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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Staffordshire => Topic started by: Annied22 on Tuesday 26 February 13 23:53 GMT (UK)
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I've just bought a beautiful handwritten cookery book that this lady wrote in 1829 and I'm curious to find out more about her. I know from the book that her full name was Elizabeth Roylance Child and in 1829 she was unmarried and living at Holes Hall. The book was a wedding present for someone called Agnes.
Her parents were Baddeley Child and Catherine Child nee Ford. Baddeley was born, in 1776 or 1786, in Staffs to Smith Child and Margaret Child nee Roylance. He married Catherine Ford on 3rd April 1807 in St Giles Church in Newcastle under Lyme and died on 17.09.1850 at Barlaston. Their son, Smith, was born 13th Feb 1808 and christened at St Giles in Newcastle under Lyme. They had a daughter, Margaret, christened on 29th November 1809 at St Mary's Lambeth (then in Surrey) and Elizabeth Roylance was christened on 4th December 1811 also at St Mary's in Lambeth.
Elizabeth married John James Blunt at Barlaston on 14th June 1836 and it looks as though she died in Cambridge in April 1841 when she was still only 29 years old.
(I'm a bit confused about Baddeley as there appear to be 2 records, but with birthdates 10 years apart. I found a record of the marriage to Catherine where both of them are recorded as being 21 years old, which suggests the 1786 birthdate is correct. The 1841 census however lists a Baddeley living in Barlaston aged 65, "Independent" which ties in with 1776.)
Was there a Holes Hall anywhere in the Barlaston area? And can anyone give me any more information about the family please? I'd be very interested in finding out more about them and also if there were any relatives called Agnes.
Thanks to anyone who can throw any light on Elizabeth and her family for me.
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Three in Poll books for Totmonslow South Cheadle
Baddeley/ Smith & Roylance Child there is mention on the same page as near Hales Hall!!!
1848 Poll Book Roylance Child - King Street Newcastle - freehold Pot works and land
On -line tree gives a daughter Catherine to Elizabeth born 1840 Cambridge.
Jennifer
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Wow, that was quick! Thank you.
Yes, it could easily be Hales Hall. It was one of the possibilities I tried on Google maps, but drew a blank.
There's a Roylance Child aged 81, living in Audley on the 1851 census, so born circa 1770. What's the betting he's a brother of Baddeley's.
Where's the online tree please?
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I've now identified Hales Hall! It's in Cheadle and was built in 1712 for the Hales family. I've got an 1805 "Traveller's Guide" here (I love my antiquarian books!) where it also has a mention. It was owned then by N Kirkman Esq. so it appears the Child Family weren't actually the owners.
By the way it seems to have been on the market recently!
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Have a look at the Photographs of Tunstall Staffs thornber.net/staffs
This gives a good outline of the Baddeley/Child family tree's, it seems they were in the area for over four hundren years.
I am looking for where I found the information about Elizabeth's daughter, I will get back to you when I find it again!
Jennifer
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That's brilliant, I'd never have found it left to myself. Thank you so much! I'll print a copy of the family tree so I can keep it with the book. I really enjoy finding out more about the previous owners, or, in this case, the writer of my old books. Even better when the family's as interesting as this one.
I was doing a bit more delving myself this afternoon, Smith Child and Margaret nee Roylance had a very big family, but I couldn't work out if it was their son or their grandson who went into the church. Now I know it was the grandson! It's also confirmed that Elizabeth's husband was a churchman too, which could explain why they were living in Cambridge in 1840. (I'm guessing he may have had a post at the University.)
Not an Agnes to be seen unfortunately, but she may not have been a relative of course.
Thanks again!
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1851 Census 1 Belvior Place Cambridge
John Blunt 56 Widower Prof. Of Theory? BD born Cumberland (Seems born Newcastle)
Margaret 11 dau scholar at home Born Gt.Oakley Essex (John was rector until 1839)
Catherine 10 dau " " " born Cambridge
1861 cenaua
Both girls daughters of clergyman are visitors at a vicarage aged 21 & 20 Margaret Child their aunt is also with them
Harriet Blunt wid is also there seems John married again from a local family in Uttoxeter Mar qtr 1852 Harriet Sneyd Kynnersley.
John died 17/6/1855 in Cambridge.
I think Catherine Blunt married in to another church family 11/10/1871 Edward Albert Ollivant at St.Oswalds Derbyshire. He died in Sussex 1915.
Jennifer
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Margaret Blunt married Richard Henry Jelf (Army man) 1869 Ashbourne Derbyshire
1891 she is living in Portsmouth with her family and Margaret Child aunt aged 81.
census says she had 6 children 5 living.
Jennifer
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If you type in Google books and then ask for Elizabeth Roylance Child entries, it will give you a lovely piece on John James Blunt and his two marriages. Also he was buried with Elizabeth. ( I am so pleased).
Jennifer
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What an interesting man John Blunt sounds and yes, nice that he was buried next to Elizabeth and that their marriage must have been a very happy one. (Harriet too must have been a very understanding lady.) That article certainly explains a lot.
