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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Cornwall Lookup Requests => Cornwall => England => Cornwall Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: precious on Tuesday 07 June 05 12:00 BST (UK)
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Hi,
We have a Joseph Mutton died in Australia in 1906. His wife was Julia Hannah Thomas who died in Australia in 1921. They had a daughter Caroline Jane Mutton born in Australia in 1877.
We have been told that Joseph and Julia were born in Cornwall.
Can anyone help with suggestions or lookups please to help us find these people and their families. Thanks
Sue and Jenny in Australia
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Hi both!
Any idea when they arrived in Oz (other than before 1877)? How old were they at death?
kind regards, Arranroots ;)
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Hi, thanks for taking the time to respond, we appreciate it, not sure about anything but what we posted. Their death's came from family documents. I am going to try and access South Australian Records on Friday to see if the death records have an age or parents. In the interim we have found 'two possibles' coming into Australia as unassisted immigrants to Victoria. A Joseph Mutton, an adult, came in on the St Osyth in Jan 1876 as an adult, putting his dob c 1855. Also a Julia Thomas came in as a 8 year old in Apr 1863 on the Winefred, with her parents and siblings. This also puts her dob c 1855. My computer has its good and bad days (and so do I with the stupid thing) and I am trying to get the 1861 census to work to check on Julia Thomas & family in this census. We were told by elderly relatives that they came from Cornwall.
Why do the ancestors have to make tracking them so difficult, it is like they knew it would happen someday and took pleasure (at least some of them did) in making the task very difficult in deed by lying, changing names, not registering births, and moving all over the place. However, therein lies the challenge, doesn't it.
Have a good day
Sue and Jenny
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If you post the details of anyone you want looked up - siblings and parents and all if you have them - I'm sure someone will have a go. there are lots of us with censuses 1861 onward and maybe others will help with bmd or earlier censuses.
It may be worthwhile posting in the emigrants board as there are folk who have experience of tracing their rellies leaving the UK for Australia.
Do you want Joseph traced? Or would it be better to wait til after Friday?
Arranroots ;)
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I am researching this family. I am looking for Julia Hannah Mutton (nee Thomas) She married Joseph Mutton in Cornwall, not Thomas Mutton. I am sure we are after the same family. Regards Fleurieu
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Caroline Jane and her sister Hannah Elizabeth were both born in Camborne. They came to S.A. with their father, Joseph. Mum, Julia, can't be found. Joseph married Mary Jane Symons in S.A. and had 3 children, one of which was my grandfather.
Regards Fleurieu.
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Hi Precious,
Joseph Mutton was my GGrandfather. Don't know what happened to his first wife, Julia Hanna (nee Thomas) whom he maried in Camborne. Joseph brought his two daughters to S.Aust (Moonta). Both girls, Caroline Jane and Elizabeth Hannah, were born in Cornwall. Jospeh married Mary Jane Symons, also from Camborne in Moonta. They had three children, one of which was my grandfather, Joseph Eddy Mutton. I have a lot of details on the families of the girls. What connection are you? Regards Fleurieu.
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Hi Fleurieu,
Just to let you know that this thread is from 2005 and precious has not been online since Nov 2005. She may for any number of reasons not received a notification that you replied. (the email address she used to join may longer be in use etc) Hope she gets in touch. ;D
Cheers Kris :)
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Thanks Kris, I am finding it hard to get around this web site, but will master it in time. :) Fleurieu
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Hi there, give me a little time to digest all the posts and I will get back to you. Joseph Mutton was my 1st cousin two times removed or, to put it another way, his grandfather, Joseph, is my GG Grandfather. I don't believe we have been in contact by other means but my Mutton Harrison Tree on ancestry may be of interest to you. My info (best guess to date) on Julia Ann Thomas is that she "separated" from Joseph, left him with the kids and "remarried" to a Richard Williams before dying in Penzance in 1888. cheers Mick
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Dear Fleurieu, time to eat some humble pie. Please disregard the info I gave re Julia Ann Thomas (I had already dismissed that line of enquiry some time ago - should have checked before I wrote that). At this stage there is still no news of Julia's fate but I guess its time to renew my search for info.
Mick :-[
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Hi Mickyem, we have contacted before via emails. I have sorted through the many Muttons, and I believe that some info on the several David Muttons is incorrect. I believe that David Mutton, who married Mary Sheahan/Shey was previously married. It has been written that he arrived on the Tantivy, well, that would not be correct, as he would have been too late for his first marriage. You see, I have record of 4 David Muttons marrying, but no matter where I check, there are only really three David Muttons dying. That means one was married twice - and the years, ages and naming of the children conform. I could send you what I have via mail if you like. Cheers, Fleurieu.
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Hi Fleurieu, I had a feeling we had been in contact. Yes I wouldn't mind you sending any info you have via email. I have input a lot of data into my tree recently which I am happy to share if it is of any use to you and have had recent contact with a descendant of Joseph's cousin (1 x 1 removed), Charles David Mutton, also of South Aus. I have searched high and low for trace of Julia Ann with no success to date. I am interested to know what happened to her daughters, did they marry etc
cheers mickyem
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Julia Hannah Mutton and Joseph Mutton two daughters - Elizabeth Hannah (Annie) and Caroline Jane (Carry) both married. Annie lived at Burra in SA - no children. Carry lived over the west coast around Kimba and had several children. Annie was a nursing sister and run the nursing home, now a national trust home. She was Annie Young, married to Chin Young. Chin was a chinese gentleman who had a market garden at Kooringa. Regards Fleurieu :)
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Dear Fleurieu, you mentioned a couple of posts back that you had some info you could send via email. My email address is mickmuttonattpgdotcomdotau. Would be happy to receive any info you have relevant to my tree (my problem is that I haven't made the connection with your user ID on Rootschat and a contact in my email address book - its an age thing!). Also, could you confirm that you have access to me tree on ancestry. I'm not sure if I have sent you an invite but would be happy to do so. I have recently reviewed my info on the David Muttons in my tree and noted that the two in South Australia that were of interest to me were David married to Mary Sheay and David married to Mary Biggin. It took a while to sort out their descendants as a few other researchers had assigned the wrong parents to them (IMHO).
regards Mickyem