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Title: thomas briggs boocock
Post by: shela on Friday 08 March 13 21:34 GMT (UK)
hello iam looking for the family of william briggs boocock who married catherine ann hughes in liverpool 1878. thank you.
Title: Re: thomas briggs boocock
Post by: Sandymc47 on Friday 08 March 13 21:39 GMT (UK)
Hi Sheila,
To save time for the researchers what part of the family are you looking for?
Have you got their children or is it backwards to their parents etc.

regards Sandymc
Title: Re: thomas briggs boocock
Post by: heatherjulie on Saturday 09 March 13 08:02 GMT (UK)
Hi
Catherine A Hughes married Thomas B Boocock in 1878 West Derby Register Office or registrar attended

www.lancashirebmd.org.uk

Heather
Title: Re: thomas briggs boocock
Post by: heatherjulie on Saturday 09 March 13 08:19 GMT (UK)
1881 115 Warwick Street, South Toxteth Liverpool

Thomas Boocock Head 25 born 1856 Manchester Foreman Carter
Catherine Ann Boocock Wife 24 born 1857 Toxteth Park Liverpool
Alfred Boocock Son 6 months born 1880 Toxteth Park
James Boocock Brother 8 born  1873 Toxteth Park

Edward E Hughes Head  67 born Liverpool Butcher
Mary Hughes wife 53 born Everton
John Hughes son 33 widower born Everton Butcher
Emily Hughes daughter 17 unmarried born Liverpool
Edward Jas Hughes grandson  12 born Liverpool Scholar
John Hughes grandson 10 born liverpool Scholar
Thomas T Hughes grandson 8 born Liverpool Scholar
John Hughes brother widower 75 born Harding Wales Mariner

3636/115/12

Heather
Title: Re: thomas briggs boocock
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 09 March 13 08:48 GMT (UK)
LancashireBMD has only 1 Thomas Boocock born 1857 +/- 2 years - in Chorley, Mother's maiden name Boocock.

So maybe this is Thomas in 1861?
RG09, Piece 3121, Folio58, Page 50
Brooke Street, Chorley

Carr, William  Head  M  23  Cotton Weaver  b Colne
Carr, Matilda  Wife  F  22  b Eccleston
Boocock, Thomas  Son  M  3  Scholar  b Chorley
Carr, Mary  Daughter  F  1  b Chorley
Carr, Albert  Son  M  2 weeks  b Chorley


And, assuming this is the correct Thomas, the marriage:
March qtr 1859
Chorley district    vol 8e, page 477

Carr, William
Boocock, Matilda
(Confirmed by LancashireBMD)



Wrong Thomas!   See later post
Title: Re: thomas briggs boocock
Post by: heatherjulie on Saturday 09 March 13 09:31 GMT (UK)
There is a George Thomas born Chorlton on Medlock Manchester in 1855
Title: Re: thomas briggs boocock
Post by: garstonite on Saturday 09 March 13 09:32 GMT (UK)
Lan-opc only has 1 baptism for a Matilda Boocock - and it fits age wise
Matilda Boocock baptised 20th May 1838 at St Katherine,Blackrod,Lancashire
daughter of James Boocock and Jane
born april 15th 1838
abode Charnock
occ Calico Printer

Matildas marriage to William Carr is 1st jan 1859 at St George ,Chorley ..father is James Boocock
so looks like the right Matilda
added...James Boocock to Jane Edge  27th aug 1826 at Bolton Le Moors ,Lancashire - possible marriage for Matildas parents
allan
Title: Re: thomas briggs boocock
Post by: heatherjulie on Saturday 09 March 13 09:38 GMT (UK)
Where does this one fit in?

