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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Topic started by: KR on Sunday 10 March 13 13:20 GMT (UK)
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Hello,
George Dodd was born 1883 in Manchester.
As one of the 'Home Children' he was sent from a children's home in Manchester England, to the Marchmont Children's Home, Ontario Canada in 1895.
Reports from the home state he was living with a John Raine, in Verona 1895-96, and then with an Allan H Sinder, Verona 1897-1899.
Would somebody be able to look at the Canadian census records please to see if George stayed in Canada.
Thanks
KR
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Hello.
You can search the 1901 and 1911 Canada censuses for free at this link .....
http://automatedgenealogy.com/
1906 for the prairie provinces is also available in case he moved there. The 1921 Canada census is due to be released later this year.
PB
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Many Thanks PB, will give it a try.
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Births 04094890 George Dodd Ada Craggs
35172-0 George Dodd Annie Coats
I hope it helps
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Not sure what this means vbain.
It says Births, but are these marriages of a George Dodd to an Ada Craggs or Annie Coats ?
KR
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http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/images/getimage/genealogy/screensize/5cee5fad-09ef-4ee2-8c8b-43c7d94fe53f
This is a death of Allan Wesley Dodd, s/o George James Dodd and Ada Embury. George's birthplace is given as Manchester.
This ties in with the 1911 census in Ontario for George and Ada with children Ila, Sylvester and Allan in Portland, Ontario. Also in Portland in that year Allan Snider is enumerated. If you check the 1901 census there is an Allan Snider with an adopted 16 year old son, George Snider, shown as born Ontario but census can be wrong. Most likely George Dodd shown as Snider with the wrong birthplace.
Marriage of George Dodd, 22, of Verona, s/o George Dodd and Elizabeth Trotter, to Ada Embury, 18 of Verona, d/o James Embury and Elizabeth Scales. Marriage 12 July 1906 Frontenac County. Frm birth registrations of children the marriage took place in Kingston.
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Ila Irene b. 05 aug 1907 at Portland Ontario. Father's occupation farmer
Sylvester M. J. b. 10 Jul 1909 at North Bay Ontario. Father's occupation Railway section foreman.
Allan Wesley b. 06 Feb 1911 at Lot 9 cons 11 Portland
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Hi Cosmac,
That's brilliant.
The death cert ties in, fathers name was given as George James, George's father was called James George Dodd.
Now that you mention the names Snider, I can see that the document I have does state Snider and not Sinder, the dot over the i is in the air.
Managed to find the census records for 1901 & 1911.
The only anomaly are the parents names that George gives on the marriage to Ada.
They should be James George Dodd and Sarah Endsor, his mother died in 1891 and his father remarried.
It's possible that George didn't want to be associated with his father for putting him in a home.
Really appreciate the help, gives me a lot to work on.
Many thanks
KR
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The birth registration of 2 of George's children did include his middle name.
Was Elizabeth Trotter the 2nd wife of James George?
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Hi,
No, James George Dodd married Ellen Buckley (widow) nee Simpson in Dec qt 1891, he didn't waste much time.
Just looked at Lancashire BMD & Find MY Past for a marriage between Elizabeth Trotter to a Dodd and there isn't one.
KR
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The fact that the death registration for George Dodd's son indicated that his father was born in Manchester and this George married and lived in the Verona area in the early 1900s does seem to tie him into the one you're looking for but there are many coincidences in names and locations for people. It would be nice to be able to find George James Dodd later in life.
A family tree on ancestry indicates that Ila Irene Dodd married 17 June 1929 to Carl Johan Peter de Neergaard but no location given. Their family consisted of 2 boys and 3 girls. Voters lists show a Sylvester Dodd with wife Velma retired and living in Matheson, Ontario (Cochrane district of northern Ontario). No way of knowing if this is the other son of George.
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Yes I agree, it would be good to find George later in life, may be he left Canada after his children married.
Are the Canadian Birth Marrriage and Death records indexed as in England ?
Thanks for the extra info about his children, I don't have access to ancestry but will take a look at the Family search site again.
