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Title: ABBOTT, William, Winton, Queensland
Post by: Etude on Sunday 21 April 13 04:22 BST (UK)
I am looking for any information regarding WILLIAM ABBOTT.  He died on the 16th September 1939 at the District Hospital, Winton, Queensland.  He was buried on the 17th September 1939 at the Winton Cemetery.  The minister was from the Roman Catholic Church, and he died at the local hospital with no know relations.  I would like to find any information recorded for him during his time in Australia. I have previously asked for help regarding his two brothers who came to Australia with him.  I have found one returned to England and the other went to the goldfields in Western Australia.

"There was an Alfred (1873), William (1868) and Henry ABBOTT (1870) who arrived onboard the Dacca into Queensland in Jan 1890. "

Iris
Title: Re: ABBOTT, William Winton, Queensland
Post by: judb on Sunday 21 April 13 06:44 BST (UK)
Previous thread;
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,558642.msg4112924.html#msg4112924

Judith
Title: Re: ABBOTT, William, Winton, Queensland
Post by: Etude on Monday 22 April 13 00:13 BST (UK)
Thank you for adding the thread Judith.
Title: Re: ABBOTT, William, Winton, Queensland
Post by: giblet on Monday 22 April 13 00:19 BST (UK)
Hi Iris,

Do you know what his occupation was?

Also have you tried Trove?
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/search?adv=y
Title: Re: ABBOTT, William, Winton, Queensland
Post by: sparrett on Monday 22 April 13 00:35 BST (UK)
Etude,
Where does your current information in your post come from?

If there were no relatives, listed, how do you know it is the correct man?

Trove holds obituaries and other notes about a man of the name who died in 1926

I offer this only as a possibility ;)

A very old resident of this district, Mr William Abbott, passed away at the Longreach Hospital on Monday last. Deceased was' 70 years of age, and had been employed at 'Strathdarr Station for the past thirty years. He was highly thought of by his employer'.

 Townsville Daily Bulletin (Qld. : 1885 - 1954) Wednesday 21 July 1926


Sue
Title: Re: ABBOTT, William, Winton, Queensland
Post by: Etude on Monday 22 April 13 00:41 BST (UK)
Thank you both for your replies.  We have been trying to track down this relation for many years and have recently received a copy of his death certificate confirming his parents but little else.  I have tried Trove but am a novice at getting around it.  On his death certificate it did not give an occupation.
We are thinking about going to Winton from South Australia but are looking at all leads before we set off.

Iris
Title: Re: ABBOTT, William, Winton, Queensland
Post by: sparrett on Monday 22 April 13 00:51 BST (UK)
You are the only one at this stage who knows his parents' names. ;D

On that basis, have you viewed the 1881 census and are you able to ascertain WILLIAM's occupation (aged about 14) and that of other family members ?

Sue
Title: Re: ABBOTT, William, Winton, Queensland
Post by: Etude on Monday 22 April 13 01:33 BST (UK)
Hi Sue, to fill in the gaps, his parents were John Abbott & Sarah (nee Hall).  They were on a family farm, Court Farm, Sub.Dist. Clutton, Bath & Wells, UK.  He was listed as a scholar, so being a farming family he would otherwise have been listed as a agr.labour I would think.  But it does not give us much to go on.  I won't expect he would have had a gravestone in Winton, but I was surprised he was of the Catholic faith.  Thank you for your interest.

Iris
Title: Re: ABBOTT, William, Winton, Queensland
Post by: giblet on Monday 22 April 13 01:43 BST (UK)
Burial

Section  OS
Cemetery WTC
Plot number  1058
Abbott William aged 70 years
Burial date 17 09  1939

There are a couple more Abbott's listed but i have no idea if they are your family or not.

http://www.winton.qld.gov.au/c/document_library/get_file?uuid=b9041ad8-f403-4c76-bf61-d2379da69805&groupId=12682
Title: Re: ABBOTT, William, Winton, Queensland
Post by: Etude on Monday 22 April 13 02:01 BST (UK)
Many thanks for the burial details, it is another box to complete.  It would be great to find out what he was doing in Winton.  On one of our trips we got as far as Longreach being completely unaware that we had a relation in Australia.

