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Anyone seen anyone lately?
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Greeting's And Welcome....
1841. Census returns for Muston :-
HO 107 / 588 / 05 ' page. 10.
Hamlet of Muston.
Joseph Patchet. 50. Ag. Lab. Y.
Catherine. 50. Y.
John. 20. Y.
Ann. 15. Y.
Same page.
Robert Patchet. 25. Ag Lab. Y.
Eliza. 20. N.
Sarah. 1. Y.
Y. = Yes born within the County.
N. = NO Not born within the County.
© Crown Copyright National Archives.
1851. INDEX. ONLY Census.
Vol. 7.
Index No. 417. = Muston.
PATCHETT.
Joseph. 24.
Sarah. 24.
Rebbecca. 1.
Index No. 413. = Muston.
PATCHETT.
Robert. 35.
Eley. 33.
Sarah. 11.
John. 9.
William. 5.
Ann. 1 Month Old.
Joseph. 65.
Catherine. 62.
Sorry no other details given.
© Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2003.
Early Marriages Found for Muston.:-
Agnes Pagett. ~ Stephen Marshal. 30th. April 1562.
Alice Patchett. Thomas Arnold. 20th. Nov. 1585.
Isabel Patchett. ~ Thomas Storie. 25th. June. 1599.
William Patchett. ~ Annie Marcall. 28th. Nov. 1597.
Robert Patchitt. ~ Eleanor Greene. 13th. June. 1642.
Valentine Patchit. ~ Joan Pine (Widow) 29th. Nov. 1642.
Alice Patchett. ~ John Robinson. 1654.
William Patchett.~ Frances Robinson. 21st. April 1655.
Joseph Patchett. ~ Catherine Ward. 14th. May. 1812.
© Crown Copyright National Archives.
MIKE.
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Hello Mike from Leicester
I am very grateful for that information about my ancestors - a couple of them I recognise I think - I have a Joseph DOB 1787 and a Catherine DOB 1788 with 2 sons John DOB 1817 and Joseph DOB 1827 which could match up with your first family although the parents came from Croxton Keyrial - is that near Muston?
John was born in Muston and he came to New Zealand with his wife Elizabeth Dring - one of their children is Reuben who is my grandfather.
Are you a Patchet by any chance????
Will work on this and the others and get back to you.
Thanks heaps.
Debbie in New Zealand (where
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Greeting's Again Debbie....
The only Patchett in Croxton Kerrial ( note correct spelling )
in 1841. Census is as follows...
HO 107 / 587 / 14 / Page 15.
Hamlet of Croxton Kerrial.
Elizabeth Patchett. 20. Bonnet Maker. Y.
Lodging with her is :-
Thomas Chambers. 25. Groom. Y.
Ann Wife. 20. N.
Ann Clark Dau. 4.
Y. = Yes Born within the County.
N. = NO Not born within the County.
© Crown Copyright National Archives.
Plenty Ward Families found……
You may already have the following ? :-
1861. Census returns:-
RG 9 2349 / Folder. 59. / Pages 9. ~10.
Leicestershire.
Muston.
Clark’s View.
Catherine Patchett. Head. Widow. 73. Ag. Lab’s Widow b. Croxton Kerrial. Leicestershire.
John Patchett. Son. Mar. 42. Ag. Lab b. Croxton.
Elizabeth. Dau.-in-Law. 38 b. Spittle gate Lincolnshire.
Joseph. Grd/Son. 12. Farmer’s Day Boy b. Muston.
Charles. Grd/Son. 19. ? Farmers Day Boy b. Muston.
Reuben. Grd./Son. 6. Scholar b. Muston.
Page 10.William Patchett. Grd/Son. 4. Scholar b. Muston.
Robert. Grd/Son. 2. b. Muston.
Ann. Grd/Dau. 3 Weeks Old b. Muston.
Interestingly three doors up from these is :-
Page. 8.
