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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Canada Lookup Request => Topic started by: Gsj on Tuesday 26 February 13 09:57 GMT (UK)
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Hi all,
I am looking for assistance in finding further records for the above gentleman.
Henry was born in 1861 (I'm not sure if in Canada or Ireland) His father was Robert Henry Jones and his mother was Sarah Cook(e).
He was married in October 1899 in Kingston Frontenac Ontario to Citney Patterson. In marraige record Henry's occupation is listed as butcher.
From the 1911 census, they are listed in Sudbury Nipissing with 3 chrildren, Marjorie(B1900), Evelyn (B1906) and Robert (B1908). Also listed in the house at that time was a brother of Henry's, Charles Edward (B1865).
I have a death record for Charles at Nigara Falls, Ontario in 1937.
I am looking for detials of what happened to Henry and family after 1911. From anectodal family stories there may be links to Hatton & McKibbon families. There is also some sketchy stories of a church minister who may have gone by the name "Happy". Toronto is also listed as a possible destination for the family. I'm not sure if that is the whole family or just the children.
Thank you for reading and any assistance.
Regards
Glen
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Hi there.
The marriage record for Henry and the 1901 and 1911 censuses all have Henry b. Ireland. The marriage record gives the location in Ireland but I can't quite make out the entire word. The 1901 and 1911 census images have an immigration year of 1888/1889. If you don't have access to the original census images through Ancestry, they are available for free at this link .... click on 'split view' at the top to see the original image, which gives more info than the transcript.
http://automatedgenealogy.com/
Also, if your local public library subscribes to Ancestry Library Edition you can access Canadian records that way.
PB
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PB,
Thanks for that.
Yes Ireland is likely. His father left Ireland in 1840's for Canada and returned some time in the 1860's. If born Ireland, I suspect the record states Wexford. It may also state Ballybrennan as this was the townsland in Wexford they settled in back in Ireland.
Any idea where I'd go searching for death records. There does not appear to be anything on familysearch.org.
Regards
Glen
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The informant for Charles Edward Jones' death was his nephew Robert Jones of Queenstown, Ontario.
Robert Henry Jones b. 03 June 1909
Ebelyn Elizabeth b. 27 aug 1906
Helen Marjorie b. 15 Oct 1900
Marjorie Helen married Robert Reginald McKibbin, b. Que., living Riverdale Maryland, USA, occupation university professor. Marjorie living as 373 Runnymede Road Toronto as was her witness E. E. Jones. Marriage 21 Dec 1926 Toronto.
I would look at the Toronto Star - Pages of the Past for traces of your family. Privacy laws prevail in Canada and deaths in Ontario aren't released past 1939 at the moment. Up to 1938 are available online at ancestry.ca. Because of privacy laws we rely on cemetery records and newspaper articles to trace forward.
The death record of Charles indicated his body was to be buried in Toronto which would indicate that there was a strong family presence there in 1937.
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I believe, you need to look for the Disney Jones family from Ballybrennan House, Bree.
Not the Ballybrennan near Killinick in Forth. And yes Disney as in Disney land. Both Jones homes but as yet unrelated.
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Buried at Park Lawn Cemetery in Toronto
All names on the same headstone.
Henry Joseph Jones
04 Jul 1861 - 20 Oct 1942
Beloved husband of
Citney Jane Patterson
11 Mar 1869 - 09 Jun 1962
and
Rev Noble Hatton
14 Sep 1905 - 17 Nov 1997
Beloved husband of
Evelyn E Jones
27 Aug 1906 - 23 Dec 2005
From: Find a Grave
PB
Added: I believe the birthplace given for Henry on his marriage cert is Wexford Ireland
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Hi,
Evelyn Jones Hatton's obituary is here.. under McMullen (last name of one of her daughters). Near the end of the page. Her husband was Rev. Noble "Hap" Hatton.
https://www.ogs.on.ca/ogspi/2005/05xmu001.htm
RK
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1921 census in Sudbury, Nipissing, 172 Elm St W.
Henry Jones 60 b Ireland, to Canada in 1880, Butcher
Citney Jones 52 b Ontario
Marjorie Jones 20 b Ontario
Evelyn Jones 14 b Ontario
Robert Jones 12 b Ontario
RK
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Rev Hatton - article from 1967. Too bad the photo isn't clear.
http://images.ourontario.ca/Partners/HHPL/HHPL000091883p0002f.pdf
University photo of Noble Hatton here
https://archive.org/stream/torontonensis32univ#page/44/mode/2up/search/Hatton
RK
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Helen Marjorie Jones McKibbin died on April 2 2000 at Scarborough Centenary Hospital. In her 100th year. Sister of Evelyn Hatton and the late Robert Jones. Nieces are M J McMullen and E Armstrong. Nephew D Jones.
RK
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Many thanks to you all for your responses.
I have been able to piece together most to the information here but as of yet I have been unable to make a present day connection.
I have come to have a number of old photos from the late 1800s early 1900s which originate in Canada and a number of them relate to this family.
The obituary of Helen Marjorie does throw up a new lead in the nephew , D Jones. This presumably is Robert Jones's son. We were unsure if this gentleman had married but this appear to suggest that he did.
This Robert I have been unable to trace beyond 1937 when he is mentioned as the informant for his uncles death. He may have lived at that time in Queenstown Ontario.
Thanks again for all the help.
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Toronto Star April 3, 1937, page 26 - marriage announcement.
Robert Henry Jones, only son of Mr and Mrs Henry Jones, married Ruth Marguerite Schrag, eldest daughter of Mr and Mrs Roland Schrag. Wedding was on April 2 1937 at Metropolitan United Church in Toronto. Was performed by the groom's brother in law, Noble Hatton (so this is the correct marriage for your Robert Jones). Says they will reside in Queenston.
RK
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Looks like Robert died in 1987. Buried in Fergus, Ontario
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=94850342
RK
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Citney's obituary in 1962 (Toronto Star 11 June 1962, page 30) says Marjorie is in Manotick, Evelyn is in Toronto and Robert is in Georgetown.
RK
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Henry Joseph's obituary in the Toronto Star on Oct 21 1942, page 28... says he died at his home 323 Runnymeade on the 20th of October. At this time, Marjorie is in Georgetown, Evelyn is in Toronto and Robert is in Georgetown.
Hope this helps to follow Robert's whereabouts since the last sighting you had of him in 1937
RK