Marriage: 18 Jan 1880 St Michael in the Hamlet, Aigburth, Lancashire, England
Benjamin Briggs Boocock - 20, Carter, Bachelor, Haliburton St
Rose Williams - 20, Spinster, Haliburton St
Groom's Father: Thomas Boocock, Carter
Bride's Father: William Williams, Boiler Maker
Witness: William Boswell; Ann Taft
Married by Banns by: Jos. B. Lowe
Title: Re: thomas briggs boocock
Post by: heatherjulie on Saturday 09 March 13 09:40 GMT (UK)
Marriage: 17 Feb 1886 St Michael in the Hamlet, Aigburth, Lancashire, England
David Whatman - 19, Milk Dealer, Bachelor, Beaufort St
Elizabeth Briggs Boocock - 20, Spinster, South Chester St
Groom's Father: David Whatman, Labourer
Bride's Father: Thomas Boocock, Deceased, Carter
Witness: ? ?; Mary Berry, (X)
Married by Banns by: John R. Eyre, Inct.
Title: Re: thomas briggs boocock
Post by: garstonite on Saturday 09 March 13 09:41 GMT (UK)
That church is 3 miles from me ...a beautiful Cast Iron church ..and there are still Boocock family in my area
google St Michaels in the Hamlet and view the church ...it is a stunning piece of architecture
allan
Title: Re: thomas briggs boocock
Post by: heatherjulie on Saturday 09 March 13 09:55 GMT (UK)
1871
at 6 Court 8 Nelson Street, Great George District, Liverpool

John Boocock Head 39 born 1832 Manchester Cotton Porter
Elizabeth Boocock Wife 39 born 1832 Manchester
John Boocock son 17 born 1854 Manchester Runner
Benjamin Boocock son 13 born 1858 Manchester Errand Boy
Elizabeth Boocock daughter 3 born 1868 Birkenhead

10/102/3777/136/30
Title: Re: thomas briggs boocock
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 09 March 13 10:05 GMT (UK)
Just to confuse things  ;D  there are also these births:

1855  Thomas Bowcock  Deansgate, Manchester
1856  Thomas Bowcock  Ardwick, Manchester
1856  Thomas Bocock    Eastern Bolton
1856  Thomas Bocock    Little Bolton
Title: Re: thomas briggs boocock
Post by: heatherjulie on Saturday 09 March 13 10:07 GMT (UK)
From Familysearch
Benjamin Boocock married Betsy Briggs 12th July 1830 Manchester Cathedral

Heather
Title: Re: thomas briggs boocock
Post by: heatherjulie on Saturday 09 March 13 10:17 GMT (UK)
1841
Salford Hundred Atherton Street, Deansgate District of Manchester
Benjamin Bocock 30 Carter not born in County
Elizabeth Bocock 30 not born in County
Thomas Bocock 8 yes born in county
569/6/7/10
Title: Re: thomas briggs boocock
Post by: heatherjulie on Saturday 09 March 13 10:18 GMT (UK)
Thomas Briggs Bocock was christened at Manchester Cathedral but I don't have access to the record

Heather
Title: Re: thomas briggs boocock
Post by: shela on Saturday 09 March 13 10:26 GMT (UK)
thank you all so much,didnt expect so much so soon,will enjoy reading it,thank you all once more,shela
Title: Re: thomas briggs boocock
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 09 March 13 10:51 GMT (UK)
This looks like our chap!

Thomas Briggs Bowcock,
born 17th October 1855,
baptised 17th November 1858, at St George, Hulme

son of Thomas & Elizabeth Bowcock, (late Chapman), who were married Cathedral 1844.
Address: Waters Street Manchester; father a Porter

A very helpful vicar putting all those details on the Parish Register!
Title: Re: thomas briggs boocock
Post by: heatherjulie on Saturday 09 March 13 12:13 GMT (UK)
Can't find a marriage for them in 1844 >:(
Title: Re: thomas briggs boocock
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 09 March 13 12:25 GMT (UK)
Neither can I!

But that is what the vicar wrote on the baptism register?

m at Cathl 1844
Title: Re: thomas briggs boocock
Post by: heatherjulie on Saturday 09 March 13 12:28 GMT (UK)
This is getting confusing!

