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Title: Birdbrook 1841 look up - AGER
Post by: JohnA on Monday 06 June 05 13:10 BST (UK)
I am looking for Elijah Ager born c 1804 and Ephraim Ager born c 1835.

Any Ager in Birdbrook or Sturmer would be a great help

Thanks JohnA 
Title: Re: Birdbrook 1841 look up - AGER
Post by: cep on Monday 06 June 05 13:39 BST (UK)
1841 Birdbrook

Boreham Place

Hariet Ager, age 38
Amelia, 13
Martin, 11
Alfred, 8
Ephraim, 5
Eleanor, 3

Elijah not found.

Several other Ager families.


Regards   CP
Title: Re: Birdbrook 1841 look up - AGER
Post by: JohnA on Tuesday 07 June 05 13:28 BST (UK)
Hi CP

Thank you very much for your time and trouble.  This information was just what I was looking for.

Kind regards JohnA
Title: Re: Birdbrook 1841 look up - AGER
Post by: danielle on Sunday 10 July 05 01:31 BST (UK)
Hi John,
I forgot you e-mail address which you gave me at the Ager reunion in Castle Camps.
I have been trying to link your Ager's to mine without success at the moment.
Have you found Elijah's parents yet?

Regards.
Title: Re: Birdbrook 1841 look up - AGER
Post by: danielle on Sunday 10 July 05 01:48 BST (UK)
Hi John,
Have some information for you, I have just sorted through my paper work.

Elijah Ager married Harriett Martin on 5th Feb 1823. Birdbrook.
Title: Re: Birdbrook 1841 look up - AGER
Post by: JohnA on Sunday 10 July 05 17:09 BST (UK)
Hi Danielle, thanks for the information on Elijah and Harriett.It is just what I wanted.It allows me to go back a bit further.Will keep you updated as the family tree progresses
Title: Re: Birdbrook 1841 look up - AGER
Post by: danielle on Friday 09 September 05 13:28 BST (UK)
Hi John,
How are you getting on with hunting Elijah and Harriett.
I haven't been doing to much researching lately but will let you know antthing I come across.
Regards,
Danielle
Title: Re: Birdbrook 1841 look up - AGER
Post by: JohnA on Friday 09 September 05 14:07 BST (UK)
Hi Danielle,I have a copy of the parish record for Elijah and Harriet.They were married by Banns at Stamboune village church so there is no marriage license.As they were both under 21 it just says that they were married by parents consent and does not give names.They both signed with an"x".The witnesses,Davis and Jarvis I think are local people who could write.Iam pursuing ELIJAH through the Essex County Council Records office which seems a good source and looking at babtisms for Birdbrook,Stambourne and Sturmer where Ephraim was born.Also 1831 and 1821 census.I hope to visit the records office soon.
John
Title: Re: Birdbrook 1841 look up - AGER
Post by: danielle on Saturday 17 September 05 01:02 BST (UK)
Hi John,
That's great news that you found were they were married.
I have some papers from another researcher who was looking for a John Ager/Agar, it might have your John.

Really curious if our families are related as my GGGgrandfather Isaac b 1777-81 was born Steeple bumpstead[ all the census state this] but still can not find him.

Good luck at Essex Record Office.
Shall be in touch.
Danielle
Title: Re: Birdbrook 1841 look up - AGER
Post by: JohnA on Friday 23 September 05 17:04 BST (UK)
Hi Danielle

