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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: elainebooth on Saturday 06 April 13 02:17 BST (UK)
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I need to have someone go to the Tong Parish Cemetery at St. James Church and search for any "monuments" or Tombstones, that are still readable (if only partially) that has the surnames of Booth, Oddy, & Stead written on them. I have the Parish records showing burials for many of these family members in the 1700's and 1800's. But other information is missing (such as birth date) and family groups. I would like to know who might be buried next to who. I would like pictures of the stones as well.
Are there sextant records separate from the Parish records for this Cemetery?
I live in the United States and have searched books and microfilms available here for Monument stones and transcripts - no luck. I cannot make a trip to England to do this research. :'(
I am willing to pay reasonable fees for results :)
Elaine
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As a regular visitor to Tong village at present there is the remnants of the recent snow fall there.
Beginning of the week there was about 12-18inches of snow covering the graves.
(I use a nice restaurant there)
So getting there is no problem for me.
Regards Brian
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Good morning Brian,
If you want a hand to search St James's churchyard I'm willing to assist you. We could also ask Lynnie if she has photographed this churchyard already.
Ian
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Wouldn't do any harm asking Ian.
Still snow covering gravestones, the horizontal ones.
Brian
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I'll send Lynn an email re St James. In the meantime Elaine there are 2 photo's of Oddy graves at St Michael and All Angels, Farnley and there are 708 photos taken in Farnley Cemetery, which is a mile or so from St James's.
These photos can be viewed at www.yorkshireindexers.co.uk/gallery
The two Oddy's mentioned are John, Mary and John Holdsworth Oddy.
George and Sarah Lawson, Edward and Benjamin Oddy
Ian
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Thank-you for all the help offered on the St. James Parish Cemetery in Tong. :)
I will be paying close attention to what you find.
I went to the http://www.yorkshireindexers.co.uk/gallery/ and need to figure out how to register.
I see there was a Harriett Booth at Tong Cemetery, listed in the pictures at the top. I have not found a Harriet Booth that belongs to us. Maybe this was a married name. The picture was too small to save an image that was readable. Maybe if I register, I can grab a larger image and search for the two Oddys. I will try some more and get back to you all.
Samuel Oddy (Blacksmith) and wife Martha Hargreaves were both born and buried in Tong - I have the parish records - but no graves. John Booth and Martha Oddy had several children who are also buried in the parish graveyard, but would like to know if there are stones. Some where children.
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I registered on the Yorksire website and viewed all of the stones you mentioned no one matches our Booth family as we know it. I will try to attach a Gedcom file to this that give the Family members as far back as we can find.
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Hi Elaine and Brian,
I emailed lynnie and she has replied that photos have been taken in Tong Churchyard and Tong Cemetery but these have not yet been uploaded onto the YI site. Lynn also says she thinks there are a few Oddy's in Pudsey Cemetery also.
As you have given us some specific names and more on your tree, which will take some time to look at, I'll ask Lynn if she has those names.
Ian
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Elaine: Just had a look at www.calverleyinfo.com
Vital Records Search - Just enter 'surname' of person who you want to locate plus event baptism/marriage or death in the drop down menu.
As an example Betty Oddy (daughter of Richard blacksmith) buried 1745 -12-29. Buried at Tong.
So you see they aren't lost!
Brian
Personal message sent to Elaine asked for a list of who she wants chasing up!
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Hi Elaine,
Lynn has so far found the following in Tong churchyard from a quick search of her photos:
Richard Oddy b. 11/8/1832 died 15/12/1897 and his wife Jane b. 12/6/1836 died 19/11/1912.
Ellen Oddy died 20/9/1964 age 70.
Sarah daughter of Richard & Hannah Oddy died 13/7/1796 age 2y 6m and Hannah died 25/5/1810 age 46.
Joseph Booth son-in-law of Stephen & Ann Hardy of North Bierley and his wife Rhoda Booth nee Hardy.
Daniel Oddy died 11/5/1871 age 44.
