 1911)

He is Mr W Smith,farmer,with wife Mrs Smith and child Smith ( Very helpful!!!)

I entered the name of the ship,port leaving and port arriving and the year 1911.
Title: Re: passenger list 1911
Post by: lily-pond on Thursday 02 May 13 11:54 BST (UK)
Thanks to you both..your stars xx