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My great great grandad is called Albert Swaine.
I can find him in the 1911 census living in Semington, Wiltshire as the widowed head of his family. Living with his children George b.1890, Ernest b.1896, Beatrice (my grandfathers mother) b.1898 and Amy b.1900.
However the whole family I can't seem to find any earlier. On FamilySearch.org I can find an Alfred Swaine marrying a Celia Bodman in Melksham in 1887 but this Alfred is born/christened in 1857.
I cant seem to find an Alfred Swaine born 1862 unless the last name changes it way of spelling ie. Swayne or Swain.
Can anyone help me, or does anyone have any information on this family?
Thanks in advance
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Hi
"My great great grandad is called Albert Swaine. " ?
Alfred?
1891 RG12 1602 77 p10
#3 Semington Bridge, Melksham
ALFRED SWAINE,34 Aglab
Celia, 32, Bradford Upon Avon
Herbert Bodman, 10, Stepson, Trowbridge
George H 1
Marriage Mar 1887 Melksham 5a 145
Alfred Swaine / Celia Bodman
Ray
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Hi,
They seem to be in Semington in 1901
Albert, Celia and family transcribed Swain.
RG1929 34/11
Ages are slightly out but that was quite common.
Cathy
oops...sorry Ray :)
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FindMyPast is showing the family in Semington in 1901 down as Swain
all the family as per 1911 except Celia , there's also an Edith Swain aged 10 and Florence aged 1 and a Herbert aged 20 as 'son of Celia Swain'
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Hi Cathy
Very interesting? 2x Swaines? 2x Celias?
???
Ray
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I'm sorry you're right Ray it is Alfred Swaine. My mistake.
I'm at work and tried to type too quickly.
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Is this the family in 1901 as Jan found ? RG number:RG13 Piece:1929 Folio: 34 Page: 11
SWAIN, Alfred Head Married M 41 1860 Carter On Farm
Semington, Wiltshire
SWAIN, Celia Wife Married F 40 1861
Wingfield Trowbridge, Wiltshire
SWAIN, George Son Single M 12 1889 Scholar
SWAIN, Edith Daughter Single F 10 1891 Scholar
SWAIN, Ernest Son Single M 6 1895 Scholar
SWAIN, Beatrice Daughter Single F 4 1897 Scholar
SWAIN, Florance???? Daughter Single F 1 1900 (all born Semington)
BODWIN, Herbert Son Of Celia Swain Single M 20 1881 Gen Labourer
best wishes
Maria :)
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Hi
My previous post = 1891
Ray
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Yes that's the family I found Maria , :)
Celia Swayne death is in Bath Sept qtr 1907 she was 49
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That seems to be the family Maria, so they're name was spelt differently sometimes.
It's got a little confusing because Beatrice also used to go by Ethel too - on her death record it comes up as Ethel (Beatrice). I went and visited her grave the other day and I'm pretty sure it said Beatrice Ethel. My whole family changed their names around like this...
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Hi
1881 RG11 2048 124 P31
6, Upper Bond Street, Trowbridge
Richard Bodmin, Head widow labourer carter 53 Wingfield
Amelia, dau woollen cloth weaver 25
Celia, dau woollen cloth weaver 23
Richard, son cab driver 21
Anne, dau tailoress, 16 (note Deaf and Dumb from birth)
Sarah, dau woollen cloth weaver 14
Alice, dau 12
Frank, son 10
Emily, dau 5
Herbert Bodmin, Grandson, 1M
(all born Wingfield except where noted)
Ray ...............
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and I notice from her birth reg, that Florence ( born 1900 ) is Amy Florence ,
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wow thankyou all so much.
I'm a complete beginner and it's hard to get my head round. Do you mind if I ask how and where you get all you're information from so quick?
