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Some Special Interests => Travelling People => Topic started by: SophieF on Wednesday 20 February 13 15:32 GMT (UK)
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Hello Everyone,
My name is Sophie and I am trying to find any other relatives of Wisdom Smith & I know there are A LOT!
I am related to the Smith's through my Mother's side and Jemima Smith is my Great-Great Grandmother and Wisdom Smith is my Great-Great-Great Grandfather, which makes me 1/16th Romany gypsy.
My Mum lived in the quarry as a child and married my Dad in Trinity Church, Headington Quarry.
I would love to hear from any other relatives and see if we can tie up any loose ends.
Sophie x
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Hi and welcome
Freebmd has 2 marriages in Oxford for his name
Marriages March qtr 1860
Wisdom Smith to Priscilla Bagley Headington 3a 587 - this Wisdom was born in 1823 Short Hampton Oxfordshire
Marriages December qtr 1875
Wisdom Smith to Harriet Tolley Headington 3a 1109 - this Wisdom was born 1852 Charlton Oxfordshire and was the son of the above Wisdom. Priscilla appears to be his second wife
I will post census details in a minute
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1861 census for Headington Quarry
Wisdom Smith 38 b Oxford Shorthampton
Priscilla 40 b Brackley Northants
Sampson 18 b White Crop Bucks
Ann S 17 b Oxford ?? Frankfoot
Patience 15 b Chesterton Oxf
Ocean 13 (female) b Barton Oxf
Lucretia 11 b Chalton
Wisdom 9 b Chalton
Mary A 4 b Headington Quarry
Jemima 1 ditto
RG9 Piece 890 Folio 51 Page 29
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Hello,
Thanks for your reply. Yes, Priscilla was his second wife & Jemima a subsequent child from this marriage.
My mum has done a lot of research into the Smith family & have traced it back to Thomas Smith in the 1760/1770's in Brailes, Northants.
As there were so many Smiths, thought it'd be interesting to see where the relatives had ended up.
My family lived in the quarry until the early 90's & then moved away.
Sophie
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Looks like Priscilla was around a long time before they married so possibly wasn't a second wife
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J3JY-VBW
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J9SS-6JW
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J9SS-HPR
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Hi,
I am a descendent of said Wisdom Smith and Priscilla Bagley through his son Wisdom married to Harriet Tolley. I have got quite a bit of research but would live to get in touch to put more puzzle pieces together.
Can't wait to hear from you.
Sarah x
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Those with an interest in the Headington Quarry Gypsies might be interested to know that Keith Chandler will be giving a talk on Saturday May 10th about the community who lived and worked in the area in the 19th and early 20th centuries and regularly provided music for feasts, festivals and the Headington Quarry Morris Dancers.
The event being held in Iffley, Oxfordshire OX4 4EJ is open to non-Members of RTFHS, but you'll need to book. Go to http://rtfhs.org.uk/ and select Events to find out more.
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Hi my sons side (on his dads side) are the Headington Smiths. Masses of them lol. I have a big tree if you're interested. I was thinking of starting a Facebook page for the descendents of the Smiths, would anyone be interested? Im Romany gypsy from my own fathers side too, so we rokker the jib and go to the horse fairs.
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Hi, sorry it has taken me so long to reply .... no excuse, just busy with 5 kids!! I would be really grateful if we could swop whatever information we have on the Smiths. I can't wait to speak to you again.
Have a great Christmas :)
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Hi there, another relative here!, my great grandfather was Charles Smith son of Prudence Smith (Headington Quarry)
All the best
Steve
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Steve, if theres anything I can help you with or info you need let me know. I can give you my email in private message.
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Hi I am related to Wisdom and Priscilla through their son Samson
would love any further information, I have just received their death certificates and if correct Priscilla died in littlemore lunatic asylum and Wisdom in the oxford workhouse.
I'm thinking of making a trip to the oxford history centre soon to research further
Helen Willis
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Samson who married Elizabeth Bushnell? Welcome ;D Smith's still live in Headington, they're quite proud of their heritage! Priscilla was married to Wisdom's cousin Henry Smith first.
My notes on Samson: May 25th, County hall, Oxford: Charles Ward, Thos. Goodgame, and Samuel Smith [SAMSON], labourers, of Headington, were charged by P.C. King, with being drunk and riotous in the public street at Garrington on the 13th inst... [Case dismissed.] On 1871 census with wife Elizabeth (by her middle name Rebecca) and 4 eldest children. Living in the High St in Headington in 1881 with 6 eldest children. On 1891 census in Headington with wife and children except Thomas, Selina and Ada. On 1911 census at The Bank, Old Headington, widdowed with son Ernest. Samson & Elizabeth had a total of 12 children, 3 died before 1911. OR she could be the Elizabeth Bushell on the 1851 census who was born 1844, child of Wm and Maria of Headington quarry.
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Yes that's my smiths, I have record of priscilla dying in littlemore lunatic asylum and wisdom dying in Oxfordshire workhouse, how would I go about finding any more information for them, thanks
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I am a descendant - his daughter Mary Ann married my third great grandfather ;D
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Haven’t visited this thread in ages but it’s reminded me of the murder that took place, I need to get my tree up to see the ladies name but pretty sure if was a Charles Bagley , her husband , who killed her, may be mistaken on his name as it’s a huge tree. Daughter was Oceana.
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Lucy! I have screenshots of the newspaper article
Haven’t visited this thread in ages but it’s reminded me of the murder that took place, I need to get my tree up to see the ladies name but pretty sure if was a Charles Bagley , her husband , who killed her, may be mistaken on his name as it’s a huge tree. Daughter was Oceana.
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The screenshots of the newspaper articles are copyrighted, so you cannot post them here on RootsChat unfortunatley.
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Hi laurensimmo, I have the articles saved. Sad life she had.
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Other families living at Quarry site before manuy where moved onto the newly built council estate Barton ipposite the site were Webbs, Bakers, Hals, Whartons, Maces,Loveridges and many others