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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Limerick => Topic started by: kibbie on Tuesday 12 March 13 11:14 GMT (UK)
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This is a long shot but could anyone offer me any help with a place name as given on the 1901 Census?
Definitely Co Limerick, appears to read McCanea, could also be Macania or Mcanea.
I've googled it no end but without success.Obviously it's down to how the enumerator interpreted it so the spelling could be way off. Guessing it must have been a small townland somewhere in Co Limerick. A needle in a hay stack!
Many thanks.
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You can see a list of all the townlands in Co. Limerick on this site:
http://www.thecore.com/seanruad
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Thank you Elwyn, I'll give it a go. Unfortunately I have tried several place name databases including County Limerick Genealogy and I can't see any place name remotely like it.
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Hi, can you give the details of the Census entry and maybe it may make sense to one of us? There are several places that start with 'Mount' that's sometimes abbreviated to 'Mt' and the old Irish 't' looks kinda like a 'c' and is transcribed as such.
Regards,
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Thank you "BreenByrne" for your offer of help.
The details are: 1901 Census, Timothy Sullivan (43), Commissioners Buildings, Midleton
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000558173/
I hope you can make better sense of it than me.
Many thanks.
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Hi, I've spent a few days trawling through options but I'm stumped! I'm from Co Limerick so thought I might come up with something. I've gone through all the Sullivans in the county and checked their occupations to see if there were any others that have stonemasons/cutters and an address that could link in to these Sullivans but with no joy. Now I note that they most of the children were born in Cork so looked at townlands too that were on the Cork/Limk border but no definite solution.
One thought is that it might be Mountcanea or Mountcania but they don't exist - there is a Mountcollins and Sullivan is a relatively common name in that area...
What other information do you have and where does this census form fit into your tree? Is Timothy the person you're following up or is it just an incidental piece of info?
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Hi BreenByrne.
Thank you for your time. I'll try and answer some of your questions.
- I note that at least one of Timothy and Annie's children was born in Mallow, not that this helps in any way but perhaps they were travelling a route via Charleville
- Timothy is rather essential to my research, being my children's 3 x great grandfather
Leading on from the "Mt" possibility, could the place name be Knockanea? I'm thinking Knock - hill or mount?
Unlike the 1901 census the 1911 census shows Timothy unable to read or write and he signs with a cross, so it is quite possible the place name was mis spelled. Unfortunately at this time both Timothy and Anne decide to enter their place of birth as Co Cork which doesn't help.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001996766/ (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001996766/)
I'll keep digging, must be a clue out there somewhere.
Kind regards.
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Hi Kibbie, I was only positing the idea of Mount as the abbreviation of that is Mt and the old Irish t looks a bit like a c...so Knock wouldn't fit in with that theory. Do you know where Timothy married or what Anne's maiden name was? It looks like Anne was just 18 when they married.
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I've received details of baptisms for some of Timothy and Anne's children, which show Anne's maiden name to be Tiernan. I've spent a bit of time searching on line records and established Timothy and Anne were married in 1878 in the Parish of Donore (Sheephouse falls within this Parish). I hope to apply for a copy of the marriage cert, which might give more detail, as the Parish record does not give father's forename.
Timothy's route appears to be: born ? Co Limerick c1858 -> married in the Parish of Donore, Co Meath in 1878 -> daughter Ellen born in Parish of Donore 1979 -> son Patrick born in Mallow c 1881 -> living in Midleton, Co Cork by 1882.
Unfortunately as far as I can see, none of this is of much help in the search for Timothy's place of birth.
Regards
Kibbie
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Did you find what you were looking for?
I found one record:
Name: Helena Sullivan
Gender: Female
Christening Date:
Christening Place:
Birth Date: 11 Sep 1879
Birthplace: Sheephouse, Meath, Ireland
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Timothy Sullivan
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Anne Tiernan Sullivan
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00964-4
System Origin: Ireland-EASy
GS Film number: 256038
Reference ID: v 2-1 p 465
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Wondering if the place was Monagea (Monagay) Co Limerick?
Sio
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I have seen McCanea used as a surname .
Was thinking perhaps it could be spelt McKanea or McKane ?
It also could be McCean or McKean or just plain "Crean"
My Great grandfather John Joseph Quaid was born in Crean , Limerick in 1869
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Do you have their marriage certificate or information ?? Do you know the parents names for Timothy and Ann ??
Sorry I cant be of more help at this time:(
Jila
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Hi. I have a copy of Tim(othy) Sullivan's marriage cert at last. It names his father as Pat(rick) Sullivan, Stone Cutter. Timothy was full age when he married in 1878, and the 1901 census shows him as aged 43, so I'd say timothy was born c1857 / 1858.
I believe I've narrowed his baptism down to 2 possibilities:
1. 1857 in the parish of Knockainy[/color] & Patrickswell
2. 1857 in the parish of Ballyagran
Could Knockainy in any way be confused with Mccanea? McKainy????
Unfortunately, as the baptism records very rarely record the fathers occupation, I've no way of knowing which entry could be the correct one.
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My Sullivan's are a bit before yours:( This in Marriage cert I have for mine:
Marriage Record Date of Marriage: 13/02/1841 Parish / District: BULGADEN County: Co. Limerick Husband Wife Name: James Fitzgibbon Maria Sullivan Address: Denomination: Roman Catholic Roman Catholic Occupation: Age: Status: Husband's Father Wife's Father Name: Fitzgibbon Sullivan Address: Denomination: Occupation: Husband's Mother Wife's Mother Name: Address: Denomination: Occupation: Witness 1 Witness 2 Name: James McCarthy Catherine Sullivan
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I found this record for a possible match to my William Quain:
Griffiths Valuation Record Information Tenant Family Name 1 QUAIN Forename 1 WILLIAM Landlord Family Name 2 Common Forename 2 Location County LIMERICK Barony SMALLCOUNTY Union CROOM Parish FEDAMORE Townland CARNANE Place Name CARNANE Place Type TOWNLAND Publication Details Position on Page 63 Printing Date 1851 Act 9&10 Sheet Number 22 Map Reference 25
If you note the Townland mentioned is "Carnane" in Croom Parish. Perhaps this is the name you are also looking for??
Jila
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H Jila. Thank you for your information.
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Timothy Sullivan and Ann Tiernan showing up on one public family tree on ancestry. You seem to have more information than them but it might be worth getting in touch
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I found this possible match: Name: Timothy James Sullivan
Birth Date: 1854
Birthplace:
Age: 30
Spouse's Name: Mary Anna Tiernan
Spouse's Birth Date: 1857
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age: 27
Event Date: 16 Oct 1884
Event Place: Newport, Newport, Rhode Island
Father's Name: Daniel Sullivan
Mother's Name: Margaret Conroy
Spouse's Father's Name: Bartholomew Tiernan
Spouse's Mother's Name: Mary Gallager
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I09532-0
System Origin: Rhode Island-EASy
GS Film number: 2188896
Reference ID: p. 46
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Did your Timothy immigrate to the USA ?