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General => Armed Forces => Topic started by: clematised on Friday 15 February 13 20:54 GMT (UK)
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I have just got a copy of records from the WO97 records and my Grandfather has joined the Kings Liverpool Infantry Regiment in India in 1889 British Subject and transferred to England in 1892 and had served in the Boer War and came out in 1902 living in Liverpool.
No mention of later service on the records but I have an Attestation record for 22 June 1915, he is a clerk and the Corps A.S.C.
Does this mean he did further service in the war a note on the top of the record has the word Duplicity written.
He was a widow with small children but the address he has given is Cotton Exchange Hotel Old Hall Street Liverpool.
I posted a photo a few days ago on the restores board and asked on here about Medals so now trying to prove he had been in the war.
If there is a record how can I get it or see it.
Edna
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I forgot to mention that ther is a number ss/12918 before the name and corps.
Edna
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Hi,
I think the word on the top of his record is Duplicate; I've seen that on others.
The majority of WW1 Army service records were destroyed in the bombing in WW2.
Nanny Jan
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So how could I find out if he earned some medals if he did service from this date.
Edna
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Yes he served overseas and was awarded 15 Star,British war and victory medals was promoted acting Sergeant
Ady
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Thank you that has made my day to know he could be the man in the picture then
wooohoooo I cant wait to see the record
Edna
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Edna
I don't think the mystery man is your man the mystery man has no visible Star and no boer war medals....that's my opinion
Ady
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Thanks Ady I realised that later so I am still unsure of who he is so will have to ask more questions from the person who supplied the photo.
Edna
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Hi Edna
Ady is right. They are different men. The one serving in the Liverpool Regiment during the Boer War gave his DoB as 1871. The ASC man from WW1 was born c1878. Also, the WW1 form gives the answer 'no' to any previous military service.
The Boer War veteran had older siblings Edward and Lily, and both his parents were dead by 1889. He is a widower living in Bootle in 1911. And his daughters do not match the children of the WW1 man.
Ken
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Ken I think Ady was referring to the photogrph, but you are saying that the Man Arthur Lloyd in WW1 is not the same man as in the 1911 cesus my Grandfather had children Lily, Beatrice, Mary, Isabella, I thought maybe he had joined up again giving a different age to get in.
Can you tell me more information on the Man in the WW1 record as researching military is new to me. He also was a Clerk which made me think he was my man.
I really need to be sure on this one as it has taken me many years to research this family as there is so little information on them.
Edna
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Hi Edna
Ady is right. They are different men. The one serving in the Liverpool Regiment during the Boer War gave his DoB as 1871. The ASC man from WW1 was born c1878. Also, the WW1 form gives the answer 'no' to any previous military service.
The Boer War veteran had older siblings Edward and Lily, and both his parents were dead by 1889. He is a widower living in Bootle in 1911. And his daughters do not match the children of the WW1 man.
Ken
Would have liked a reply just to confirm or deny if this is My Grandfather.
Perhaps other people may like to comment.
Family History research is such an ordeal and people really need a confirmation of their findings when others make it plain we have the wrong information.
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Hi Edna
I was reinforcing the problems with the photograph with the documentation provided by the Boer War record, the 1911 Census and the WW1 record.
The 1911 Census has the same place of birth (Naini Tal) as the Boer War papers. So you can compare the wife and children in the 1911 Census with the WW1 papers and they are different. WW1 Arthur’s wife is E M Wedekind (m1904). FreeBMD says Mary Elizabeth Wedeking. It also gives him the middle name of Owen. The children are Arthur Leonard (b1906) and Mary Elizabeth (b1910)
Also I have just noticed that the signature of the Boer War man does not match the WW1 man.
So ‘your grandfather’ is not the man in the WW1 ASC papers, and unlikely to be the man in the photograph.
Ken
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Also the man in the photo will not have gone overseas until after Jan 1916 as there are no Stars visible in medals so any medal index cards to lads with 1914/15 Stars should be put to one side
Ady
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Thank you for all this valuable information and I can now set my records straight in the knowledge I have got my Grandfathers correct record for India and the WW1 Arthur is definitely not mine.
Edna