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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Topic started by: monna on Monday 11 March 13 18:08 GMT (UK)

Title: London and Kent
Post by: monna on Monday 11 March 13 18:08 GMT (UK)

Is there anyone out there that may be able to verify some information for me.  I am working on my family tree and am confused.

Title: Re: London and Kent
Post by: Ringrose on Monday 11 March 13 19:45 GMT (UK)

We need to know what the problem is.
Ringrose

Title: Re: London and Kent
Post by: monna on Tuesday 12 March 13 00:13 GMT (UK)

I am looking for information for Richard Constance.  Born 28 Apr 1811, Holborn Lying in Hospital Endall Street, London.

Did he ever marry and have children and when did he die?  Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks.
Monna

Title: Re: London and Kent
Post by: monna on Tuesday 12 March 13 00:17 GMT (UK)

His parents where:  Richard Constance B. 17 Feb 1782 Clifton Bristol England  D: 26 Dec 1843 - mother,Mary Sophia Grice B: 18 May 1780 St. George's Hanover Square London Middlesex  D: 13 Aug. 1852 Kennington Ashford Kent

Thanks

Title: Re: London and Kent
Post by: KGarrad on Tuesday 12 March 13 07:51 GMT (UK)

I found this possibility for a marriage?

10th July 1830 at St Pancras Parish Chapel, by banns
Richard Constance, of this parish, bachelor
Louisa Fisher, of this parish, spinster

Witnesses: Mary Fisher & ? Ralfs   
all parties signed.

Title: Re: London and Kent
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 12 March 13 08:09 GMT (UK)

Children of Richard Constance (carpenter & joiner) & Louisa, of 1 John's Court, King St, baptised at St Sepulchre Holborn on 24 Jan 1847:

Richard, born 17 Feb 1837
Eliza, born 3 May 1841
William Alfred, born 4 Jan 1843
Frederick Ernest, born 16 Jan 1845
Walter, born 14 Dec 1846


Added: here are two earlier children

Louisa Amelia, bap 1 Sep 1833 St Giles in the Fields, dau of Richard Constance (carpenter) and Louisa, of 39 Great Queen St.

William Richard, born 22 Jan 1835, bap 5 July 1835 St Sepulchre, Holborn, son of Richard Constance (carpenter) and Louisa, of Charterhouse Lane.

Title: Re: London and Kent
Post by: KGarrad on Tuesday 12 March 13 08:29 GMT (UK)

This census might prove we are dealing with the wrong family?

1851 census: Reference HO107, Piece 1526, Folio 176, Page 35
1 St John Court, King Street, St Sepulchre, London

Constance, Richard  Head  M  45  Carpenter Foreman  b Clifton, Gloucestershire
Constance, Louisa  Wife  F  43  b London
Constance, Richard  Son  M  14  Scholar  b London
Constance, William  Son  M  8  Scholar  b London
Constance, Frederick  Son  M  6  Scholar  b London
Constance, Ada  Daughter  F  2  b London
Constance, Walter  Son  M  2 months  b London
Constance, Ann  Sister  Unmarried  F  50  Dressmaker  b Clifton

But is the place of birth coincidental? :-\

Title: Re: London and Kent
Post by: KGarrad on Tuesday 12 March 13 08:55 GMT (UK)

I'm even more convinced that we have the wrong family! ;D

1841 census: HO107, Piece 728, Book 2, Folio 20, Page 35
Salisbury Arms Yard on Johns Court, King Street, St Sepulchre Without, Newgate

Constance, Richard  M  35  Carpenter  Not born in county
Constance, Louisa  F  30
Constance, Louisa  F  7
Constance, Richard  M  4
Constance, Cecilia  F  2
Constance, Eliza  F  1 month
Constance, William  M  70  Carpenter  Not born in county

Could William be Richard's father?