William Dring. Head. Mar. 41. Ag. Lab. B. Spittle gate Lincolnshire.
Page. 9.
Ann.Dring. Wife. Mar. 38. Ag. Lab’s wife b. Barrowby Lincolnshire.
Mary Ann. Dau. 13. Scholar b. Gedney Lincolnshire.
William. Son. 11. Scholar b. Ditto.
Elizabeth. Dau. 9. Scholar b Muston.
John. Son. 6. b Ditto.
Thomas. Son. 4. b. Ditto.
Sarah Emma. Dau. 8 Months Old. b. Ditto.
© Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2004.
John & Elizabeth Patchett with Family still there in 1871 but no sign of Reuben though…
MIKE.
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You are fanstastic - if any of your family came to New Zealand let me know.
I am going to study what you have sent today and get back to you.
I decided that John as in that family as the info was very close.
And I matched them up to me.
And those are definitely my grandparents way back - Joseph and Catherine - they must have been very sad when their boys all took off to NZ. Do you live in Muston? So now I have new aunties and uncles I did not have before. and a couple of dates that I didnt have either.
thanks heaps once again.
Debbie
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Hello Mike
Exciting news!!
I have Chambers in my family as well it seems only not those dates - I have recordings of late 1600s so Elizabeth Patchett must have been staying with relatives or viceversa.
Apparently Joseph died in 1861 so must have been before the Census came out and John and family must have moved in with Catherine to help support her and Elizabeth had her family 3 doors down obviously, William being her brother.
Reubens dad John arrived in NZ in 1877
The George Hodson family came out here around the same time from Muston
One of my Patchetts married a Silverwood
So there are heaps of lines to go through - I will try to see if I can get hold of an 1861 census here to follow all of this up - it is so addictive this hobby isnt it???
Debbie
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Hi Mike
thanks for the info regarding this site and also the info on the Patchetts.
My grandmother's name was Sarah Alice Jordan. It was her mother who was Catherine Patchett. I think I found her on the 1861 census as follows
Elly Carrington h widow 72 Willoughby Lincs
Elly Patchett d 43 Rossbye Lincs
Catherine Patchett g/d 8 Muston
but I don't have resources to go back any further. One of Catherine's sons was called John Carrington Jordan, so I presume he was named after his grandmother???
thanks again Jenny
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There are a few transcripts concerning PRACHET on my website, just type pratchet in the site search engine.
They include the following -
About three years since, this examinate removed thence to Stathorne, where she now dwelt. Upon a difference betweene the said Willimot and the wife of John Patchett, of the said Stathorne, yeoman, shee the said Willimot called her this examinate to goe and touch the said John Pratchet's wife and her Childe, which shee did, touching the said John Patchet's wife in her bed, and the childe in the grace wife's armes, and then sent her said spirits to bewitch thenm to death, which they did, and so the woman lay languishing by the space of a moneth and more, for then shee dyed ; the childe dyed the next day after she touched it.
Cheers
Guy
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Guy
thanks so much for forwarding me your web site. I've looked at it briefly but will certainly use it again. There's so much of interest!
Many thanks Jenny
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Hi Mike
thanks for the info regarding this site and also the info on the Patchetts.
My grandmother's name was Sarah Alice Jordan. It was her mother who was Catherine Patchett. I think I found her on the 1861 census as follows
Elly Carrington h widow 72 Willoughby Lincs
Elly Patchett d 43 Rossbye Lincs
Catherine Patchett g/d 8 Muston
but I don't have resources to go back any further. One of Catherine's sons was called John Carrington Jordan, so I presume he was named after his grandmother???
thanks again Jenny
Hi Mike
You are fanstastic - if any of your family came to New Zealand let me know.
I am going to study what you have sent today and get back to you.
I decided that John as in that family as the info was very close.
And I matched them up to me.