So there were 2 daughters. I see Catherine was born in Cambridge around 1841. I wonder if that explains Elizabeth's early death.
Thank you again for all your help, you've really brought the family back to life with what you've found. (They sound like they'd fit right into a Jane Austen novel!) I'll write it all down and keep it with the book.
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How exciting to have the cookbook!
Here are the other children of Smith Child Sr http://www.rootschat.com/links/01q2x/
Baddeley Child -baptism: 2 Jan 1774 f. ( Admiral) Smith Child mother: Margaret (nee Roylance)
His father Smith Child (1730 – 1813) was an officer in the Royal Navy. He served in the Seven Years' War, the American Revolutionary War, and the French Revolutionary Wars, rising to the rank of admiral. From the Admiral's mother, Mary Baddeley, the Child family inherited the estates of the
Baddeley family, which had lived at Tunstall for four hundred years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_Child_(Royal_Navy_officer)
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Thank you. It's a beautiful book and must have taken Elizabeth many hours of work.
I'm always interested in the previous owners of the books I buy and restore (my hobby is bookbinding), although it's rare that I have sufficient information to do any searching. Rootschat has helped me out before and I do very much appreciate it. On one occasion it worked in reverse and I was able to pass on information as the original owners had used a very large early 19th century dictionary to list births and deaths in their family.
There's a newspaper cutting in the book, unfortunately the name and date of the newspaper are missing, all I know is that it postdates 1957, probably not by very much. Apparently at that time the book belonged to a family called Taylor who lived in Ashington Northumberland, but they knew nothing about the writer or Agnes (the original recipient), or how it came to be in their family.
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If you google Admiral Smith Child you will see more interesting information.
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Her daughter, Margaret Blunt's husband Richard Henry Jelf was also the son of a reverend.
They inherited a sixth share of the Mill Farm Estate (from her Grandfather Baddeley Smith)
I had an interest in this lot, as I'd found an older publication with a claim for John James Blunts' ancestors to have also been a direct line ancestor of mine, which they are not...But the names Child & Smith, plus all the reverends, surely points to them as possibly having a connection somewhere along the roots of the family.
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Going to make a guess...Being that not many marriages took place in Staffs at that time. Could be way off base... and only the licence was in the correct year...But should anyone find a connection to this and a Taylor family, you never know.
Mucklestone (Muckston) Turnstall Barlaston Ashley are all close to Hales Hall.
Agnes Harding - bapt: 22 February 1807 Ashley, Newcastle-Under-Lyme Borough, Staffordshire,
Marriage: 7 Jan 1830 Ashley, St John the Baptist, Staffordshire, Eng.
spouse Rowland Heathcote Residence: Maer? Marriage Lic: 31 Dec 1829 Both age 21
father: Samuel Harding Esq.- mother: Ann (nee Hartshorne of Yoxall, Staffs.d.manor hall Yorks)
married Ashbourne, Derbyshire, England
Sam'l had a Meeting Place for Christian Worship - Willoughbridge Wells, Ashley
-1852 was a land agent, surveyor, and valuer for Staffordshire, Derbyshire & Shropshire
was churchwarden, then clerk to the Guardians of the Newcastle under Lyme Poor Law Union
- 1852 son next door: Rev Thomas Hartshorne Harding , M.A., rector, Rectory
His wife: Fanny/ Frances Heathcote
Her DEATH Mar 1899 (aged 91–92) East Bridgford, Rushcliffe Borough, Nottinghamshire, England
Her children Edward 1830, Rowland 1833, Godfrey 1835
Rowland Heathcote, later a.k.a. Heathcote-Hacker b. Nov 13 1802 Chesterfield, Derbyshire
of East Bridge Old hall - Occupation: Land Agent.
Of Manor Hall took name Hacker succeeded brother John at East Bridgeford who died 1870
Parents: Reverend Edward Heathcote Jr. b.1766 East Bridgford, Derbyshire d.1844 Rose Hill,
Chesterfield buried: East Bridgeford, Notts Marr. 1792 Jane Cock (1770-1809 leaving 9
children) only child of John Cock Esq.
GrParents: Reverend Edward Heathcote c.1726 Morton, Derbyshire (d.1801) bur: East Bridgford
Nottinghamshire Marr. Catherine Hacker dau of Robert Hacker Esq. East Bridgeford
& Co- heiress to his estate.
GrGrParents: Reverend Ralph Heathcote-rector of Morton/ Stavely b.1697- Derbyshire
d.1765 Leicestershire Marr. Mary Ockley c.1698 Morton, Derby dau. of Rev. Simon Ockley
His uncle who has been mistaken for him in several genealogies:
Rowland Heathcote Hacker d. ESQ lieutenant Colonel of the late newfoundland fencibles
youngest son of the late Rev Edward Heathcote and Catherine his wife
https://southwellchurches.nottingham.ac.uk/east-bridgford/hmonumnt.php