Ian
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I appreciate the Picture searches for my names. :)
We have a Richard Oddy, but much earlier than 1882 and also earlier than Richard & Hannah. I have not found these connected directly to my tree. Richard and wife Hannah could be a son of my Richard Odd - But I do not have enough information, this is why I need these kind of pieces that can only be found at the Stones.
I will attach some .pdf files of my Family Group Sheets for Tong that can be used as lists of who I am looking for. John Booth died 1795 birth and parents unknown who married Martha Oddy is the main goal for this search. The parish record would indicate he (and assume at least his wife and some of his children) are buried there. He was a Blacksmith. I would imagine he is buried close to his wife's parents - Samuel (also a blacksmith) and Martha Hargraves Oddy. John Booth's son moved to Holme after he married, but he is definitely buried in the St. James Churchyard in Tong Village.
I am really impressed with the photos and descriptions of monuments that have been loaded onto the Yorkshire site. Please pass this on to Lynne and others who supply the photos. This is an important work for those of us who cannot get to the cemeteries ourselves. :)
I really appreciate your willingness to help those of us outside the British Isles. My husband's father (Cyril) born in Bramley, came over to the US when he was 6 years old with his mother, to meet his father (Jabez) who was already here. (Found them in Ellis Island Records). Jabez's father is the Charles Stead Booth in the FGSs.
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Two more FGS Attachments: Thank-you again.
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The list of people buried at Tong together with personal information can be seen here:
http://www.tong.calverley.info/
Choice of looking through the 'years' or by entering a surname search using the database.
Brian
(I have downloaded and printed out your supplied information)
Betty Booth burial year is given as 1794 according to records.
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There is a photo of the Charles Stead Booth and Rachel monument on the YI site. New Wortley Cemetery, consecrated grave 4392. Photo taken by Lynnie.
That's one for your collection.
Ian
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Elaine: Question for you re baptism records Farnley.
I have located a number of Booth's in 1860's - John Booth (blacksmith) and Elizabeth then Hannah children of both.
Are these part of your family group?
http://www.calverleyinfo.com/farn_bap_3.htm
Brian
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1860??? (1760's, is a better match for what I know) John Booth (blacksmith) and Elizabeth then Hannah children of both - Could very well be a descendant of my family that I do not yet know about it. I am not sure where it would fit it in. I have not yet found a Hannah that fits as a daughter to a Booth in my family. Was the 1860' for deaths? ???
I will find the YI site for Charles and Rachel Booth, New Wortley Cemetery, consecrated grave 4392a real find for us - this is the direct line - son of William and father of George Stead Booth - We did not have the death date on Rachel. Thank-you :) :)
This help from all of you is much appreciated!!!!!! :)
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Just a short info message Elaine: Personal message received, will pass onto pjs12 (Ian) your e mail address so Ian can forward anything he manages to locate.
Regards Brian
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Elaine: Update to last message.
I have been unable to locate a grave stone for your John Booth and his wife.
After speaking to a member of a local history society, he believes that he may have more information at home.
E mail sent confirming the information required to my new contact, awaiting a reply.
Brian
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Thank-you for continuing to hunt for my John Booth. All help is REALLY appreciated!!! Hope your friend can find something at home.
Elaine
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Elaine, whilst researching a 3D model I created the other day, I happened on this thread. This is the "Charles Stead Booth" memorial in St James Church yard. I've also created another 3D model of the monument lid, which makes some of the inscription easier to read. Unfortunately, there's been some delamination and not all the inscription can be read though. I can make out the dates 1790 and 1800, the names William and Mary.
https://skfb.ly/T76G
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Hi Rockrich and welcome to Rootschat...Elaine hasn't been on Rootschat since July last year but you may get lucky and get a response.
Do stick around though and enjoy the fun ;D
Carol
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Thanks for the warm welcome Carol. I noticed Elaine hadn't been on in a while, hopefully she'll have email notifications turned on :)
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Somewhere I have Elaine's private e mail address!
