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Title: Thomas ands Caroline SCUDMORE
Post by: Sarah23 on Wednesday 10 April 13 13:41 BST (UK)
Hello, I am trying to trace Thomas Scudamore born 1787 d 1874 from Swainswick Bath.  I think his wife was called Martha.  It is believed he had a daughter called Caroline and she married James Collins from Twerton and had many children.  I cannot seem to find her on any census apart from 1841 in Gay Street Bath.  I cannot find a connection to thomas.   also would like to know when she died.
Many Thanks
Sarah
Title: Re: Thomas ands Caroline Scudmore
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 10 April 13 14:06 BST (UK)
Here is her marriage (I think!):

March qtr 1849
Bath district    vol 11, page 29

Scudamore, Caroline
+ and on the same page +
Collins, James


Confirmed on BathBMD.org.uk
1849 at St Mary, Swainswick
Caroline Scudamore to James Collins


On the 1841 census, it looks like Caroline is at school?
There is a schoolmistress and a teacher, and a number of children.
Title: Re: Thomas ands Caroline Scudmore
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 10 April 13 14:13 BST (UK)
1851 census:
Reference HO107, Piece 1944, Folio 538, Page 25
Newton St Loe, Somerset

Collins, James  Head  M  25  Miller Employing 5 men  b Twerton, Somerset
Collins, Caroline  Wife  F  28  b Swainswick
+ housemaid & mill labourer


And there are some possibilities re deaths:
1855 at Twerton, James Collins, age 28
1858 at Newton Keynsham, Caroline Collins, age 36

(Found on BathBMD)
Title: Re: Thomas ands Caroline Scudmore
Post by: Sarah23 on Wednesday 10 April 13 16:06 BST (UK)
Many Thanks I will take a look
Sarah
Title: Re: Thomas ands Caroline Scudmore
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Wednesday 10 April 13 16:19 BST (UK)
You said you could not find a connection to Thomas - Familysearch has a christening on a Caroline, daughter of Thomas & Martha in Swainswick on 16 Sept 1821

Link is https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N182-SHW  ((but not working at present)
Title: Re: Thomas ands Caroline Scudmore
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Wednesday 10 April 13 16:44 BST (UK)
Also not sure the death mentioned previously is your James, as there's a James Collins, Miller, b Twerton c 1826 in Newton St Loe on 1871, and Lyncombe in 81 & 91. He is a widower with children

Ada b c1851
John b c1852
Nora b c1853
Edwin b c1854
Blanch b c1857
Caroline b c1858

On 1871, Ada & Ccaroline are with their grandfather Thomas Scudamore
Title: Re: Thomas ands Caroline Scudmore
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 10 April 13 16:50 BST (UK)
Ah well! :-[
I did say they were possibilities! And the ages were about right!! ;D
Title: Re: Thomas ands Caroline Scudmore
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Wednesday 10 April 13 16:54 BST (UK)
Just to make it even more of a link - 1861 has them in Twerton with Thomas Scudamore (b batheaston 1793, retired miller) & wife Martha (b Bath 1802)
Title: Re: Thomas ands Caroline Scudmore
Post by: Sarah23 on Wednesday 10 April 13 16:59 BST (UK)
Hello, yes thats them, thank you all
Sarah
Title: Re: Thomas ands Caroline Scudmore
Post by: DRH123 on Wednesday 10 April 13 21:16 BST (UK)
Just to make it even more of a link - 1861 has them in Twerton with Thomas Scudamore (b batheaston 1793, retired miller) & wife Martha (b Bath 1802)

or you could just look at the marriage record to see the fathers

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Marriages&RecordID=3153567

David
Title: Re: Thomas ands Caroline Scudmore
Post by: Dave Jones on Friday 12 April 13 13:50 BST (UK)
Martha, aged 64, wife of Thomas Scudamore, died 26th August 1866 , at 10, Lambridge Place, Larkhall, Bath.

Thomas Scudamore died 9th December 1874 at the same address. His will was proved by James Collins, of Newton Mill, Newton, St Loe, Somerset, and John James Scudamore Collins (Grandson) of Newton St Loe, millers.

The household goods of Thomas Scudamore deceased, of the same address, were advertised for sale on 21st January 1875.
Title: Re: Thomas ands Caroline Scudmore
Post by: Dave Jones on Friday 12 April 13 14:25 BST (UK)
April 1849 Marriage  - At Swainswick Church , James Collins, of Newton St Loe, to Caroline, eldest daughter of Thomas Scudamore, of Dead Mill.

Martha, daughter of Thomas Scudamore, of Dead Mills, Swainswick, died 13th July 1850, aged seven years and five months.
Title: Re: Thomas ands Caroline Scudmore
Post by: Sarah23 on Friday 12 April 13 14:40 BST (UK)
Hello Dave I was not aware of them having another daughter called Martha.  I have look on freereg.org.uk and I have found a Thomas born to the couple baptised 10 May 1829 but cannot find a death or marriage.  It is interesting that you mention Dead Mills as there was a legal dispute over this and other properties which hit the papers.  I am not sure  who inherited but going further back Thomas' father owned it, there was also 2 older brothers John Griffin and Paul but not sure on their entitlement.
Many Thanks for the information certainly an interesting family
Sarah