RootsChat.Com
England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => London and Middlesex => England => London & Middlesex Lookup Requests => Topic started by: corinthian on Monday 29 April 13 10:17 BST (UK)
-
Hi,
Just really want to know the best site for looking up parish records for the St Sepulchre area in London pre 1837. Have tried a couple of sites but having trouble finding anything I can just download on line.
Regards
Coreen
-
Hi Coreen
The surviving registers deposited at the London Metropolitan Archives have been digitised, transcribed and put online at Ancestry, they have a special landing page for the London Record collection.
Hope this helps
Dawn
-
Hi Dawn,
Thanks. I do subscribe to Ancestry so i'll take another look.
Regards
Coreen
-
I know this is an old post, but I'm asking the same question!
Looking on Ancestry, it would appear that they're missing scans between 1715-1730 (which is highly annoying as I'm looking for a baptism for 1728).
I've e-mailed LMA to ask if those particular years are still available to view (i.e. if Ancestry just missed them during the digitisation process). The transcriptions are available, just not the images, alas.
Cheers,
Nick
-
Hi Nick
What are you looking for?
Dawn
-
Hi Dawn,
I want to find out if the actual entry has any additional information on it (e.g. "of this parish", occupation of father, etc.)? Of course, with it being a 16th Century Baptism record, it may just state what the transcription states and nothing more!
The transcription (initially from familysearch, and also replicated to Ancestry) states the following:
Name: John Waek
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 26 Sep 1728
Baptism Date: 20 Oct 1728
Baptism Place: St Sepulchre,London,London,England
Father: Robert Waek
Mother: Elizabeth
FHL Film Number: 374999, 375000
I believe the surname should be "Wake", and that John is possibly an illegitimate child born to Elizabeth, the daughter of the Reverend Robert Wake (with Elizabeth possibly adding the name of her father to "hide" the illegitimate nature of the birth). I could be barking up the wrong tree, of course! ;)
Cheers,
Nick
-
The original register is held in store and is accessed on microfilm at LMA, reference P69/SEP/001/A/MS07219/004.
If no-one can look it up for you, you could order a printout from the film, but I think it is very unlikely to include the information you're seeking.
https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/london-metropolitan-archives/visitor-information/Pages/microfilming.aspx (foot of page).
-
The original register is held in store and is accessed on microfilm at LMA, reference P69/SEP/001/A/MS07219/004.
If no-one can look it up for you, you could order a printout from the film, but I think it is very unlikely to include the information you're seeking.
https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/london-metropolitan-archives/visitor-information/Pages/microfilming.aspx (foot of page).
Hi,
Many thanks - much appreciated. As I live in Hertfordshire, going into London is relatively straightforward, so I'll put it onto my "to do list" shortly.
You're probably right about it not containing any further information (it being a 16th Century record), but until I see it, I won't know! ;D
Cheers,
Nick
-
The same would probably apply with an 18th-century record too. ;)
-
The same would probably apply with an 18th-century record too. ;)
Indeed! Sometimes, you can be lucky, however :)
-
Hi Nick
If you have a spare 5 minutes, could you please email Ancestry and complain the pages are missing from London England Baptisms Marriages & Burials 1538-1812 collection even though the LMA catalogue states there is a microfilm
http://ancestryuk.custhelp.com/app/ask/session/L3RpbWUvMTQ0MjU5MzU2MC9zaWQvX2QxN1lOd20%3D
and quote the LMA catalogue reference number P69/SEP/A/001/MS07219/004
Thanks
Dawn
-
Hi Dawn,
Done - sent the appropriate e-mail to Ancestry. They might take a while to respond... ;)
Cheers,
Nick
-
Thank you.
I've been reporting these issues whenever they arise but the standard answer I get back is that these missing parts are such a very small amount of entries in the great scheme of things that Ancestry doesn't believe there is a 'problem' with them not being there.
I would hope that if more people reported the missing items from the London collection that Ancestry might wake up and do something constructive to rectify the missing or mis-labelled entries of which there are many in addition to the ones listed here
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=430983.0
-
Hi Dawn,
Alas, they responded with a stock response:
"Thank you for contacting Ancestry in regards to the missing baptism registers.
Thank you for bringing this to our attention. Thank you for contacting Ancestry. At Ancestry, we are constantly searching for new records that will help our subscribers find their ancestors. There are many factors that go into selecting records to be added to the site. We prioritize our search based on what subscribers tell us they need the most. Of course, once found, not all records are available to us from the archive or repository that holds them. At this time we do not have any specific information to share on the records you’ve asked about. Please check the “What’s New” section of our website often at http://www.ancestry.com/cs/reccol/default. If you have any questions regarding any other matters pertaining to Ancestry, please do not hesitate to contact us by responding to this email."
(which, of course, misses the point entirely - i.e. they missed those years in their scanning regime)...
Oh well, I've tried replying, but probably to no avail...
Cheers,
Nick
-
Thanks for trying.
I reported missing pages last week and they asked me to send the URL of those missing pages so they could investigate!
-
It sounds as though whoever was responding to my e-mail hadn't read it properly, and thought I was asking for new parish records, as opposed to identifying missing years...
Maybe I should have emphasised the missing years/gap in the records?
Oh well... ::)
Cheers,
Nick
-
Ah-ha, a further response :)
"Thank you for contacting Ancestry in regards to the London Metropolitan Archive Registers.
I have forward your request to add the missing records in the London Metropolitan Archive Registers so that the relevant department can consider adding these collections to the website, I cannot promise that the collections will be added neither can I give a Timeframe on when.
We’re always sorry to learn that our members had a frustrating experience. We’ve forwarded your feedback on to the proper department for consideration. "
8)
-
I won't hold my breath ;D
-
I won't hold my breath ;D
Me neither, but it's a better response than the first one! ;D
-
Having just noticed your posting I thought I would add my contribution from 2010 which I had totally forgotten. I guess Ancestry count on everyone giving up waiting And no don't hold your breath it might be another 5 years !!!
Barbara
"Census and Resource Discussion / Re: More London records released on Ancestry
« on: Friday 12 February 10 22:32 GMT (UK) »
Since the LMA records went online in September I have been trying to access the baptism register for St Sepulchre Holborn for the years 1714 -1730. Each time I got the register for 1683 onwards instead. So I started sending "wrong image" messages. Then I sent an email and eventually got a reply saying they dealt with errors according to the number of people who had contacted them. So I continued to check and send 'wrong image' messages.
Now today I see that they have updated and removed the 1714 + tag, so there is nothing to click on, and I can't even complain because they are now not offering it as available!"
It's all a cunning plot !!
-
Now today I see that they have updated and removed the 1714 + tag, so there is nothing to click on, and I can't even complain because they are now not offering it as available!"
It's all a cunning plot !!
How sneaky, and just checked - maybe it's time for another e-mail? ;D
8)
-
I have sent my email, though in my experience Ancestry customer support will just fob me off again.
Not sure where the "support" comes in. ???