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BMDs in Canada are not centrally indexed. They are registered within the province that the event occurred in and because of privacy laws each province handles the release of information separately. Generally births are protected for 100 years, marriages 70-80 and deaths 70-80. British Columbia seems to be the one province that releases death registrations up to a more recent date. Finding information on people who died between 1950-2000 is probably the most challenging. On the plus side the 1921 census is due to be transferred to Library Archives Canada and once it is indexed/filmed it will be made available. Perhaps that will give some clues as to whether or not this George Dodd is the one you're looking for.
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Hi Cosmac,
Will look forward to the 1921 census release.
I thought I had reached the limit on my Dodd family, but as more and more records have become available I decided to have another look, and I am glad I did, as I have learnt so much more about the family.
It has been an interesting journey finding out about George, as I had not heard about the so called 'Home Children'.
Thank you for all your help, I am very grateful.
KR
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Vital Statistics Births
George Dodds 0409890
Annie Coats 35172 0
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Vital Statistics Births
George Dodds 0409890
Annie Coats 35172 0
George Dodds was born in England according to the original post. Can you please explain clearly what the record you posted refers to.
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George Dodd 0409890
Annie Coats 35172 0
Hope this resolves this.
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I asked if you would explain your previous post but all you have done is repeated the names and numbers :-\
Please read the original post at the start of this thread-
George Dodd was born 1883 in Manchester.
As one of the 'Home Children' he was sent from a children's home in Manchester England, to the Marchmont Children's Home, Ontario Canada in 1895...
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Can we leave this?
I looked through Births and found George Dodds.
His wife Annie Coats,and a birth.
Births 04094890 George Dodd Ada Craggs
35172-0 George Dodd Annie Coats
I hope it helps
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Can we leave this?
I looked through Births and found George Dodds.
His wife Annie Coats,and a birth.
Found a birth where? George Dodds born in Manchester, ENGLAND. It does not look like an English reference. So, is the record you found in Canada?
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Vital statisticsProject:
George Dodd, Births #4094890
Annie Coats ,Annie Coats,3512 -0
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Vital statisticsProject:
George Dodd, Births #4094890
Annie Coats ,Annie Coats,3512 -0
Vbain, can you please explain what you are posting for the 4th time. Your posts are adding confusion to this thread.
Karen
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George Dodd:Births #4094890
Annie Coats#3512-0
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Vbain I think your information would be easier for people to understand if you gave more information in your replies. Remember that most people who are asking for help are not familiar with Canadian records and sources.
For example you might try the following format:
From the Ontario Vital Statistics Project there are 2 birth registrations which might be of interest.
1. Birth of William George Dodd, 15 May 1905 Peel Co., s/o George Dodd and Annie Coates. Father a labourer and living at Snelgrove
2. Birth of Wilfred Norman Dadd, 18 Mar 1890 Toronto, s/o George Dodd and Ada Craggs.
This gives the basic information found on the Ontario Vital Statistics Project in a format that is easily understood and it also gives the source of the information posted. The numbers you quoted reference the Ontario Registration numbers for the births and just confuse the issue as you don't use them to look up the records.
I hope this helps you to continue searching and adding information you find to queries.
Added:
FindAGrave has cemetery entries at Saint John Norway Cemetery Toronto for George F. Dodd (1856-1921) and wife Ada Craggs Dodd (1857-1935). Dates of birth eliminate this couple from consideration.
Marriage registration on 15 Apr 1903 Caledon Peel, for George Dodd, 29, b. Canada, living Snelgrove, s/o Elisah Dodd and Louisa Wise to Annie E. Coates, 19, b. Canada, livng Snelgrove also eliminates this couple due to place of birth and parentage for George.
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The only anomaly are the parents names that George gives on the marriage to Ada.
They should be James George Dodd and Sarah Endsor, his mother died in 1891 and his father remarried.
The Manchester marriage record for James and Sarah's marriage indicates Sarah was a widow and her father's name was listed as Thomas Smith. Sarah's first husband appears to have been named Thomas Endsor. Of course that doesn't help with this problem however I will add that over the course of my research I have seen a number of marriage registrations where the names of the parents were wrong for no apparent reason.
Jacquie
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Thanks for clarifying that cosmac.
Maybe George was just being mischievous by stating his mother to be Elizabeth Trotter.
Would appreciate a nudge when the 1921 census is released.
Thanks to all.
KR