Iris
Title: Re: ABBOTT, William, Winton, Queensland
Post by: giblet on Monday 22 April 13 02:20 BST (UK)
Your welcome  :)

Besides him dying at the Winton Hospital does the cert. have a residential address for him?
Title: Re: ABBOTT, William, Winton, Queensland
Post by: Etude on Monday 22 April 13 02:42 BST (UK)
Only the hospital where he died, and he was only there 6 days by the look of the death certificate, only the medical attendant and matron appear on the form, so little to go on.  Perhaps he was just passing through, but having no know relations would they have to investigate further instead of burying him the next day.

Iris
Title: Re: ABBOTT, William, Winton, Queensland
Post by: Aussie1947 on Monday 22 April 13 06:54 BST (UK)
Hi,

The early Electoral Rolls have a couple of persons, William Abbott residing in the Blackall area for many years,  there was a William looks like married to Bridget residing in Woodbine St Blackall for a long time but your William was not married.

There was however another William Abbott in the Blackall area as well and he first qualified to be on the Queensland State Electoral Roll in 1893 residing at Malvern Hills which is a homestead out from Blackall, his occupation was labourer.  William Abbott is still residing at Malvern Hills in 1919 as a Station hand/labourer.

1922, 1925, 1930, 1934, 1936 and 1937 has a William Abbott, a Station Hand at nearby Lowanna Benlidi out from Blackall.

This William Abbott may have been your man, in Australian terms Blackall is in the same vicinity as Winton and it doesn't appear that there was a Mrs Abbot at these two resisiding places with William.  This William was employed as a labourer/station hand.

Regards
Gerry   



Title: Re: ABBOTT, William, Winton, Queensland
Post by: Etude on Monday 22 April 13 07:42 BST (UK)
Thanks Gerry for the detail you have sent.  It certainly seems a very good possibility as it appears William might have be a loner, like his two brothers, all on properties in difference countries but leading rather isolated lives.  Lets see what more we can discover.  Thanks again.

Iris
Title: Re: ABBOTT, William, Winton, Queensland
Post by: sparrett on Monday 22 April 13 07:46 BST (UK)
A legal notice calls for any having claims on the estate of WILLIAM ABBOTT and gives his former "address"-


WILLIAM ABBOTT, late of Range Downs, via Winton, who died on the 16th day of September, 1939. at Wlnton.

The Courier-Mail   Saturday 14 October 1939

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/40912582?searchTerm="William abbott" +blackall&searchLimits=


Sue
Title: Re: ABBOTT, William, Winton, Queensland
Post by: sparrett on Monday 22 April 13 08:03 BST (UK)
A possible help in locating Range Downs

http://www.wheelsonsteel.com.au/showthread.php?tid=6434

QUOTE
RE: QLD Where WAS is?
Hi Frank,

From my notes (some sources from Government Gazettes 1880s)

RANGE DOWNS (Central Line: Emerald-Taraborah) 171 miles from Rockhampton


End QUOTE
Title: Re: ABBOTT, William, Winton, Queensland
Post by: Etude on Monday 22 April 13 10:13 BST (UK)
Thank you Sue for all the scouting on my behalf.  It all fits, I am so impressed.  I don't think we are going to be able to squeeze out any more information regarding William.

Iris
Title: Re: ABBOTT, William, Winton, Queensland
Post by: TERESA denis on Wednesday 04 February 15 16:50 GMT (UK)
Hi we may be relate by Thomas Wyntonu or winton born 1535 in sussex I promise  I will
let you more. If I can help on the English side let me no

Kind Regards

Teresa
Title: Re: ABBOTT, William, Winton, Queensland
Post by: Dundee on Thursday 05 February 15 01:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Teresa,

This thread is about a man named William ABBOTT who died at a town called Winton in Queensland, Australia in 1939.

Debra  :)