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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Armagh => Topic started by: george82 on Tuesday 09 April 13 10:16 BST (UK)
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Hi this is my first post and im hoping someone will be able to help me with my search.
Im looking for info on the rountree family from armagh. My great grandfather was john rountree married to annie moore 1905, they had three children. John had 2 sisters called anna rebecca who is on the 1911 census and sarah who was on the 1901 census but not 1911, I can't seem to find anything about her. Johns mother was called eliza, im not sure of her maiden name and I can't find out his fathers name as she was already a widow in 1901 age 52. This is all new to me and any help would be greatly appreciated
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For reference, here are the Rountree family in 1901 census-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Portadown_Urban/Bridge_Street/1028850
I don't see John with his family in 1911 at the moment but here's mother Eliza with daughter Anna Rebecca-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Portadown_Urban/Bridge_Street/299321
Annie Rebecca Rountree married in 1911 after the census-
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FY6L-MWB
Possible birth registration (as Rebecca) gives parents as Thomas Charles Rountree & Eliza Steinson-
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FPRB-XG8
If the birth for Rebecca is correct then other children are-
Thomas Charles (1873) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGR9-2LD (mother Stimson)
John James (1878) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FG67-R5Q (mother Stevenson)
Note: Steinson, Stimson, Stevenson are all variations of the same surname.
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Thank u for your reply. I came across john rountree in 1911 census under rowntree. His 2 sons, my fathers uncles are on it as well. The sister sarah in 1901 census I can't find again or a birth date for her. I found a birth for mary elizabeth parents thomas roundtree and eliza stevenson 1875 but nothing after that
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Link to John Rowntree in 1911 census-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Brootally/Tirearly/330738
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Thank you, that is the one I found as well
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My great-grandfather was James Reynolds and on his marriage certificate (he was married on 7 May 1903) his father is listed as George Rountree, a Labourer, from Derryloughran, Loughgall.
Does any one have any information on George Rountree?
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You could try
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
you have the Marriage Cert so enter that District in Search box too
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Had to go looking for what you are talking about as no Link was posted for it, I think this is it.....
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You can try http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/ just put Name in and County
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1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Loughgall/Derryloughan/327532/
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Loughgall/Derryloughan/1015855/
The marriage doesn't say if George is living or not but as he has a different surname from James and Annie I guess the question is did George die and Annie remarry with James using her new husbands name or was Annie unmarried when James was born? In which case is Reynolds her maiden name and widow is a fib or was Rountree her name and George is a fiction or was it something else entirely?
Need to look for a birth for James and a marriage for Annie.
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James Reynolds was my granny's father. He was illegitimate and there is no father's name on his birth certificate.
On his marriage certificate his father is listed as George Rountree, Labourer, and is from the same area as my granny's family - Derryloughran, Loughgall.
James was born in 1876 and was married in 1903. There doesn't seem to be any George Rountree prior to the 1880's listed online.
I'm not sure if he is his father? Annie Reynolds, James' mother, never married.
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Susan Jane is my granny.
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So it looks like George is his father and James was always aware of this but trying to find what became of George or even where he was from might be impossible.
James' baptism might be some help.
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Thank you - they were two different religions (Annie Reynolds and James - Catholic / George Rountree - Protestant) and that was quite a big thing in Loughgall, Northern Ireland, at that time.
This is the first I have seen that he had a father. My granny always said her father was illegitimate so she maybe didn't know?
Thank you though for all your help.
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I see 1876 is missing from the parish records
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0223
I guess you just have to assume James knew his father's name, usually when someone makes up a father they don't give a different surname so you'd be more inclined in this case to think he was saying what he believed was true.
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that's interesting to know. I wonder what more I can find out?
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What Religion and Birth county does George Rountree give on Census?
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There is a George Rountree in the same general area as Derryloughan of a similar age to Annie
Could be a possible
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Richhill/Mulladry/1018868/
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Thank you! Will take a look
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This thread may give more info on the Rountrees from Loughgall....--> https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=374135.msg5298736#msg5298736
Back in the 60`s/70`s a Florence (Flossie) Rountree used to visit us, she was a work friend of my mothers, she lived in the house beside the Orange Hall in Loughgall.