Through the Essex Record Office I have the baptism  of Elijah who is shown in the Bishops transcripts and parish records for 1802 for BIRDBROOK.He is shown as being baptised with his brother George on the 30 th May 1802.
His father is George and his Mother is Mary.I think Elijah was born in 1798 in Birdbrook which is shown in the records of the Latter Day Saints(mormons).How does this tie in with your records.
Best Wishes John
Title: Re: Birdbrook 1841 look up - AGER
Post by: danielle on Saturday 01 October 05 00:15 BST (UK)
Hi John,
Great news finding Elijah's parents.
Not sure if you have this info-Elijah Ager  (1804)  47Yrs 619  Birdbrook 
Harriet Ager  (1804)  47Yrs 619  Birdbrook 
John Ager  (1834)  17Yrs 619  Birdbrook 
Alfred Ager  (1834)  17Yrs 619  Sturmer 
Ephraim Ager  (1835)  16Yrs 619  Sturmer 
Jos. Ager  (1838)  13Yrs 619  Birdbrook 
Ellis Ager  (1838)  13Yrs 619  Birdbrook 

Danielle
Title: Re: Birdbrook 1841 look up - AGER
Post by: JohnA on Saturday 01 October 05 19:02 BST (UK)
Hi Danielle
   
 Yes,thanks I have that info.I will be going to the National Archives to look at the 1841 census for George an d Mary.I suspect he was born around 1780  so he could be Isaacs brother and we may yet be related.Will keep you informed.Best regards John
Title: Re: Birdbrook 1841 look up - AGER
Post by: danielle on Sunday 02 October 05 16:25 BST (UK)
Hi John,
I have sorted some details out for you but I am still looking for the Birdbrook papers someone send to me 3 or so years ago---I will keep looking.
I took these down from Birdbrook church.

Matilda Ager died Jan 5th 1924
Ephraim Ager Jan 12th 1924 aged 75 years.
Harry Ager Nov 28th 1925 aged 53
Christopher Ager Jan 1921 Aged 55
William and Ann Ager[ ccouldnt read anymore]

Good Luck at the PRO.
Let me know the outcome.
June
Title: Re: Birdbrook 1841 look up - AGER
Post by: JohnA on Monday 03 October 05 17:55 BST (UK)
Hi June,
thanks for the info,it will be interesting to see how they fit in with the others and thanks for the support.
Iwill let you know what I come up with at the PRO
Best regards John
Title: Re: Birdbrook 1841 look up - AGER
Post by: danielle on Friday 09 December 05 01:26 GMT (UK)
Hi John,
Any news on Elijah? Wondering if you have been to the GRO yet.
Danielle
Title: Re: Birdbrook 1841 look up - AGER
Post by: JohnA on Friday 09 December 05 19:21 GMT (UK)
Hi Danielle,
I have been looking at other Agers born in birdbrook around the turn of the 1800's and there families.I think some of the heads of the families in the 1841 and 1851 censuses for birdbrook are Elijah's brothers.His brother george married Caroline Taylor around the same time Elijah was married and they had a son Abraham and daughter Caroline.
Essex cc record office are looking at the following to check there baptism records to see if there mums and dads were Mary and George
James
Joseph
Thomas
John
Danial
Fanny
Isaac(born Birdbrook)
Allof the above were born between1790 and1812 Ithink so were of the same generation of your  Isaac.I have looked at all the censuses including 1831 which is a head count.
Once I have the results from the record office I will contact you again.My next task is to find marriage and baptisms of George and Mary,Elijah's parents.
Good Hunting John
Title: Re: Birdbrook 1841 look up - AGER
Post by: danielle on Wednesday 08 March 06 22:43 GMT (UK)
Hi John,
Sorry I haven't replied sooner but didn't see your post until today.
I have found my paper work for Birdbrook and Steeple bumpstead.I have the parish baptisms from 1714 until 1783, marriges from 1777 till 1833[ which have Elijah and George marrying 2 days a part in 1823.
I also have tried to find George and Mary but without success--I have found Geoge Ager marrying Ann Honsby in 1770 in Steeple bumpstead.

There was a Isaac that married Mary Ann Plum/Plumb in Birdbrook 1924, think this was the son of Abraham.

e-mail me direct on mflg05439@blueyonder.co.uk

Speak soon,
Danielle
Title: Re: Birdbrook 1841 look up - AGER
Post by: 1vicki on Saturday 01 April 06 07:03 BST (UK)
Hi From Australia
I am looking Ephraim Ager who married a Catherine Urban in Australia on their Marriage Certificate  On 20/07/76 Moss Vale NSW Australia

Listed as a Baker, 28yrs old and born in Halstead Essex England, this mean that he was born approx 1848 ?
But have receive an e-mail from a person who live in Halstead who has look in both parish of St Andrews and Holy Trinity to date haven’t found him.

