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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Roxburghshire => Topic started by: Thisty on Wednesday 08 June 05 12:00 BST (UK)
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Looking for information about Robert Rae and Margaret Wright
Married 4 december 1868 in Jedburgh.
And their children:
Isabella Mary Ann 29/5/1869 - 14/12/1871
Margaret 23/3/1871
Elizabeth Wright 8/1/1873 - 10/6/1880
Jane 7/1/1875
Sarah 14/3/1877
Annie 28/4/1879
Alice Helen 24/3/1881
William 16/6/1883
Walter 26/6/1885
Robert 29/7/1887
Georgina 12/6/1889
Many thanks
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Hi Thisty,...I have found a ALICE HELEN RAE and she was born /or Chr March 24 1881 in Jedburgh,Rox Scot and her parents were Robert Rae and Margaret Wright.
I'll keep digging!! :)
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Many Thanks......Alice is my great grandmother. I managed to see Robert Rae's bible today and it seems that the list of children I originally posted above was inaccurate, I have amended that now to show the true names and dates of birth.
(I should really have realised that when my gt grandmother's name was not there).
Have also found out from the bible that Robert Rae was born 16/6/1847 and Margaret Wright 11/4/1849
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Hey...good for you on seeing the Bible and making the corrections real fast.
If at all possible you should try and get a photo-copy of the written info in the Bible,that way the Bible can still stay with whoever has it,BUT you have an exact copy for your records..I was going to ask you about the two entries of Isabel and Elizabeth born within 24 hours and then dying on the same day,did not seem right.Even for twins..Glad it is straight now..Good info on the birth of Robert Rae and his wife Margaret.
Were they both born in Jedburgh?
Were all the 11 children born in jedburgh?
I'll bet those folks are also buried in jedburgh.
You will be able to find this family on the 1871 census,the 1881 census and the 1891 census.
You should also be able to find Robert Rae on the 1851 census living with his parents,probably about age 4 years old.
Margaret should be with her parents aged about at either 1 or 2 years old.
You are on the right track...keep it up.Stay in touch!
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I struck lucky with the bible I have to admit, I always thought my grandfather's sister had it but on talking to my mother today she told me that in fact SHE had it.
Both Robert and Margaret were born in Jedburgh as were all the children. We THINK they moved to Hawick mid 1890's so both Robert and Margaret will be buried here, altho apparently my mother thinks they're gravestones were the victim of vandalism so we're not sure where.
I'll get looking into these census' as soon as I can.
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Do you have death dates for Robert Rae born 1847 and Margaret Wright born 1849 yet.....just to keep things up to date.
Any parents names yet for these two people?
Keep searching...you are doing well.
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No known parents for Robert Rae, Margaret Rae's parents MAY have been Walter Wright and Mary-Anne Chambers.
No death dates known as yet.
The only other clue we have is that My great grandmother (Alice Rae) claimed to be the seventh daughter of a seventh daughter. But we have yet to find any evidence of a Margaret Wright with 6 older sisters.
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The family could will be listed in the 1881 census and the 1891 census is also a real good bet.Is the 1901 census released in Scotland...if so...look on that too.As long as they keep appearing...great.Then when they do not...it narrows your search for their death down..
Looking at the childrens naming pattern,I too thought that Margarets father might be a Walter Wright.
Keep at it...
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ok just an update.
Robert Wrights parents were William Rae and Margaret Laurie, married 19/1/1844
Margaret Wright's father was definately Walter Wright altho going by her marriage certificate her mother appears to be an Isabella Bell (altho the writing is a bit hard to decipher)
I'm guessing that as her name was signed "Bell" that she was not married to Walter?
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Hi Thisty...by finding either the marr cert or death cert of Margaret (Wright) Rae,her parents names should be on them,as well as her mothers maiden name..
Margaret (Wright) Rae probably died between 1889 and 1939.
Scots GRO would have that info.Once you nail some of these death dates down ,you can then check for newspaper postings in the local papers.Your Library can advise you where these are held,probably on film or such.
Keep at it.
And Yes...any old WALDIE,KERSEL or Tinline is always appreciated,all from Hawick.
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;D
It seems as tho I have uncovered some scandal lol.
Walter Wright married Mary Anne Chambers in 1848, Margaret Wright was born in 1849.
However, Margaret Wrights mother (as stated on her marriage cert) was Isabella Bell ...no maiden name, just Isabella Bell, Domestic Servant.
It's certainly looking as tho Walter was a bit of a bad boy here.....I'm hoping he was to tell the truth, I always hoped to get some scandal in this family :D
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Hi Thisty...how is your research going...scandal...we all look for or have a wee bit I'm sure he he .....
Have you been able to get any more surnames?
If so ..let me know and I will check my M.I.s for you.
When you research could you keep in mind these few unusual names for me WALDIE,KERSEL,TINLINE,HUGGAN.
It is amazing,that with all my Scots research..I have NO mac's or Mc in my family so far.That always surprises.
Do you belong to any of the societies there?
Drop a line .
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Thisty...I found this in the unwanted section...it might be of some use at some time....
