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Title: Possible 1870's fashion?
Post by: Kennington on Saturday 23 February 13 16:19 GMT (UK)
Can anyone date this picture? This couple, if it's who I think they are, were married in 1873, aged around 20. The man looks quite short. He was living with a chimney sweep aged 6, so would he have been put up the chimneys as a small built lad?
Do the fashions suggest a well-to-do couple?
Title: Re: Possible 1870's fashion?
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 23 February 13 16:31 GMT (UK)
Hi...The daters will want to see the back if you have it.
Carol
Title: Re: Possible 1870's fashion?
Post by: Kennington on Saturday 23 February 13 16:41 GMT (UK)
Sadly I only have a scan myself.
Title: Re: Possible 1870's fashion?
Post by: chinakay on Saturday 23 February 13 16:53 GMT (UK)
Around 1910 I'm afraid.

The lady is wearing a mushroom  hat! A thankfully short-lived fashion that came out in around 1908, designed to fit over a large hairstyle called a pompadour. Possibly she's also wearing a suffragette suit, 1910-about 1914.

Cheers,
China
Title: Re: Possible 1870's fashion?
Post by: Kennington on Saturday 23 February 13 18:11 GMT (UK)
Oh, very interesting  :) Thank you for that. Not who I thought it was then! Any idea on the age of this couple? mid 20s perhaps?
Title: Re: Possible 1870's fashion?
Post by: chinakay on Saturday 23 February 13 18:14 GMT (UK)
More like 30s by me...but due to photographic limitations and deterioration of old photos and the dearth of Pond's Beauty Cream etc, sitters can be pretty tough to age. By me anyway :P

Cheers,
China
Title: Re: Possible 1870's fashion?
Post by: Frankyfarrell on Saturday 23 February 13 21:18 GMT (UK)
Definitely around 1910. Rather than it suggesting 'a well off couple' I think this is more probably a wedding portrait, this was a very common wedding pose and the outfits the couple are wearing are very typical of wedding attire at this time, hope this helps :)
Title: Re: Possible 1870's fashion?
Post by: PrueM on Saturday 23 February 13 21:45 GMT (UK)
I'm not sure that, even back then, you'd find a photo of a bridegroom with a ciggie stuck in his mouth, would you?   ;D   It also looks a bit too casual for a wedding portrait.  They are certainly husband and wife, though.
Title: Re: Possible 1870's fashion?
Post by: Frankyfarrell on Saturday 23 February 13 22:50 GMT (UK)
You would be surprised,  we shouldn't forget the temptation to judge through modern eyes.  We have a number of securely dated and attested wedding photographs from this period showing exactly this fag in h
and. :)
Title: Re: Possible 1870's fashion?
Post by: PrueM on Saturday 23 February 13 23:18 GMT (UK)
I have certainly seen fags in hands  ;D but not sticking out the middle of the groom's mouth...still, we live and learn.  However I'm still of the opinion that it is too informal for a wedding pic.
Title: Re: Possible 1870's fashion?
Post by: Kennington on Friday 26 April 13 09:54 BST (UK)
I think I have worked this out if anyone is interested.  :)

This is Francis GINN (b 1886) and Eleanor (b 1888) at the wedding of his sister Elizabeth in 1910.
Francis was a chimney sweep (I originally thought the photo was of his father, who was also a sweep).
Francis and Eleanor were married in 1905, too early for this photo, but on further research found the marriage of Elizabeth which ties in quite nicely.