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New series of Heir Hunters On everyday from March 4th 2013 for 4 weeks.
let us know what you think.
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catch up with episode one here http://www.bbc.co.uk/heirhunters
Tomorrow a Celebrity Special!
Heir Hunters finally solve a 20 year old case and along the way reveal the story of a heroic pilot in the family who died in the final days of WW2. And when BBC weatherman Michael Fish learns he is the heir to an unclaimed estate he goes on a journey of discovery through his family history. Plus details of estates for which heirs still need to be found, could you be an heir?
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Have just watched today's (Tuesday) episode on iplayer. Thought it was thoroughly absorbing. I like the balance between the presentation of the genealogy and the human stories that emerge in the course of the research. So sad about the heroic pilot, after all his flights over Germany and then meeting his end flying the plane back to base . Michael Fish's ancestral story was intriguing too - I had to rewind and watch again to get to grips with who married who when and who had which children! :o ;D I have one or two similar tangled webs in my own family history ::)
Nice to see how other heir hunters, apart from Fraser & Fraser, work too. Great stuff! I look forward to future episodes.
Janet
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I found the info on India fascinating,I recently found my Grandad's army records and discovered he went to India before south Africa.
Barb
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On Wednesday's programme featuring the Carson/Browne/Sharp families researcher Saul Marks said that he thought Thomas Carson and Mary Browne, both originally from Ireland, had married in Liverpool. They married on 27 Feb 1889 at St. Alban's RC church in Liverpool. The fathers' names were James Carson and John Browne. Witnesses were Thomas Burns and Mary Jane Gilfoyle.
Blue
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I've now watched the first four programmes in this series. My impression is that the amount of repetition has increased (clip of what's coming, shown in full, reminder when we get back to that case) even over previous series - something I find very irritating. As I record to watch later I try to catch the repeat bits & fast forward but don't manage them all.
The "additional" material varies in interest to me - I found today's pigeon keeping/racing more than enough, but appreciate a fancier may have been fascinated by it. Yesterday's story of the man who married U S Grant's daughter was more of interest to me.
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Myself and OH completely agree with mshmrh comments. Additionally, we look forward to seeing more of the guys out on the road, Ewart, Bob, Paul, Dave, etc. Jazgran
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Personally, I don't think the repeat clips are too intrusive. I appreciate the 'reminder' clip when they return to the first case, it's sometimes easy to get the cases muddled if they are particularly complex - or maybe it's just my poor memory! I'd like to see more of the guys on the road too but it seems that they are all (at least at Fraser & Fraser) getting a bit fed up with the cameras being around - according to Neil Fraser who commented on another thread here recently - maybe that's the reason for not showing the researchers out on the road quite so much as before. Perhaps we could see more of the other research companies' work instead then, if the Fraser & Fraser staff have had enough! ::)
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I think they are showing more of other companies this time, and I like the history side really interesting, but it is at the expense of how they do the research.
I would be sad to see it og but from Frasier & Frasiers staff point of view I can see how having cameras watching your every move for quite a long time 7 series worth it must get a bit over powering at times.
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The other comment I meant to post was about the "you may be an heir" bit - in the end credits it has Bona Vacantia correct as at May 2012. Couldn't either a more up to date version be inserted or at least a check done to see whether the names were still on the list, a bit nearer to the time of first broadcast than 10 months ago?
I found the art case today interesting - ties in with some of the material that was on the Fake or Fortune programmes (Fiona Bruce & Philip Mould) IIRC.
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One thing puzzled me on todays was when the chap at Fraziers said there was a note on the census
which pointed him to information about the family?? I have never seen any notes like that...unless
it was something that Fraziers had put previously....are you out there Neil?
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I've now watched the first four programmes in this series. My impression is that the amount of repetition has increased (clip of what's coming, shown in full, reminder when we get back to that case) even over previous series - something I find very irritating. As I record to watch later I try to catch the repeat bits & fast forward but don't manage them all.
We've stopped recording them now as the amount of repetition is OTT. It's not just Heir Hunters - lots of programmes are doing the same thing.
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Harry - I agree it's the same with many programmes, such that it's got to the stage that most programmes we watch we record & much use is made of the "skip" & "fast forward" buttons to eliminate the ads & repetitions as far as we can
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For the first time ever I found this useful the other day when I tuned in half way through and episode of Heir Hunters... ;D
Milly
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The other comment I meant to post was about the "you may be an heir" bit - in the end credits it has Bona Vacantia correct as at May 2012. Couldn't either a more up to date version be inserted or at least a check done to see whether the names were still on the list, a bit nearer to the time of first broadcast than 10 months ago?
