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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: celia on Tuesday 07 June 05 18:55 BST (UK)
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Hi
My G.G Grandfather Richard McCloy died in 1888 and is Buried in The Necropolis Cemetery.Along with his Parents Alexander McCloy and Mother Ann (Wallace) McCloy.Other family are buried there to. I came across a website of this cemetery some time ago. If i remember rightly it stated that M.I's. were available and that there was a charge for these.(Can i charge for mine ;D I lost the site address does anyone know it please ???
Celia
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Try this it may not be the site you were looking for but its the official contact address for the necropolis
Further information can be obtained from:
Cemeteries & Crematoria Registrar
20 Trongate
Glasgow
G1 5ES
Phone:0141 287 3961
E-mail: land@glasgow.gov.uk
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Thank you Falkyrn
will try that one when i come back
Celia
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Hi there,
Just a couple of points on this...
Do you know which necropolis he is buried in for definite? The Glasgow Necropolis is the one usually referred to as just 'the necropolis', which is beside the Cathedral, but there are 3 others: the Eastern Necropolis, the Western Necropolis and the Southern Necropolis. So if you can't find him in the first, it may well be that he is in a different one.
Secondly, the address you have been given is for Glasgow City Council, who I believe will charge heavily for doing any work and having to search if you don't know the exact location and reference for the grave you are looking for.
You might be better getting in touch with the Glasgow and West of Scotland FHS in the first instance, who are working on transcribing some of the inscriptions of Glasgow burial grounds at the moment, to see what info they can give you.
http://www.gwsfhs.org.uk/
Cheers,
Clare
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Secondly, the address you have been given is for Glasgow City Council, who I believe will charge heavily for doing any work and having to search if you don't know the exact location and reference for the grave you are looking for.
Possible but not absolutely certain .... I have always found the staff helpful and the charges reasonable ..... but then again I knew which cemetary.
You might be better getting in touch with the Glasgow and West of Scotland FHS in the first instance, who are working on transcribing some of the inscriptions of Glasgow burial grounds at the moment, to see what info they can give you.
http://www.gwsfhs.org.uk/
The gwsfhs state that research assistance is for members only, although as one of their projects they are undertaking the task of transcribing and recording the MI's ..... this information may be available seperately.
However a valid point is made regarding the term necropolis
The southern Necropolis http://www.southernnecropolis.com/
and for more general information regarding the Glasgow Graveyards http://www.theglasgowstory.com/story.php?id=TGSDF04
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Hi there,
Valid point on the Council - I have never used them - but then was warned about the charging level from the lecturer on my family history course a couple of years back. He is working on the transcriptions for the MIs for GWSFHS, which I also how I know that they are working on that.
Cheers,
Clare
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;D The trouble with this "hobby" is the expense and what is reasonable to one person may be extortionate to another ..... I suppose it depends on how much you want that elusive piece of the jigsaw.
That said some council charges can be high and I think you made a very valid overall point that simply because something is suggested or recommended here in Rootschat one shouldn't believe that it is the only or even the cheapest option.
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Hi there,
I know what you mean about the expense. I had a look on scotlandspeople at the amount of images I have viewed - and I shudder to think how many credits (and pounds) it has cost me over the past 3 years.
For this kind of thing, I have personally found it better value to try and get a copy of MIs for a cemetery (if they exist) as then you can refer to this many times over for only one cost. But I fear that we are drifting way off topic here! ;D
Clare
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Hi
I am out of the country at the moment will reply when i return.
Celia
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Hi everyone sorry for the delay
I do know the necropolic is in three sections but my information doesn't say which part.I did contact there website last year to inquire about M.I,s and was told about a charge for the service.As far as i can remember thats as far as it got they never offered any other info. I then tried another address but got no responce.Trying to do research in Scotland and the city of London is expensive in most cases but i think thats because in between Scotland and London itself. Their are more volunteers in F.H.S.Who do M.I's of their local cemeteries in book form. These are then given to libraries where burials can be looked up, for free. I use them often if i think the burial might be in a certain churchyard.Then of course we have all these wonderfull genealogy websits and wonderful people to offer help and advice and send us the information we want. Over the year's it has cost me a few hundred pounds for information.Reading between the lines on some Topics.I get the impression that some people want to do a family tree free of charge. Unfortunately thats not possible in some cases. I could go to Glasgow (not that far for me) to find what i want, but it cost £100 train fare then you have accommodation to pay. So i for one wouldn't complain about a one off cost for research fee's but i would realy have to want that information to pay it ;D
Celia
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Expense is indeed relative, but, if my memory is correct, the charges that might be made by Glasgow City Council Cems and Crems would be a lot more than the ca. £16 annual subscription to G&WSFHS.