I went with Elaine to Tong whilst she and her family were over, the grave you indicated I wove a bit of magic on it prior to being photographed. :)
[Arkansas sand heat dried was used, very fine sand a bit like brown salt, sprinkled over which bring out all the inscription on the face]
All remains brushed off on completion!
Brian
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Thanks Brian. Glad you were able to read the inscription....I've used a similar method with snow when trying to work out motifs on prehistoric rock art :)
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We had an opportunity to visit several Cemeteries in the area in August 2015. I was able to see and photo grave the stones for Charles Stead Booth and Family. I agree The Tong stone is unreadable.
What you have is the stone for William & Mary Booth, parents of Charles Stead Booth, William Booth and Mary Booth. Both parents and the children William and Mary are buried there - see reference and original transcription from 1928 below. Son Charles Stead Booth and his family are buried in the New Wortley Cemetery.: West Yorkshire, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1985, born abt 1812 age 74, burial date 7 June 1886, parish of New Wortley, West Yorkshire, England Plot #4392 with wife Rachel. New Wortley Cemetery, New Wortley, Leeds, West Riding, Yorkshire, England, photo found on http://www.yorkshireindexers.co.uk - gallery, monuments
Description for New Wortley Cemetery - Grave No.4392 Consecrated
"In Loving Memory of / CHARLES STEAD BOOTH / who died June 4th 1886 / aged 74 years / also of RACHEL, Wife of theabove / who died July 25th 1887 / aged 71 years / The memory of the just is blessed."
Charles Stead Booth
in the West Yorkshire, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1985 page 254.
Report issue: Name: Charles Stead Booth
Birth Year: abt 1812
Parish: Holbeck, St Matthew and New Wortley, St John the Baptist
Burial Date: 7 Jun 1886
Burial Age: 74
West Yorkshire Archive Service; Wakefield, Yorkshire, England; Yorkshire Parish Records; New Reference Number: RDP42/167
Source Information
Ancestry.com. West Yorkshire, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1985 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.
Original data: Yorkshire Parish Records. Leeds, England: West Yorkshire Archive Service.
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The Inscriptions on the Monumental Stones in Tong Churchyard near Bradford, Yorkshire. Compiled by A. Blackburn in Fall of 1928. page 44.
"Booth,
In memory of William, Son of William and Mary Booth of Holme, for the Lordship of Ton who departed this life the 4th day of February 1924 in the 14th year of his age. Also in memory of the above mentioned William Booth who departed this life the 31 day of October 1861 aged 75 years. Also of Mary Wife of the said William Booth who departed this life April 5th 1863 aged 76 years. Also of Mary daughter of the above who died January 3, 1888 aged 68 years."
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It looks to be a different inscription. The dates on this appear to be 1790 and 1800, there's also clear mention of pudsey.
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I Found it!.
The Inscriptions on the Monumental Stones in Tong Churchyard near Bradford, Yorkshire. Compiled by A. Blackburn in Fall of 1928. page 80
TOWN,
Grave #146- In memory of MARY the wife of JOSHUA TOWN of Pudsey wHo died the 1st day of February 1790 in the 53rd year of her age. "Go home dear friends pray cease from fears, I must lie here, till Christ appears. And when He doth I hope to have A happy rising from the Grave".
Also in memory of WILLIAM TOWN of Pudsey, son of the above said Mary Town who departed this life the 14th day of January 1800 in the 4th year of his age.
In memory of WILLIAM BOOTH son of CHARLES STEAD AND RACHEL BOOTH of Tong Street who departed this life the 30th day of March 1855 age 20 years. Also RICHARD BOOTH son of the above who died 1858. (Charles Stead Booth Owner).
Note:Burial Records for St. James Church, Tong.
Source Tong St James Parish Church
First Name Richard
Surname BOOTH
Abode Tong Street
Date Buried 1858 06 26
Age 11
Entry 1386
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That's the one :) If the inscription has been worked / added to a few times, that might account for the condition of the stone and delamination. Limestone looks great, but is susceptible to fracturing, erosion
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I have no clue as to the relationship between Mary and Joseph Town and Charles Stead Booth (my husband's great-great-grandfather) Charles is the owner and buried two young children in the plot and added them to the stone marker. Was there a policy that someone could "take over a forgotten stone or plot" and pay to become the owner and use it? Or was there usually a relationship? Mary and Joseph Town died before Charles Stead Booth was even born in 1811. This stone is not located near other family members. Appreciate your help with my questions.