Hi - this series is NEW - it has not been shown before - we completed it in May and the BBc have been sitting on it. We check the names with BV right up to when we finish the show.
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I've now watched the first four programmes in this series. My impression is that the amount of repetition has increased (clip of what's coming, shown in full, reminder when we get back to that case) even over previous series - something I find very irritating. As I record to watch later I try to catch the repeat bits & fast forward but don't manage them all.
We've stopped recording them now as the amount of repetition is OTT. It's not just Heir Hunters - lots of programmes are doing the same thing.
we do try to keep it to a minimum to be honest - but it's something the broadcasters like - as you will see on other shows - when we split the stories - it does help to have a quick reminder as some of the cases can be quite complex.
we will take you notes on board and cut it as far back as we can in future.
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On Wednesday's programme featuring the Carson/Browne/Sharp families researcher Saul Marks said that he thought Thomas Carson and Mary Browne, both originally from Ireland, had married in Liverpool. They married on 27 Feb 1889 at St. Alban's RC church in Liverpool. The fathers' names were James Carson and John Browne. Witnesses were Thomas Burns and Mary Jane Gilfoyle.
Blue
Further to my comments above I'm surprised the programme didn't cover the St. Alban's marriage was this because visuals of St. Patrick's church would be a better representation of Liverpool Irish settlement? St. Alban's still stands but is no longer used as a church but it would have been nice to see it on TV.
Blue
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The other comment I meant to post was about the "you may be an heir" bit - in the end credits it has Bona Vacantia correct as at May 2012. Couldn't either a more up to date version be inserted or at least a check done to see whether the names were still on the list, a bit nearer to the time of first broadcast than 10 months ago?
Hi - this series is NEW - it has not been shown before - we completed it in May and the BBc have been sitting on it. We check the names with BV right up to when we finish the show.
I didn't suggest the series wasn't "new". If the BBC have "sat on" this series for 10 months I'd suggest omitting the segment in any future series - you could still incorporate a bit about the BV & equivalent sites but without specific cases perhaps.
Blue - I don't know Liverpool well enough to recognise areas, but do know Manchester & recognise some of the bits with Hector from Celtic Research which IIRC were shown again when the case wasn't there - recycling?
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Ever since "Heir Hunters" started on BBC1 the number of "Heir Hunting" companies has mushroomed. I've noticed that series 6 stated there were over 30. Now on series 7 it's over 40. Now most of the new people have just got an interest in the topic and are diving into the TS pool of unclaimed estates. Now apart from the occasional estate worth over one million which will have been very difficult to solve or found to be dead, the majority of the estates on that monthly Ytrasury list are pretty small so companies like my own just work on the newly-advertised cases.
Even on those cases, we are beginning to get tiny firms trying to work them and because often they do not know how to proceed we get the situation, as happened recently, where I have one of my case-managers visiting an heir and there is a phone call to the heir from someone trying to interfere with the discussion.
I know of one person working on her own who got contracts from a number of people on a case with a very common name and then found that the entire estate was worth under £1,000 and her fees would be about £12 in total.
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I was surprised to discover that 'partial intestacy' one the other day.
My hubby said it sounds like a medical procedure ;D
Where 2 of the beneficiaries of a mans will had died before he did.
I just presumed that their share would go to their heirs,not back into the estate.
They had to treat that portion of his estate as though he died intestate and find brothers/sisters/cousins etc.
We learn something new every day!
Carol
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Just had to watch today's programme on the i-player as my recorder had missed the change of channel (Pope's inaugeration).
I thought the inclusion of the "spoiler" in yesterday's programme (re the Davenport outcome won't say more here) was really bad & totally unnecessary. The outcome though :D
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Just had to watch today's programme on the i-player as my recorder had missed the change of channel (Pope's inaugeration).
I thought the inclusion of the "spoiler" in yesterday's programme (re the Davenport outcome won't say more here) was really bad & totally unnecessary. The outcome though :D
Oh Damn,I didn't know it hadn't taped HH- was going to settle down later with a coffee to watch it. It's not quite the same watching it perched on the edge of an office chair huddled over a 15inch computer screen!
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You might be lucky Carol, it recorded ok for me today it automatically changed channels ;D
Rosie
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You might be lucky Carol, it recorded ok for me today it automatically changed channels ;D
Rosie
OOo thanks Rosie,I'll go and have a look.
Fingers crossed :)
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Rosie,
Your telly is obviously cleverer then mine .....boo hoo :'(
I'll have to wait till the series is repeated at some time in the future as mine didn't switch channels and record it.