The following is taken from GENUKI....
The Glasgow and Family History Room at the Mitchell Library holds the records of some twenty Glasgow cemeteries covering the period from the 18th century to the 1950's. There are a few also in the Glasgow City Archives (also at the Mitchell), as well as lair plans and registers of burials in intra-mural burial grounds from 1870 to 1950. Records are arranged in chronological order and there are no indexes! A comprehensive listing, including location of registers and monumental inscriptions can be found in:- Burial Grounds of Glasgow: a brief guide for the genealogist by J Willing and J S Fairie - published by the Glasgow & West of Scotland Family History Society 2nd Revised Edition published in 1997.
Additional cemetery registers for Glasgow are kept by:- Cemeteries and Crematoria Section, Parks Department, City of Glasgow Council, 2 Port Dundas Place, GLASGOW G2 3LB (telephone 0141-333 0800)
In addition there are substantial records from Glasgow's largest funeral director, Wylie & Lochhead, which have been deposited with Glasgow University Archives.
It's some years since I was in contact with them, at which point the charge was £15/hour for GU Archives to consult their records.
ibi
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Although this thread is about 5 years old, the charge for a look at the records of The Eastern Necropolis etc is 60 odd quid!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A rip off, how low will Glasgow City Council stoop to get cash!! If I go to South Lanarkshire's equivalent, not only are you allowed to see the ledgers(give notice) but you may also be offered a cup of Tea!!!!
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Folks, £60 is the figure I heard. Good post ibi, I would like info' on rellies in Springburn around 1900 who I would suspect are buried in Sighthill Cemetery, the Glasgow FHS looks like the best bet!....Skoosh.
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Folks, £60 is the figure I heard. Good post ibi, I would like info' on rellies in Springburn around 1900 who I would suspect are buried in Sighthill Cemetery, the Glasgow FHS looks like the best bet!....Skoosh.
If you have a look at
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,445152.msg3079016.html#msg3079016
The LDS have microfilmed many of the Glasgow records and these can be ordered for viewing at any of their Family History Centres
For example for Sighthill they have the records from 1850 to 1995
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Just by co-incidence, I was looking at the Sighthill Burial Records (on film) today at the Mitchell Library.
I was searching for a burial during the late 1880's but had to give up as most pages were impossible to read. It doesn't help that they are in 'negative' format either. I don't know whether these will be the same films as LDS have - possibly are, but with a bit of luck any films ordered might be a bit more legible.
Anne
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Thanks Falkryn, much here to think about! brill....Skoosh.
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Does anyone know if the LDS records are readable as i have found the same problem with not getting any joy from trying to read the Sighthill register at the Mitchell?
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Hi,
Glasgow & West of Scotland Family History society offer a photo service where they will go take a photograph of a stone. church, school, house etc for £5 if the building or stone is still there and email you the results. See photo service at: www.gwsfhs.org.uk. They will not do a search of all the cemeteries in Glasgow as there are too many so they need a location.
Jay
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Hello, I have a kin buried in Eastern Necropolis in Glasgow....do you know of any records of this cemetery that are found online so I could check to find him there?
I see a partial list online of Southern, in which my gggrandmother is buried, but she is not on that, so I would also love to find the records for that one also....do I have to go to Mitchel to get those records?
radnor37
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Hello Radnor
Many of the headstones at the Eastern Necropolis (also known as Janefield cemetery) have been photographed by memento-mori.
There is charge of £5 for a copy of the photo sent by email
Index for Janefield http://www.memento-mori.co.uk./32.pdf
Jim
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Thank you Jim, this has been very helpful information
Radnor37
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The Glasgow & West of Scotland Family History Society have photographed and transcribed all the stones in the Glasgow Necropolis.
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The Glasgow & West of Scotland Family History Society have photographed and transcribed all the stones in the Glasgow Necropolis ...
... and the results are available for sale in the form of a CD. The index is very amateurish - you can search only on surnames, there are no soundex options, no options to filter by given name or a range of dates, and it returns all references to the exact surname you type in. This is pretty annoying if you are looking for a name with variable spelling, or a very common name. There are 226 references to Smith, for instance, and if the one you are interested in is No 226, you have to click 'next' 226 times to get to it! But provided you either have an unusual name to look for, or a lot of patience, you get a transcription and at least one photograph of the stone. And it certainly beats having no information at all.
Of course this is only a record of what is transcribed on stones and still legible; there will be many thousands buried there who don't have a stone.