Marriage

Peter Boocock  aged 21 bachelor Mechanic
and
Elizabeth Briggs aged20 Spinster Weaver

both of North Bierley

27th May 1844 Bradford St Peter(Bradford Cathedral)
Groom's father John Boocock Collier
Bride's father Thomas Briggs farmer

Both made their mark

witnessed by Joseph Smith and John Miller

Heather
Title: Re: thomas briggs boocock
Post by: heatherjulie on Saturday 09 March 13 12:32 GMT (UK)
There is a death for a Peter Boocock 26th April 1846 aged 23 Wibsey Holy Trinity West Yorkshire
Title: Re: thomas briggs boocock
Post by: heatherjulie on Saturday 09 March 13 12:51 GMT (UK)
1861
4 Grindle Street Manchester
Frances? Bowcock 28 b1833 Manchester Boatman
Elizabeth Bowcock 28 b1833 Manchester
Thomas Bowcock 6 b1855 Manchester
Benjamin Bowcock 3 born 1858 Manchester
Title: Re: thomas briggs boocock
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 09 March 13 14:44 GMT (UK)
1871? RG10, 3777, 136, 20
6 Court, 8 Nelson Street, Liverpool

Boocock, John(?!)  Head  M  39  Cotton Porter  b Manchester
Boocock, Elizabeth  Wife  F  39  b Manchester
Boocock, John  Son  M  17  Runner  b Manchester
Boocock, Benjamin  Son  M  13  Errand Boy  b Manchester
Boocock, Elizabeth  Daughter  F  3  b Birkenhead

Looks as if dad changes his name on a regular basis! ;D ::)


Maybe?
Births, December qtr 1867
Birkenhead    vol 8a, page 380

Beaucock, Elizabeth    (yet another variation!)


There are some trees on Ancestry (Yes! I know how reliable they are!) that have families with:

Thomas Briggs Boocock
Benjamin Briggs Boocock
Elizabeth Briggs Boocock
Title: Re: thomas briggs boocock
Post by: shela on Saturday 09 March 13 16:49 GMT (UK)
CONFUSED.but thank-you, i  keep going over it.shela
Title: Re: thomas briggs boocock
Post by: helen_w on Tuesday 12 March 13 10:57 GMT (UK)
Found one.

Thomas Briggs Bulcock married Elizabeth Chapman J/A/S 1853 
 8D 335

Has to be Thomas Briggs Boocock -  Van Driver

August 30th 1853 at Manchester Cathedral. Living at 24 Crown Street Hulme and father Benjamin Bulcock- carter.
Title: Re: thomas briggs boocock
Post by: Luzzu on Tuesday 12 March 13 12:44 GMT (UK)
Thomas Briggs Bocock was christened at Manchester Cathedral but I don't have access to the record

Heather

Thomas Briggs Bocock christened at Manchester Cathedral 28th Apr 1833
parents: Benjamin Bocock, porter, and Elizabeth

Mary Bocock christened at Manchester Cathedral 8 Nov 1835
parents: Benjamin Bocock, porter, and Elizabeth

Luzzu :)

Title: Re: thomas briggs boocock
Post by: Luzzu on Tuesday 12 March 13 12:50 GMT (UK)
Thomas Briggs Bulcock who married Elizabeth Chapman on 30 Aug 1853 at Manchester Cathedral was aged 20 (born circa 1833) and his father was Benjamin Bulcock, carter;

Thomas Boocock who married Mary Ann Hague on 22 Nov 1875 at Hulme St Mark was aged 42 (born circa 1833) and his father was Benjamin Boocock, carter;

In 1853 he was a van driver and in 1875 he was a waterman.

Does anyone think that the two Thomas' are the same person please?  The signatures look different on the parish registers and Briggs has disappeared too.

Luzzu :)
Title: Re: thomas briggs boocock
Post by: Luzzu on Tuesday 12 March 13 12:56 GMT (UK)
Death
Thomas Bowcock, aged 42
3rd qtr 1876 Chorlton 8c 508

I think this is the death of Thomas who married Mary Ann Hague in 1875.  She was definitely widowed by 18 June 1877 when she married again.

Can anyone see a burial?  Hoping to find out why he died but probably the only way is to order the death certificate.

