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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: Humphpaul on Friday 19 April 13 18:28 BST (UK)
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I have just moved to some retirement flats in Deganwy, Llandudno which are in an old convalescent home for men. I have seen the plans drawn up in 1916 which show the above organisation as the intended owners.The name is Plas Mariandir and I think the building has been various institutions from the 1920s to 1987 when it was converted to flats.
I have just done the research out of habit and nosiness. Has anyone any interest or info.
Thanks Humphpaul
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I don't know about the convalescent homes Humphpaul, but I was a member of the 'Saturday Fund' for several few years through the company I was working for. Set up originally to help workers cover the cost of healthcare or a few pennies a week.
Later Healthsure and now Simply Health. Probably not quite as philanthropic as originally meant to be. The mighty Profit and all that!
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Google Docs has a piece from someone after whom a home was named - may be the predecessor home or the women's home though (shrunk link):
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0tlr/
Manchester University's catalogue has a mention under reference GB 133 MMC 8/26:
http://archives.li.man.ac.uk/ead/html/gb133mmc3-p24.shtml
Mention in the British Medical Journal of 1908 (perhaps a previous home) (PDF download)
http://europepmc.org/articles/PMC2437960/pdf/brmedj07985-0074.pdf
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To MSR and MSHRMH thanks for that great info. I have read the Swinglehurst document and if there is a reference to Plas Mariandir on the mug I would love a photo if possible. I would pay any cost of course. I would think Llandudno Archive Office would also make use of a photo whatever the name is.
I also have read the page from John Rylands Library which explains a lot. Any info. will be passed on to other residents here who are also interested in the buildings past. Thanks again Humphpaul
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I wonder if this is the correct one :-\
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Should have said. I found it on this site.
http://www.penmaenmawr.com/pages/Plas%20Mariandir%201922.html
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Dear MSR, It is not my Plas Mariandir but very interesting to find the same name elsewhere.
This one in Penmaenmawr has a bit on the towns history site as William Gladstone went there a lot. I will be going there soon to have a look to see if it is still there.
If you google 'flats for sale Deganwy' you will get a few estate agents photos of this building if you want. Cheers Humphpaul
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There were 2no Convalescence homes in Deganwy. The small one holdind about 20 patients was named Swinglehurst. I attended this one for 2 weeks in 1952 a second one was Plas Mariandir which held about 40 patients They were both run by the Manchester And Salford Hospital saturday Fund Both were extremely well run and the food was excellent A very happy time was had by all patients
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Dear Bill McHugh, Thanks for that interesting info. The place is now split into 30 flats and there are about 40 people here so you had lots of space. The main staircase is quite impressive with a lovely stained glass window at the top which might be an original feature. Cheers Humphpaul
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Are you still interested in this post? My father was injured in 1944 and spent some months at Plas Mariandir in Deganwy. I have a photo of him and other patients on the steps of the building. It must have been taken between 1944 and 1950. There was also another Hospital Saturday place in Arnside just outside the lake district, and my mother in law worked there. Small world. I would be interested in visiting Plas Mariandir and researching its history.
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Hello, yes still interested as still living here. I would be able to show you around the public rooms and gardens and my own flat (24) which is directly above the photo. My best days are Mon, Wed,Fri, Sat. Please let me know what you would like to do.Cheers Alan Williams, Humphpaul
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Hi Alan.
Sorry for the slow response.
Is this coming Monday 5 August convenient?
I can be there about 11am
Regards Eric
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Yes Monday is fine, see you then, Cheers Alan
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Cheers Alan. Look forward to seeing you.
Eric
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Hello Eric, I forgot to say that to get into here just come in the front porch and to your right is a board of numbers. Enter 2 and 4 and I should hear in my place and can then release the door. If you have any problem my phone is 01492 330472. Cheers Alan
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Alan
Thanks for your hospitality today. I enjoyed our chat.
I will send you any interesting snippets i find via email.
On that note i got it wrong!!!
Mine ends .com NOT .co.uk
Will fire an email off to you shortly.
Best regards Eric
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Hi, After searching the web I found your article on Plas Mariandir the reason for my search was that after my mother passed away I found two different photos of my grandfather with a group of men and nurses standing at the front of a building there are also some postcards of the same place Plas Mariandir, I don't know why he was there or what year it would have been but if you are interested in the photos and postcard I can email them to you.
Best regards
Steve
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Hi Steve. My father was injured in 1944 and spent some months at Plas Mariandir in Deganwy. I have a photo of him and other patients on the steps of the building and you should be able to see it on the original RootsChat . It must have been taken between 1944 and 1950. I am interested in the photos and post cards.
The Plas Mariandir building was built in 1935 as part of the Manchester and Salford Hospital Saturday Fund as a convalescent home, as there was no National Health Service at the time, and you paid a weekly subscription to be a member. I am assuming the military used it during and after WW2 for wounded soldiers etc, and this may be why your Grandfather was there.
Was your Grandfather from the Manchester area.
I guess from your Roots name you may be in Australia.
We visited Plas Mariaonly last week. It is in Deganwy near Llandudno, Wales.
I was shown round by Alan Williams, (Humphpaul on Roots) who now lives there as it has been converted into retirement homes.
I will message you my email address.
Regards Eric
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Steve has some great photos which he will put on later.
I found these the other day.
Eric
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My dad in the centre. He lost his left foot in WW2 and has an artificial leg . The chap on his right seems to have a similar walk to my dad and I think he may have an artificial right leg.
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Great Photos, hear are some I have.
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Photos courtesy of Aussie 1234
His Granddad is on the right
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Photo courtesy of Aussie 1234
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More Photos thanks to Eric for his help
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Last two.
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My Grandfather is in both group photos and I wonder if he was there on two separate times, he is also the one of the two men in the photo with the cars in the background, he is the one on the right and it looks like he is wearing the same suit in all photos, if anyone can tell me the year from the cars that would be great.
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The car with the CC registration plate in the photo with your Grandfather was registered in Caernarvonshire. As there was little motor car manufacture in the war years, the cars are likely to be 20's or 30's. Unfortunately this doesn't help you date the photo more accurately.
I am going to contact the Hospital Saturday Fund to see if they have any records of when Plas Mariandir may have been used in the war years. Eric