 His parents are listed as Thomas Ager and Ann Templer have found their marriage 1825 Bocking, England
Has anyone come across this line in their tree line?

His children in Australia are

No1 Henry Thomas Ager, No2 Lucy Ada Ager, No3 William Ager, No4 Emily Ager, No5 George Ager, No6 Albert Ager, No7 Elsie Ager, No8 Catherine Ager,
 No9 Walter Ager, No10 Jane Ager.

 I also have copies of an newspaper stories of an Herbert Ager who left Australia in1900, to return to England to look after his parents? Is this person (Herbert Ager a brother or an cousins of Ephraim Ager)

They are living at the same address in`1894- 95 Herbert was a Billiard marker.

Any help would be great.I could you help look for any  Ager family in Australia.

I am from Elsie Ager Line.

Trying to get information for a reunion in July this Year Ephraim and Catherine Ager 130th 1876 - 2006           Thanks again
Title: Re: Birdbrook 1841 look up - AGER
Post by: JohnA on Sunday 02 April 06 15:24 BST (UK)
Hi,I have an Ephraim born Birdbrook in1835 but unfortuneatly none of your ancestors are in my family tree.A good source of informaion is www.essexcc.gov.uk who hold the parish records for Essex and will research for you for a small fee.Good hunting .John
Title: Re: Birdbrook 1841 look up - AGER
Post by: Peter Elsdon on Friday 23 February 07 12:20 GMT (UK)
John/Danielle,

I have received information today that George Ager c1767 married Mary Hannibal c1770 their children were Phobe c1787 James c1789 Birdbrook and Elizabeth c1792 a further note on James was that he lived in Herstead Green? and married Rebecca Drew on 12111816 at Birdbrook Parish Church.

Hope this helps you both, John I think we contacted on the other site
Regards Pete
Title: Re: Birdbrook 1841 look up - AGER
Post by: ciaramum on Thursday 06 December 07 00:07 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter,

I have a George Ager born 1767 in Birdbrook on my tree. He was the brother of my 5 x g grandfather William Ager. As far as I know the parents of William, George and their various siblings were William and Jane (nee Alleston) Ager.
I would love to know more about George Ager and his family as, although I have done quite a lot of research on William's line, I know next to nothing about his siblings.

Many thanks

Joanne
Title: Re: Birdbrook 1841 look up - AGER
Post by: Peter Elsdon on Thursday 06 December 07 15:51 GMT (UK)
Joanne,
I have William Ager married to Jane Alleston on 13081758
Jane was born Great Wratting Nr Haverhill Suffolk. They had Three children George bt 25101767, William bn 01061764 and Phobe bt 05111772.

George married Mary Hannibal they had 6 children .  1)Phobe bt 06051787,     2)James bt 01021789 Birdbrook married Rebecca Drew Parish Church Birdbrook 12111816 they had 8 children (i do have details).
Next 3)Elizabeth bt 13051792 Essex, 4)Ruth 1794 Birdbrook, 5)George 1802 Birdbrook and 6)Elija also 1802 Birdbrook

Regards Pete
Title: Re: Birdbrook 1841 look up - AGER
Post by: PippaL on Wednesday 05 March 25 16:57 GMT (UK)
I have Elijah Ager 1802-1885 m Harriet Martin 1808-1871, children Alfred b1834, Ephraim b1835 and Ellis b1838.
Elijah b Birdbrook died Poplar, London.
His parents George Ager1767-1820 baptised 25 Oct 1767 Birdbrook St Augustine of Canterbury (father William, mother Jane)
and Mary Hannibal 1770-1820