Luzzu
Title: Elizabeth Boocock
Post by: helen_w on Tuesday 12 March 13 13:20 GMT (UK)
On a different forum I found someone who had sent for this birth certificate. The mother is Elizabeth Chapman and the child is registered as Elizabeth Beaucock born December 1867. Must be impossible to have a name like Boocock and be illiterate!!
Title: Re: thomas briggs boocock
Post by: Luzzu on Sunday 17 March 13 14:12 GMT (UK)
Hi
Catherine A Hughes married Thomas B Boocock in 1878 West Derby Register Office or registrar attended

www.lancashirebmd.org.uk

Heather

Looks like they were buried at Toxteth Park Cemetery.  Thomas Briggs Boocock buried on 15 April 1909 and Catherine Annie Boocock buried on 6 Nov 1926.

http://www.toxtethparkcemetery.co.uk/dbase/toxsearch.php

Luzzu :)
Title: Re: thomas briggs boocock
Post by: gemmanoon on Saturday 03 January 15 07:01 GMT (UK)
Hello all,

sorry to be a year late to this board - I'm the person who got the birth certificate for Elizabeth Boocock / Beacock a while back. She was my great-great-grandmother on my direct maternal line.

Shela feel free to drop me a line, and thanks for everyone who did some sluthing! Just to confirm what many of you have found:

Thomas Briggs Boocock (born 1856, died 1909, buried in Toxteth) was son of Thomas Briggs Boocock (1833) and Elizabeth Chapman (1833). Thomas is incorrectly named on the 1871 census as John, but as the family were illiterate I'm putting it down to error. They were married in Manchester August 30th 1853. By the late 1860's the family are in the Liverpool area (their daughter was born in Birkenhead and their youngest son in Toxteth) but they are originally from Manchester. Thomas was indeed the son of Benjamin Boocock and Betsy (Elizabeth) Briggs, and was christened April 1833.

There are a large number of Briggs-Boococks running around the liverpool area in the late 1800s, and they are all related (huzzah!).  Please drop me a line if you want any further info on this branch.

Thanks everyone,

Gem
Title: Re: thomas briggs boocock
Post by: Luzzu on Monday 05 January 15 12:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Gem,

Do you have any information about Thomas Boocock/Bowcock who married Mary Ann Haigh/Hague on 22 Nov 1875?  I believe he was the son of Benjamin Boocock and Betsey Briggs.  He wasn't married to Mary Ann for very long as he died 3rd qtr 1876.

Mary Ann was my 3 x great grandmother. She married George Haigh (my 3 x great grandfather) first and was widowed.  Then she married Thomas and was widowed again.  Her 3rd husband was Samuel Holland.

I haven't ordered Thomas' death certificate yet.  I have all three marriage certificates though.

Luzzu  :)
Title: Re: thomas briggs boocock
Post by: gemmanoon on Monday 05 January 15 15:48 GMT (UK)
Hi Luzzu,

to be honest the second marriage has come as a bit of a surprise to me! I knew that Thomas had died by 1886 thanks to his daughter's marriage certificate and had assumed he was dead in 1881 as his youngest son is living with his oldest brother. However when Ben Briggs Boocock married in 1880 he didn't list his father as deceased, which threw me. I also haven't found his first wife's death certificate yet, but then I was only looking in the Liverpool area  :-[

One thing I have on him that might be of interest is a newspaper report about him. It appears that in 1867 he was arrested for trying to steal cutlery from the company that had paid him to transport it, but my favourite detail is the fact he was somewhat drunk when he was arrested and announced "You have the wrong man. I know who did it, but I shan't tell you."

Drop me your email and I will send the clipping over - made me smile at least!

Gemma
Title: Re: thomas briggs boocock
Post by: Luzzu on Wednesday 07 January 15 17:18 GMT (UK)
Hi Gemma,

Thank you I would be interested to see the cutting.  I will PM my email address.

I had a similar problem in finding the death certificate for George Haigh.  He was buried in Manchester but I couldn't find the death registration to order the certificate.  As it happened he died in Liverpool and his body was taken back to Manchester for burial (he fell? into the Duke's Dock and it took them 2 days to find him).  The cause of death was "found drowned" so I will never know if he had an accident, had been drinking or was pushed.

I will eventually order Thomas' death certificate and will let you know the outcome.

Luzzu  :)