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Unwanted birth certificate:
William Wright, born March 21, 1884, Hawick, Rox.
Parents: John Wright and Catherine Wright
Married: 1891, Wilton, Rox.
DianeM
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Hi ajjbc, I have actually done far better than I ever thought I would as regards getting more names.
Robert Rae's parents were William Rae and Margaret Laurie, altho I've cpome to a bit of a standstill with THEIR parents names at the moment
I can't find any record of Isabella Bell (Margaret Wright's supposed biological mother).....or none that I know for a fact are the right one. Her father Walter's father was called James Wright and his mother Margaret Purdie.
I think I really need to have a look at some earlier census records for the area now to make more progress so as well as a good traipse round the graveyards I need to pay a visit to the records office in Selkirk but when I will get time to go is anyone's guess.
Rest assured tho, that when I DO go, I'm planning on staying all day so I'll more than happily look up anyone you are tracing whilst I'm there.
:)
P.S, I'm pretty sure that the Walter Wright above will be in my tree somewhere, it's just a case of finding out where lol
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Hows your tree hunting going?
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Standstill at the moment lol, once work decides to ease up on me a little bit I'll get that trip to Selkirk and round the graveyard.
:)
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Hi Thisty
My Great Grandfather was Robert Rae and married Margaret Wright on 4 Dec 1868.
He was a master slater/plumber and had 9 children Meg, Jean, Sarah, Annie, Alice, Georgina, William, Robert and Walter.
They lived in Jedburgh in Queen Street we think.
I have further information if you think these are the people you are searching for
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Thisty The records are not at Selkirk any longer they went to the Heritage hub at Hawick
alan
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Hi Xchilli, looks like we share some great grandparents :D
Would love to swap info with you if possible as I haven't done any family tree-ing for some time now. Which of Robert and Margaret's children are you descended from?
Thanks Alan, have been to the Hub and got a few newspapers clippings :D
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Hi Thisty
I am descended from Walter Rae. I put the message up because I have been looking for L who emigrated to Australia and have had no luck. If it is you I would love to make contact.
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Hi,
Sorry I haven't emigrated but I DO have an Australian husband and the initial "L" if that counts lol. I was in touch with one of Walter's Grandson's (through his son Robert) a few years ago but lost touch when I lost all my emails and contacts :(
Will pm you my email address :)
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Thanks L
Thought you were heading for Melbourne, my mistake.
Not sure how we exchange personal info, what does pm mean? If you can send me an email address that would be great. For the record I'm the one from Oz, N still lives in Kent.
All the best
IR
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Hi IR
PMs are personal messages, private and off the main boards. The best (only ::)) way to exchange personal emails here on RC. Just click on the small green scroll under Thisty username on the l/h side. This takes you straight through and works very much like all email services with in/outboxes.
Monica :)
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Thank you Monica
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Hi,
Haven’t doing any family tree-Blimey for a good few years but picking it up again and thought id have another go at breaking my biggest/most annoying brick wall. I did post this a few years ago so apologies if it’s not allowed.
So please bear with me as this is a bit complicated lol.
My Gtgt Grandmother was Margaret Rae nee Wright born 1849 in Jedburgh, parents Walter Purdie Wright and Mary-Anne Chambers ..... so we thought!
My problems begin with the fact I cannot find Margaret on any census before 1871 by which time she was married. 1851 she is not in the same household as her parents where you would expect a 2 year old to be (there is a Margaret BELL but aged 11) neither is she in the house in 1861 despite both her her brother and sister being present.
Margaret’s marriage and death certificates both give Walter Wright as her father but the marriage certificate gives her mother’s name as Isabella Bell!
Margaret followed a seemingly very traditional naming pattern for her own children and her first daughter was called ..... Isabella Mary-Anne.
My mum remembered her grandmother (Margaret’s daughter) day that Margaret was from Lanton ... I have only ever found Walter in Jedburgh and no link to Lanton at all.
I have sooo many questions. Who is Isabella? Is Walter really her biological father? Did he cheat on Mary-Anne? Did they adopt Margaret? Who actually IS my gtgt grandmother?? What is the link to Lanton??
Can anyone help put me out of my misery?
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On the 1851 Census for Jedburgh there is a Margaret Bell visiting a Walter Wright (tailor) and his wife Mary Ann Wright, there is also a son James. Is that who you are looking for?
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Hi Crumbliest,
Thanks for the reply. Yes this is definitely the right family but my issue with this one is my Margaret should only be 2 years old in 1851 not 11. It’s such a massive coincidence tho to have a Margaret Bell in the house .... in fact the entire family next door are Bells and yes there IS a 2 year old Margaret but her mother seems to called Helen.
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Here is the link to the other thread
Merged.
Thisty, you can re-activate any old topic by simply replying to it with an update and they come back upto the top again ;)
Regards
Sarah
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Thanks Sarah, if you’d prefer to delete this one I can bring the original back 👍
Threads merged. :)
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Thanks for merging Sarah :)
Quick update, the 2 year old Margaret Bell in the next household is definitely not my Margaret as I tracked down her death certificate. Still no further in solving this one .... anyone have any ideas where I can look now?