Carol
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Thanks for starting this topic.
After 16 years ( on my part) recently with your members much valued help, I thought it was an opportunity to ask (via the programme) if they could help.
They happily and freely accepted the challenge.
Due for viewing Wednesday 20th March....I have no idea what they have found, if anything....and after research between 1933 to 2012, can't wait to find out.
This is an opportunity for me to say 'Thank You' to all the responses I received.
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Well it looks like you had a lucky escape as the number of Hall's on the new line would take a lot of untangling.
It was nice to see a different slant to the heir hunters chase and good to see Northampton Records office - i went there several times a few years back, very helpful staff.
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It was interesting to see the Hall case. I did wonder where the money was - I assume Celtic Research will have checked it out. IIRC from a National Archives podcast I listened to a while ago money in chancery doesn't grow so I hope that's not the case here.
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Yes, it was a small bit of luck, that line wasn't going to add to my own confusion.(Altough it did for a few years).... My great Aunt had picked up the original paperwork from the courts in 1933 and tried to find the link....... I inherited the paperwork in 1995, so thought I would have a go too. But, even with everyones generous help, still wasn't getting anywere, so invited Saul to pick it up.
Happy to see another set of researchers getting to grips with things, think this is the oldest 100 years + piece I've seen on H.H.
That is one Hall out of the way. Unfortuntely, I am still left with heaps of others, they really were a mysterious lot. Don't know if I will ever get to the last of them.
I will not give up, just keep going, picking up each one in turn, adding bits as I go along.
Still have one huge stumbling block. Thomas Hall b 1819. and his Grandfather Thomas Hall.17??
In this case, the funds were placed in an unusual way, don't know if they do it now, but to the rightful heirs, there is interest to be added, so more than the original £390 approx originally in Trust.
Lovely to share this with you all.
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In this case, the funds were placed in an unusual way, don't know if they do it now, but to the rightful heirs, there is interest to be added, so more than the original £390 approx originally in Trust.
Lovely to share this with you all.
Phew! Thanks for posting about the experience.
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Just love it although I should be really busy at the time it is shown here i.e early am cannot help but put tv on in kitchen to watch. Washing machine & dish washer can wait 45 minutes.
I find some stories so very sad, when one person dies unaware or chooses to walk away from family. It merely reinforces the fact that at the end of the day family is all we have.
Money can only pay the bills, family keep you company and put a smile on your face.
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Me too,
Every morning I surrender to the call, fighting the need to clean the windows! By the time the show ends, ooohhhh I can't do them now, the sun (rare as it is) will only cause them to smear.
Could do them weekends, but far more exciting things happening. More hunting of my own.LOL
So, thank you H.H, I hate cleaning windows.
Val
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Thursday's prog included the "unsolved case" of Pattie Fenella Lawson.
A quick search of the BMDs leads to the conclusion that her parents were Frank Herbert Lawson (1898-1948) & Phyllis Sophia Ormand (1900-1978) who were both born in Halifax reg district, married and died there too. Both had siblings in 1911.
So why have the professionals been "unable to establish who her father was" ? Was some terrible error made on her birth registration?
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Thursday's prog included the "unsolved case" of Pattie Fenella Lawson.
A quick search of the BMDs leads to the conclusion that her parents were Frank Herbert Lawson (1898-1948) & Phyllis Sophia Ormand (1900-1978) who were both born in Halifax reg district, married and died there too. Both had siblings in 1911.
So why have the professionals been "unable to establish who her father was" ? Was some terrible error made on her birth registration?
Almost certainly because the value was much to low for anyone to work on it. Most of the cases on the BV list are very small indeed.
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Tomorrow (Friday
23 29 March) is the last of series 7 - next week seems to have repeats of both series 4 & 6 at different times so those who've set recorders may want to check what (if anything) they will get then.
Edited to correct date :-[
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Tomorrow (Friday 23 March) is the last of series 7 - next week seems to have repeats of both series 4 & 6 at different times so those who've set recorders may want to check what (if anything) they will get then.
Tomorrow is Friday 29th March- have you been looking at the wrong month on the calendar ;)
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Tomorrow is Friday 29th March- have you been looking at the wrong month on the calendar ;)
Oops - goes of to edit post :-[ Thanks Carol8353 for spotting that!
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That's it from us for now on BBC 1.
I'm sure there will be another chance to see some older episodes soon.
in the mean time join us on Facebook if you fancy a chat or feel free to leave us any comments here.
http://www.facebook.com/HeirHunters
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Pattie Fenella LAWSON is worth £42,000 but there are no 1st cousins alive, it is what we call a dead case