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I can't help any further, sorry Elaine. My expertise / knowledge disappears after the 3D model is made. Hope you find the answers you're after.
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Thank you. I am interested in any other 3D images you have from the St. James cemetery in Tong with the names Booth, Stead, or Oddy. Thank-you for having such a special talent.
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Hello Elaine, thanks for your kind words. That's the only one I've done in churchyard. I was just passing the church, saw the stocks outside and then wandered in. I'm sure I'll be visiting again to model the stocks, and I'll keep an eye for other graves.
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Something wrong with that Blackburn transcription. If Mary died 1790, she couldn't have a son aged four in 1800.
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''Also in memory of WILLIAM TOWN of Pudsey, son of the above said Mary Town who departed this life the 14th day of January 1800 in the 4th year of his age.''
Looking for the above burial entry to confirm, sorry to say unable to confirm!
Brian
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Re: Monuments in Tong, Yorkshire England
« Reply #26 on: Monday 19 September 16 19:33 BST (UK) »
Quote: (from me)
I Found it!.
The Inscriptions on the Monumental Stones in Tong Churchyard near Bradford, Yorkshire. Compiled by A. Blackburn in Fall of 1928. page 80
TOWN,
Grave #146- In memory of MARY the wife of JOSHUA TOWN of Pudsey who died the 1st day of February 1790 in the 53rd year of her age. "Go home dear friends pray cease from fears, I must lie here, till Christ appears. And when He doth I hope to have A happy rising from the Grave".
Also in memory of WILLIAM TOWN of Pudsey, son of the above said Mary Town who departed this life the 14th day of January 1800 in the 4th year of his age.
In memory of WILLIAM BOOTH son of CHARLES STEAD AND RACHEL BOOTH of Tong Street who departed this life the 30th day of March 1855 age 20 years. Also RICHARD BOOTH son of the above [Charles and Rachel] who died 1858. (Charles Stead Booth Owner).
[Note:Burial Records for St. James Church, Tong.
Source Tong St James Parish Church
First Name Richard
Surname BOOTH
Abode Tong Street
Date Buried 1858 06 26
Age 11
Entry 1386]
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Mary And Joshua Town are, or their supposed son William are listed. Your correct that the dates seem off for the family.
Joshua Town md Mrs. Mary Beaumont (widow) in Calvary 17 March 1778.
Joshua Town b 1728 married Mrs. Mary Beamont a widow on 17 March 1778 in Calverley, St. Wilfrid Source Citation [West Yorkshire Archive Service; Wakefield, Yorkshire, England; Yorkshire Parish Records; New Reference Number: WDP17/3/3].
Mary was born Mary STEAD 1738 in Mirfield, Yorkshire to William Stead and Jane Buckley
Mary married George Beamont 17 Aug 1767 in Calverley, Yorkshire, England. ["England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N2FB-W8Q : 10 December 2014), Georg Beamont and Mary Stead, 17 Aug 1767; citing Calverley, Yorkshire, England, reference ; FHL microfilm 990,547.]
Mary died 1 Feb 1790 in Yorkshire, according to the gravestone inscription. [have not found a death record for Mary or William.]
Find it interesting that that my ancestor is Charles Stead Booth and Rachel Booth (the owner of the plot and father of the children William and Richard Booth who are buried there). Charles was born in 1811, after the Town family died.
Charles Stead Booth's mother was Mary Ann Elizabeth Stead born 1787
Mary Ann’s father is Robert Stead born 1758 in Tong
Robert’s father is Charles Stead b abt 1716 in Tong
Mary Stead is not listed in any of these families, so her Relationship to my Charles Stead Booth is still unknown.
I am very interested in any information found on this family.