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Title: john thomas benjimin allder
Post by: badmog on Wednesday 17 April 13 18:19 BST (UK)
john thomas benjimin allder(his wife was born 1870, so am assuming he is about that date)he was born, hoxton,married in 1890 in rochdale lancashire,any help with his family please father mother siblings etc,thank you for looking :)
Title: Re: john thomas benjimin allder
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 17 April 13 18:25 BST (UK)
Have you got him in censuses after his marriage , if so what age is he then?  Better than 'assuming' !

Having said that - where did is place of birth come from if NOT from a later census?

Title: Re: john thomas benjimin allder
Post by: badmog on Wednesday 17 April 13 18:32 BST (UK)
1901 census
Title: Re: john thomas benjimin allder
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 17 April 13 18:33 BST (UK)
Previous thread


http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,643877.msg4906834.html#msg4906834

I guess that is where this info has come from. You could ave jst asked on there for how old he was on 1901.
But rather than confuse things, I'll have another look at 1901 and see if it says, and then can continue on here.
Title: Re: john thomas benjimin allder
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 17 April 13 18:36 BST (UK)
Ok, he is 38, wife Bertha  is 30
Rest of details on other thread
Title: Re: john thomas benjimin allder
Post by: badmog on Wednesday 17 April 13 18:40 BST (UK)
thank you
Title: Re: john thomas benjimin allder
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 17 April 13 18:44 BST (UK)
1891
5 Covendale place castleton

John thomas 28 Collier bn Oxton
Bertha 20 cotton operative bn Rochdale

Title: Re: john thomas benjimin allder
Post by: jan57 on Wednesday 17 April 13 18:48 BST (UK)
 This appears to be him  in 1871   living at 7 dennis Place  Shoreditch

 Edward Hil aged  32   Hawker 

Sarah Hill aged 31

 John  Aulder stepson  aged 11  born  Shoreditch   ( which  is not at all far from Hoxton )

William Aulder   stepson  aged 7

Title: Re: john thomas benjimin allder
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 17 April 13 18:49 BST (UK)
1881

RG11 4099 56 8

Butterworth, Lancs

Edward Hill  widower Warehouseman
Emma Alice Hill 9  dtr
James Alder  step son 19
William Alder step son 17


All bn London
Title: Re: john thomas benjimin allder
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 17 April 13 18:54 BST (UK)
1861
Queen Street, Hoxton

John Alder 31 chair maker bn Shoreditch
Sarah 21 bn Pancras
John  1 bn shorditch
Marion 1 mth bn shoreditch
Title: Re: john thomas benjimin allder
Post by: jan57 on Wednesday 17 April 13 18:57 BST (UK)
Sarah Alder   married  Edward  Hill June Qtr    1870  Bethnal  Green  RD

ref  1c 621 ( Free BMD)
Title: Re: john thomas benjimin allder
Post by: badmog on Wednesday 17 April 13 19:02 BST (UK)
thank you for all your help
Title: Re: john thomas benjimin allder
Post by: jan57 on Wednesday 17 April 13 19:14 BST (UK)
 Sarah's marriage  is on  Ancestry  LMA records  ,   married  14 June 1870   to  Edward  Hill

 father  is down  as Cornelius  Cummings Edwards  a bachelor   and Sarah  a widow


 As  a side note  ,  I  pricked my  ears up  on  seeing this thread  as  I  have  Alders in  my  tree ,   but they  were   from  North East ( way way  back) then  Cornwall, 
Title: Re: john thomas benjimin allder
Post by: badmog on Wednesday 17 April 13 19:50 BST (UK)
thank you very much again