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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northumberland => Topic started by: The Putter on Thursday 21 February 13 11:51 GMT (UK)
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I am searching for the parentage of my 3 x Great Grandfather Robson Walton [Circa 1810 - March 5th 1870]
He married Mary Morpeth [1810 - 14/03/1891] in Allendale Feb 4th 1830.
Census returns state he was born in Newcastle. Neither IGI's or other databases of baptisms for Northumberland or Durham shed any light on his origins.
Allendale parish registers record of his marriage only confirm he was 'of this Parish' at the time of his wedding.
Robson has been described on census returns as, variously, a tailor/butcher/coal miner. The latter being his occupation when he died in a fall of stone when a 'Rolleywayman' in Cramlington Colliery.
I have often wondered if in fact Robson was NOT born in Newcastle but in rural parts, Allendale for example. At that time there was a strong movement of population away from rural parts of the N.E. and into the urbanised districts, particularly those along the lower Tyne and especially the city of Newcastle.
I am well aware of the dangers of guesswork but, having said that !
Garagill Baptisms 1730-1812.
Robert Walton [Feb 7th 1807]
Son of Henry Walton and Mary nee Robson.
Alston marriages show that Henry and Mary married on June 5th 1806 which suggests 'Robert' is their first child, indeed he must have been concieved on the wedding night !
I wonder if 'Robert' is indeed 'Robson', it being common practice for a first son to take his mothers surname as his christian name.
Could 'Robert' be a transcription error for 'Robson' ? I have only had sight of the typed transcriptions which have been extensively amended by manuscript entry subsequently. [The Garagill register shows that between 1701 - 1837 there are in excess of 3,700 Walton/Robson marriages.
One other of interest is in Stanhope. March 21st 1807 John Walton married Elizabeth Robson.
Over they ears I have been in contact with a few of old Robson's grandchildren and some have made 'educated guesses' as to his parentage based on naming of subsequent children etc etc.
To misquote Joe Friday in Dragnet....'Nothing but the facts maam'
I would welcome any [and I mean any] suggestions which could hopefully help me down this 'brick wall'.
Jack
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Do you have a list of which Newcastle churches you have checked, and whether they were the original records, transcripts or copies such as the bishops and archbishops transcripts
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For completeness, have you seen his entry at Durham Mining Museum's site ( Don't be confused, it covers Northumberland as well)
http://www.dmm.org.uk/individ0/i03900.htm (http://www.dmm.org.uk/individ0/i03900.htm)
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Yes, I have all the details about his accidental death, including information from that website.
Thanks.
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I have just had a little browse through the bishops transcripts for Alston with Gargill
Feb 1807
Robson illigit son of Mary Dowson
of Nenthead baptised
I did not see the baptism you have
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Mary Dowson marries a Leonard Thompson,
14th November 1812
Alston with Gargill,
1841 census,
West Nenthead
HO107/171/9
Mary Watson aged 40,supported by son,not born in county
Mary Watson aged 18,born in county
Robinson Watson,aged 16,born in county,lead miner
Jane daughter aged 13,born in county
so ages well out for yours
next door to
Leonard Thompson,aged 35 years a lead miner
who is possibly the son of Leonard Thompson,married 1827
Elizabeth Thompson,aged 30 wife
Thomas,12.washer in lead ore
Jonathon,11
Joseph,8
John,5
Woodmap,2,possibly names after Jonathon Woodmass,the witness at his parents marriage
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And yes I do waffle on Jack,
but as you have been looking for clues for fourteen years, a bit more wont harm,
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Using the 1841 census
Alston,freereg,
Jane Watson aged 14
possibly Jane Thompson
daughter of Leonard Thompson and Mary
abode Wellgill
baptised 30th June 1826
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Hoping to wake this one up again Jack
Going back to basics and Robson's assertion that he was born in Newcastle - you never did answer davidft's question in reply no. 1.
Which churches in Newcastle have you checked for his baptism?
Christine
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Christine,
I am afraid I don't have a list of Newcastle churches which were checked for Robson Walton's baptism. The 'investigation' as it were was a shared work. Other grandchildren of Robson said at the time [2003] that they had spent two day's at Morpeth records office trying to locate him in the Newcastle parishes. They then stumbled upon a hotspot of Waltons in Allendale and the surrounding parishes of Alston, Garrigill and some of their chapelries.The search then became [extremely] spread out.
I summised that these individuals had been thorough and checked out Newcastle churches........On reflection it's probably remiss of me to have done so !