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Title: 1901 England Census - ALLBUTT William Henry (unable to find)
Post by: richk on Friday 22 March 13 21:40 GMT (UK)
Hi

Have been trying for sometime without success to find my Anfield based 2x Great Grandfather in the 1901 Census. Is anyone able to help? He appears fine in the 1911 census.

Surname - ALLBUTT
Forenames - William Henry
Occupation - Butcher's Manager
Born - 1870 (not in Liverpool as 1911 census states, but Birmingham, his father was a draper of the same name).

Wife - Amy Jane Allbutt (nee Haines; previously Stewart)
Children - Elsie Lilian (1901); Amy Elizabeth (1905); Lucy Edith (1907); William John (1909); Kate E (1910); Lillian D (1912); Albert Henry (1916)

Best regards
Richard
Title: Re: 1901 England Census - ALLBUTT William Henry (unable to find)
Post by: Radcliff on Friday 22 March 13 22:41 GMT (UK)
In West Derby by 1909 for the baptism of William John
abode 78 Gloucester Place
fathers occupation butcher
Title: Re: 1901 England Census - ALLBUTT William Henry (unable to find)
Post by: GrandmaSheila on Friday 22 March 13 22:43 GMT (UK)
1901 Census - Aston, Birmingham (No. 1 Cort, 22 Great Sister Street
Frank Steward 24 Cycle Turner born Birmingham
Amy J. Steward 21 Cycle Chain Maker born Birmingham
Elsie L. Steward 4 months born Birmingham
Title: Re: 1901 England Census - ALLBUTT William Henry (unable to find)
Post by: Radcliff on Friday 22 March 13 22:45 GMT (UK)
Excuse me for askng but did William and Amy not marry untill 1904
St Mary Edge hill
Title: Re: 1901 England Census - ALLBUTT William Henry (unable to find)
Post by: GrandmaSheila on Friday 22 March 13 22:49 GMT (UK)
24th November 1904 - Edge Hill, Lancashire
Amy Steward married William Allbutt
Brides Father: William Haines
Grooms Father: William Allbutt
Title: Re: 1901 England Census - ALLBUTT William Henry (unable to find)
Post by: richk on Saturday 23 March 13 09:35 GMT (UK)
Thanks all,

Correct William and Amy married in 1904. Amy was previously married to Frank Steward. The child Elsie was from Amy's first marriage.

Trying to find William before the marriage to Amy in 1901. I have him in 1891:

Name:   William H Allbutt
Age:   14
Estimated Birth Year:   abt 1877
Relation:   Son
Father's Name:   William H Allbutt
Mother's name:   May J Allbutt
Gender:   Male
Where born:   Warwickshire, England
Civil parish:   Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish:   St Chrysostom
County/Island:   Warwickshire
Country:   England

Registration district:   Birmingham
Sub-registration district:   All Saints
ED, institution, or vessel:   36
Neighbors:   View others on page
Piece:   2400
Folio:   126
Page Number:   26

Household Members:   
Name                 Age
William H Allbutt   37
Mary J Allbut 37 (nee Mary Jane Reddall)
William H Allbutt   14
Maude Allbutt   12
Alfred Allbutt   10
Walter Allbutt   8
Albert Allbutt   5

Best regards
Richard
Title: Re: 1901 England Census - ALLBUTT William Henry (unable to find)
Post by: richk on Saturday 23 March 13 09:38 GMT (UK)
Here is Amy in 1891

Name:   Amy Haines
Age:   10
Estimated Birth Year:   abt 1881
Relation:   Daughter
Father's Name:   William Haines
Gender:   Female
Where born:   Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish:   Aston
Ecclesiastical parish:   St Matthew Friday Street
County/Island:   Warwickshire
Country:   England

Registration district:   Aston
Sub-registration district:   Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel:   35
Piece:   2421
Folio:   22
Page Number:   37

Household Members:   
Name     Age
William Haines   39
Ellen Haines   18
Kate Haines   16
William Haines   14
Lucy Haines   12
Amy Haines   10
Lily Haines   7
Leah Haines   4

Best regards
Richard
Title: Re: 1901 England Census - ALLBUTT William Henry (unable to find)
Post by: richk on Saturday 23 March 13 09:39 GMT (UK)
So to re-confirm William Henry Allbutt in the 1901 census is my brickwall. Can't find him anywhere.

Best regards
Richard
Title: Re: 1901 England Census - ALLBUTT William Henry (unable to find)
Post by: Gibel on Saturday 23 March 13 19:47 GMT (UK)
Could this be him indexed as Allbit

19 Haden St Balsall heath
William H Allbut 24 insurance agent
Rose E wife 24
Albert H son 3
Doris daur 1 month
all bn Birmingham
Title: Re: 1901 England Census - ALLBUTT William Henry (unable to find)
Post by: Gibel on Saturday 23 March 13 19:51 GMT (UK)
William H Allbutt married Rose Eleanor Palmer 1896 in Birmingham. She died in 1906 in Birmingham so perhaps not!
Title: Re: 1901 England Census - ALLBUTT William Henry (unable to find)
Post by: mosiefish on Saturday 23 March 13 22:47 GMT (UK)
Many young men of his age were actually in South Africa at the time of the 1901 census fighting in the Boar War. 

Mo
Title: Re: 1901 England Census - ALLBUTT William Henry (unable to find)
Post by: richk on Sunday 24 March 13 18:44 GMT (UK)
Thanks Gibel, I spotted that Palmer marriage too and had my hopes raised. But a no go because William married my great grandmother Amy in 1904.

The missing period for William is 1891-1903, either in Birmingham or West Derby (Liverpool).

It could be possible that he was involved in a conflict in South Africa Mo, but have no evidence to that point. He would have been about the right age.

The search goes on...

Best regards,

Richard
Title: Re: 1901 England Census - ALLBUTT William Henry (unable to find)
Post by: richk on Saturday 30 March 13 12:09 GMT (UK)
Searched the Boer War 1899-1902 records on the FindMyPast website. No result for any William Allbutt's or W Allbutt's (with variants selected).