And those are definitely my grandparents way back - Joseph and Catherine - they must have been very sad when their boys all took off to NZ. Do you live in Muston? So now I have new aunties and uncles I did not have before. and a couple of dates that I didnt have either.
thanks heaps once again.
Debbie in New Zealand
Hello Jenny
Mike has forwarded me on your message about Catherine Patchett. One of my grandmothers way back was Cather Ward or West who married a Joseph Patchett so now with your addition I think we have another branch that I have yet to follow through with. My Patchetts come from Muston too so we must be linked. Tell me more if you can as I am very interested in keeping up with you. I have also forwarded on to you my reply to Mike so that you can be kept up to date with me.
Isnt this great to find out all of this information.
So Hello cousin from New Zealand!!!
Debbie Nicholson (nee Harrison)
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There are a few transcripts concerning PRACHET on my website, just type pratchet in the site search engine.
They include the following -
About three years since, this examinate removed thence to Stathorne, where she now dwelt. Upon a difference betweene the said Willimot and the wife of John Patchett, of the said Stathorne, yeoman, shee the said Willimot called her this examinate to goe and touch the said John Pratchet's wife and her Childe, which shee did, touching the said John Patchet's wife in her bed, and the childe in the grace wife's armes, and then sent her said spirits to bewitch thenm to death, which they did, and so the woman lay languishing by the space of a moneth and more, for then shee dyed ; the childe dyed the next day after she touched it.
Cheers
Guy
Hello Guy
I couldnt get into your guestbook for some reason so I will have to try again another time. I have bookmarked your site and am very interested in having a relaly good look at EVERYTHING!!!
The PRACHETS are very interesting - thank you.
Debbie Nicholson (nee Harrison with paternal grandmother being the Patchett) in New Zealand
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Debbie
thanks for getting in touch. I know very little about the Patchetts as I have only recently bought my grandmother's birth certificate.
Her name was Sarah Alice Jordan and she married James Peter Beatson.
I found out that her father was called Robert Jordan and that her mother was Catherine Patchett. I am from Sheffield and I found them living here in 1901 but earlier years shows them in Nottinghamshire.
By guessing Catherine's age in 1861 I found the family I listed earlier,but am not sure if this is the correct one. I expect so, as I couldn't find another Catherine Patchett from Muston.
Hope we have some connection, as I have found a long lost relative of my husband's in Australia. Let me know your thoughts
Jenny
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Hi Jenny
My Catherine and Joseph Patchett didnt have a child called Catherine but that doesnt mean anything as there may be other children I dont have yet. Also I dont actually have a Catherine Patchett as such yet either, however, I am going to keep searching as my Patchetts all came from Muston and surrounding areas and there must be the link there.
How much is it to buy certificates over there as I need to get some and maybe I could get you to get them for me and just send you the money.
Let me know. Is it something that can be done online I wonder because in my country and in Australia if you do it online they offer a huge discount. Dont know why as they dont email it they still send it snailmail. But it is a good $10 cheaper I am finding.
Love talking to you.
Debbie
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Debbie
Just read your reply and I have just bought a certificate on line. Go to www.gro.gov.uk
It was a really efficient service, better than my own register office!
Good luck in your research
Jenny
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Well thats very encouraging Jenny - they are cheaper too only &7 - I wonder how much that is our money probably $28 or thereabouts. Anyway I will look up my dates and things and start doing that then.
You're such a help thank you.
Debbie
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Hi Debbie
Just read your messages. Would like to make contact. Have lots of information about Patchett, Hodson & Dring families. I too live in New Zealand. In Marlborough. My G-G Grandfather was John Patchett, son of John & Elizabeth (nee Dring) Patchett.
Looking forward to hearing from you
Happy New Year
Suzie
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Catherine Ward had an older son Richard who was born before she married Joseph Patchett.
He is my husband's 3 x gt grandfather.
Catherine's family can be traced back a few more generations in Croxton Kerrial.