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Title: Military Records is two possible
Post by: mallow on Sunday 05 June 05 22:26 BST (UK)
Please can someone answer my question on whether it is possible to have two sets of army records. after my Grandfather joined the Army before ww1
his mother, it is said bought him out whatever that means, but he reinlisted again to serve until 1922 so would he just have all his service on the one record, or would they have made another record for him. :-\ Thank you in advance for help
Title: Re: Military Records is two possible
Post by: suey on Monday 06 June 05 09:03 BST (UK)

Hello Mallow - 'bought him out' means that his mother would have paid a sum of money in order to get her son out of the Army. 

Don't know if this can still be done today - it meant that if you joined up and did'nt like it, if you had the money you could get out.
Title: Re: Military Records is two possible
Post by: Wendi on Monday 06 June 05 12:22 BST (UK)
Mallow, I think the answer is a maybe !

I had a relative in a similar position, and on his pre-WW1 service record it noted that in 1915 they had paid him back some of his "Buying out money" when he re-joined, however as he re-joined a different Regiment he had a different Service number and record, and as you may know 70% of these were destroyed in WW2, however we were able to obtain the Regiment War Diary which made reference to him, as he was mentioned in dispatches twice.

Good Luck
Wendi

Title: Re: Military Records is two possible
Post by: mallow on Monday 06 June 05 15:28 BST (UK)
Thanks Wendi and Suey for that answer, on the medal roll would they have to say he was in two rergiments, or to give two service numbers it only gives one number.dont know where to go next. :-\
Title: Re: Military Records is two possible
Post by: Wendi on Monday 06 June 05 16:04 BST (UK)
If you want his service record visit http://www.mod.uk/contacts/army_records.htm
Tells you how
Title: Re: Military Records is two possible
Post by: Flipster on Monday 06 June 05 17:00 BST (UK)
To give you some idea, my grandfather was in 2 regiments in WW1.  This is his MIC card.  It shows both regiment nos.  You can search for the MIC card on National Archives and download the image for £3.50.
Title: Re: Military Records is two possible
Post by: mallow on Monday 06 June 05 17:37 BST (UK)
Thank you Flipster On my Grandfathers medal card it only mentions one regiment is it possible to join same regiment twice would you get different number ?
Title: Re: Military Records is two possible
Post by: suey on Monday 06 June 05 18:37 BST (UK)

Hello again - I've had a look at my Great Uncles Military Record.  He was in the Royal Sussex Regt. it was a bit earlier he joined in 1890 but was discharged in 1898 but was then on the Reserves list. 
He was re-called in 1900 and was finally discharged in August 1902.  He retained his original Army Number and all his records were together.   So it looks as though a similar thing may have been possible for your Grandfather.
Hope this helps...
Suey
Title: Re: Military Records is two possible
Post by: mallow on Monday 06 June 05 21:15 BST (UK)
Thanks again Suey but as my Grandfathers records were destroyed I have no way of checking all I have is medal card with one service number, also can you answer a question about medals please, if my Grandfather served in Aden during ww1 would he have got a campaign medal if so could you give me name of that medal
Title: Re: Military Records is two possible
Post by: Flipster on Tuesday 07 June 05 06:08 BST (UK)
It will depend on when he rejoined.  If it was 14/15 he would have got the Star to go with the Victory and the British medal. The best place to go is here, these guys know everything about WW1 and have a very active forum so join up and ask your questions...
http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/

Good luck!

Flipster
Title: Re: Military Records is two possible
Post by: mallow on Tuesday 07 June 05 21:05 BST (UK)
Thanks Flipster for that site, I will go and post message let you know how i get on :)
Title: Re: Military Records is two possible
Post by: mallow on Wednesday 15 June 05 21:03 BST (UK)
Hi Flipster that is a great site great at answering questions. well recommended now I know this is a long shot but I am looking for photo of 62 coy RGA any idea where i would look 8)
Title: Re: Military Records is two possible
Post by: manmack on Thursday 16 June 05 04:42 BST (UK)
hiya mallow,try this.
royal artillery regt museum
old royal military academy
woolwich
london
se18 4dn
tel 0181 781 5628
mack.
Title: Re: Military Records is two possible
Post by: Flipster on Thursday 16 June 05 16:41 BST (UK)
mallow,
glad you found it useful.  I got lots of help from them too

Good luck on your searching!