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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Cork => Topic started by: FinleyHarrington on Friday 08 March 13 02:38 GMT (UK)
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Hi, I'm looking for someone who might possibly check out the Cork Examiner Archives for me. I'm looking for an obituary notice for John Kennefick who, I think, died in 1896. He was born in 1858 (I believe in Clonakilty) and was married to Margaret (Riley) Kennefick. He had a daughter, Margaret Kennefick. Any help at all regarding this family would be very much appreciated.
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The British newspaper archive have SOME of the Cork examiners from the period, but no mention of John Kennefick in their on line collection.
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Hi Trigger Happy,
Oh, too bad, thank you for checking.
I just found one reference to it and thought it might be online, but I couldn't find how to access it. Here is the exact reference:
KENNEFICK, John; Carrigrohane COR IRL; Cork Examiner; 1896-2-29; dja
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Hi Trigger Happy,
Oh, too bad, thank you for checking.
I just found one reference to it and thought it might be online, but I couldn't find how to access it. Here is the exact reference:
KENNEFICK, John; Carrigrohane COR IRL; Cork Examiner; 1896-2-29; dja
OK, now that is good news. A year or so ago I had a similar reference and contacted the Examiner archives office. they were kind enough to post me a copy of the obituarys for the day in question and hey presto, my man was there. Good news for me, but bad news for the guy who had died in 1898!
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You can see the details of the death notice in Ireland old news
http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Cork/1896/FEB.html
If anyone wants to see some extracts from the Cork Examiner go into
www.irelandoldnews.com index.html and lots of counties are listed - go into county and then
year. If you are looking for death notices go into www.irelandoldnews.com/obits and search name, you get a short version of the death notice.
Funeral on Sunday at 11 o'c for Carrigaline . Although he died at Carrigrohane which is about
two miles to the West of the City he is buried at Carrigaline which is about
6 or 7 miles South East of Cork City.
Mary
Celtic Liberty
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Mary/Celtic Liberty... thank you so much! I'll have a look at that right now. What a wonderful resource! My knowledge of the area has a lot of room for learning, so I especially appreciate the help in learning about Irish place names, as well as resources--and how to access them.
Finley
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You are welcome.
As you have the date of death for John Kennefick it should be easy enough to track down his
burial , that is if the cemetery has kept good records.
Have you got the birth for their daughter Margaret. There
are two records for a Margaret Kinefick parents John Kinefick & Margaret Reilly b 3 July 1869
https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Amargaret~%20%2Bsurname%3Akinefick~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Acork~
The only thing about these is that you said John was born in 1858 and would only be 11
when this Margaret was born. It shows one record for Clonakilty and one for Cork although
dob is the same in both, possibly the same record.
Good luck with the search
Mary
Celtic Liberty
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Oh, I see... well that would be a problem. :-[ I mistakenly gave the date of birth for John and Margaret's daughter, Margaret instead of her Mother's dob. I have no dob for Margaret Riley/Kennefick, but my aunts tell me her parents were Elaine De Courcey and (Unknown--Perhaps Cornelius) Riley from Cappa Bandon.
Margaret Kennefick b. 3 Jun 1869 in Bean Hill, Clonakilty, Cork, Ireland; m. Edward Harrington, b. July 1865 in Cappa Bandon, Cork, Ireland: This couple, Margaret Kennefick/Harrington and Edward Harrington were my great-grandparents. The 1900 US Census says that Edward emigrated when he was 15, and Margaret emigrated when she was 14. They lived in Salem, Massachusetts at the time of that census.
There is a baptismal certificate for Margaret that states for July 4, 1869: Magt. John Kennefick and Magt. Reilly -- Bean Hill; SS. Humphrey Crowley & Ellen Donovan -- P.N. (I don't know what the initials stand for.)
I hope I'm on the right track here. I would love to know more about my family and our history.
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Hi Finlay
This looks a good match for Elaine De Courcey & ? Riely in 1816
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/1809920005603
The Spellings of names varies a lot on records..
These look to be some of the children from that Marriage
1817 http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/c28b7e0018164
1828 http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/77cac20160491
1829 http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/b4d0790161287
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Not sure if you've seen this but I'll post it anyway
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FHXB-TM9 The actual picture of the register is on Ancestry..
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Loudam... thank you! Theses are great leads! I noticed all the spelling differences, I've read that spellings often differ for the same person. I will have to check these when I get home... so looking forward to it. Thanks again!
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Hi Finlay
This looks a good match for Elaine De Courcey & ? Riely in 1816
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/1809920005603
The Spellings of names varies a lot on records..
These look to be some of the children from that Marriage
1817 http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/c28b7e0018164
1828 http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/77cac20160491
1829 http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/b4d0790161287
Loudam... thank you! Theses are great leads! I noticed all the spelling differences, I've read that spellings often differ for the same person. I will have to check these when I get home... so looking forward to it. Thanks again!
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Not sure if you've seen this but I'll post it anyway
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FHXB-TM9 The actual picture of the register is on Ancestry..
Thank you again, Loudam. I hadn't seen this... wonderful. Will check!
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Hi Trigger Happy,
Oh, too bad, thank you for checking.
I just found one reference to it and thought it might be online, but I couldn't find how to access it. Here is the exact reference:
KENNEFICK, John; Carrigrohane COR IRL; Cork Examiner; 1896-2-29; dja
OK, now that is good news. A year or so ago I had a similar reference and contacted the Examiner archives office. they were kind enough to post me a copy of the obituarys for the day in question and hey presto, my man was there. Good news for me, but bad news for the guy who had died in 1898!
I'll have to check that possibility. People here are amazing with all the generous leads I've been given. Now I have to get my search skills up to snuff. :)
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Hi Finlay
This looks a good match for Elaine De Courcey & ? Riely in 1816
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/1809920005603
The Spellings of names varies a lot on records..
These look to be some of the children from that Marriage
1817 http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/c28b7e0018164
1828 http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/77cac20160491
1829 http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/b4d0790161287
Loudam... thank you! Theses are great leads! I noticed all the spelling differences, I've read that spellings often differ for the same person. I will have to check these when I get home... so looking forward to it. Thanks again!
Hi Louise,
These are wonderful. I found each of the records and copied the church records. The one child I haven't yet found for Ellen and Cornelius is Margaret Riley, who is my 2nd great-grandmother said to be born in Clonakilty and married John Kennefick. But I feel I am on the trail.
Thank you!
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Not sure if you've seen this but I'll post it anyway
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FHXB-TM9 The actual picture of the register is on Ancestry..
Thank you again, Loudam. I hadn't seen this... wonderful. Will check!
Oh Louise... thank you! Those are my Edward and Margaret. I am sure they must be. I have to study up on how to use Ancestry. com. I've been subscribed for a long time but never had found this despite many searches. So lovely to find them. :)
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Not sure if you've seen this but I'll post it anyway
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FHXB-TM9 The actual picture of the register is on Ancestry..
Hi Louise,
I found the record of my great-grandparents' marriage on Ancestry. What a goldmine! I can't thank you enough. It shows their occupations and confirms their birth dates, parents, and national origins.
Thank you so much!
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IT's all great Fun isn't i Finley!
I have searched for a record for your 2nd Great Grandmother Margaret but it doesn't seem to come up but it could possibly be there just not sticking out!
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Found another possible sibling of Margaret Riely
This one is transcribed as Cors Keily & Ellen Courey as parents but on looking they could easily be Cors Reily & Ellen Courcey, the address is the same as one of the other childrens baptism record
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/e862ec0159600
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Oh my goodness, Louise… I bet this is my Cornelius and Ellen. Thanks for the tip!