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Edith born 1891 dies in 1903 aged 12 , Melksham RD , registered as Edith Mary Swayne
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I have a sub to FindMyPast and Ancestry , so look up info on there ,
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1871 RG10 1921 41 p37
Stallards Street (?) Trowbridge
Richard Bodmin Head 40 Gardeners Labourer Wingfield
Dinah Wife 40 Freshford
Henry Son 16 Freshford
Amelia dau 15 Wingfield
Celia dau 13 Wingfield
Richard Son 10 Wingfield
George Son 8 Wingfield
Anne dau 7 Wingfield
Kate dau 4 Wingfield
Alice dau 2 Wingfield
Eliza Davis 23, Boarder, Woolen weaver
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I've found this.
Is this them? Birth years aren't right and her last name is Bodman instead of Bodmin
Celia Bodman
England, Marriages, 1538–1973
birth: 1858
marriage: 1887 Melksham, Wiltshire, England
parents: Richard Bodman
spouse: Alfred Swaine
Name Alfred Swaine
Birth Date 1857
Age 30
Spouse's Name Celia Bodman
Spouse's Birth Date 1858
Spouse's Age 29
Event Date 1887
Event Place Melksham, Wiltshire, England
Father's Name John Swaine
Spouse's Father's Name Richard Bodman
Indexing Project (Batch) Number M15341-2
System Origin England-VR
GS Film number 1279377
Reference ID 2:XXJBGB
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That looks like them Rachel , birth years and spellings were sometimes slightly out back then
I found a death for Celia and Alfreds son George Henry , he died during WW1 in 1915 in Mesopotamia ( Iraq) info from the Commonwealth War Graves site
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Hi
I agree.
Marriage Jun 1852 Bradford upon Avon 5a 245
Richard Bodmin / Dinah Ward
Ray
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If Alfred's father is John this could be the family in 1871 :-
SWAIN, John Head M 72 1799
SWAIN, Mary Wife F 58 1813
SWAIN, Martha Daughter F 22 1849
SWAIN, Alfred Son M 14 1857 all born Wiltshire
Ref: RG number: RG10 Piece:1917 Folio:49 Page:16
Best wishes
Maria :)
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Hi
1861 RG9 1297 89 p12
Wingfield Village
[Note transcribed as Bodwin]
Richard 30 Head Aglab Wingfield
Dinah 30 Wife Bradford
Julia 8 dau
Henry 6 son
Amelia 4 dau
Celia 3 dau
& next door (parents?)
John 65 Aglab Hungerford xxx(?) Somerset [ Farleigh Hungerford, Somerset? ]
Maria 64 Shepton Mallet
more to follow ..................
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Swayne in 1861?
SWAYNE, John Head Married M 60 1801 Road Surveyor
SWAYNE, Mary Wife Married F 46 1815 Formerly Domestic Servant
both born Corsley, Wiltshire
SWAYNE, James Son M 14 1847 Agricultural Labourer
SWAYNE, Martha Daughter F 12 1849 General Servant
Both born Westbury, Wiltshire
SWAYNE, Elizabeth Daughter F 7 1854 Scholar
SWAYNE, Alfred Son M 4 1857 Scholar both born Semington
ref: RG number: RG09 Piece:1294 Folio:137 Page: 4
best wishes
Maria
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1851 census John is listed as James but all other details are the same as the subsequent census info: -
SWAIN, James Head Married M 50 1801 Road Labourer
SWAIN, Mary Wife Married F 37 1814
both born Corsley, Wiltshire
SWAIN, Sarah Daughter F 6 1845 Scholar
SWAIN, James Son M 4 1847 Scholar
SWAIN, Martha Daughter F 2 1849
SWAIN, Emma Daughter F 5m
All children born Westbury
Best wishes
Maria
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Thankyou all for your help and in depth answers :)
I must be doing okay now I got the hang on misspelled names I seem to be finding that same families as you are on findmypast.co.uk
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Hi
Leave you to practise then?
Transcriptions can be different to each other on all sites, even obvious names.
Ray
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If you'd like to :D
Watch out for more posts from me though
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Hi
As shown, Maria and Jan are quicker than I.
All you have to do now is prove it all to your satisfaction.
Good Hunting
Ray