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Title: Phyllis May Hayes ?
Post by: kenny1947 on Thursday 25 April 13 12:52 BST (UK)
A mystery lady. Married Frederick Walker in 1918 (Faringdon Register Office), according to marriage certificate he was a widower 70 years old and she was Spinster aged 25. This would lead me to suppose her birthdate is circa 1893 but i cannot find her on BMDs or Census. Her father is listed as Charles Hayes a Cowman on a farm and she was living with Frederick at the time of marriage in Gravel Walk, Faringdon. I know all about Frederick but nothing about her so if anyone has access to the local Parish records and can find a mention of her I would be very appreciative.

Title: Re: Phyllis May Hayes ?
Post by: chenet on Thursday 25 April 13 13:19 BST (UK)
Any clues in a will for Frederick - if he left one?
Title: Re: Phyllis May Hayes ?
Post by: kenny1947 on Thursday 25 April 13 13:51 BST (UK)
Nice thought, can't see one on Ancestry though. If nothing else turns up i might try the probate court search engine.

Kenny
Title: Re: Phyllis May Hayes ?
Post by: HarryW on Thursday 25 April 13 16:53 BST (UK)
Kenny,


I had a quick dig through census records and can't see anything that fits, I've also scanned the marriage records to see whether Phyllis married again, but didn't find anything that looked right.   I did however, find a burial record that looks promising:

Cholsey St Mary:

23 Nov 1953 - Phyllis May WALKER aged 58 - Fairmile Hospital

The age is a bit out, but I wonder whether this was given by Fairmile rather than a family member.

That is all of the detail that is shown on the record.

Regards
Harry
Title: Re: Phyllis May Hayes ?
Post by: sillgen on Thursday 25 April 13 17:28 BST (UK)
I assume you have searched under different spellings?  Heighes etc?  I wonder if her age is well out.  Difficult one.  Did they have children?
Title: Re: Phyllis May Hayes ?
Post by: kenny1947 on Thursday 25 April 13 17:37 BST (UK)
Thanks for that Harry, i had seen that but it looks as if she married again in 1937 to an Arthur Hunt, if so death was probably in Wantage 1939.
What also is quite astonishing is that she married Frederick in 1918, in 1924 she had a son but on the birth certificate there is no mention of the father. Frederick died in 1929 so he was very much alive when she gave birth.

A gem of a mystery
Title: Re: Phyllis May Hayes ?
Post by: chenet on Friday 26 April 13 10:41 BST (UK)
Does the second marriage certificate hold any further clues?
Title: Re: Phyllis May Hayes ?
Post by: kenny1947 on Friday 26 April 13 18:25 BST (UK)
I have only very recently found that, if it is her of course so presently not in possession of the cert.

Kenny
Title: Re: Phyllis May Hayes ?
Post by: MargP on Friday 26 April 13 18:51 BST (UK)
Hi

Who are the witnesses on the MC

Margp
Title: Re: Phyllis May Hayes ?
Post by: kenny1947 on Friday 26 April 13 19:02 BST (UK)
 Unknowns, it was at the register office so they could have been dragged in of the street. I did check them out on the 1911 census but there appears to be no kinship to them, possibly acqaintances but that is at best.
Regarding variations on names, I have tried all the ones that you might think of but still nothing pops up. Even tried just putting Phyllis in FreeBMDs and still no joy.

Kenny