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General => Armed Forces => World War One => Topic started by: Murphester on Wednesday 13 February 13 11:54 GMT (UK)
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I was given this photo today of my GGF, Albert Pullin (possibly Pullen), and would love to know anything and everything about his time in the army. I've found some possible candidates in the records on ancestry but I don't have anyway of confirming. Can anyone help?
What I know about him - b. Abt 1883 in Newport, Monmouthshire; married 1901 to Gertrude L M Went.
Many thanks!
(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk29/Murphester/Family%20Tree/AlbertPullin.jpg)
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Hi,
As an ex-serving member this cap badge looks like the Royal Artillery, the motto on the botom of the badge being "quo fas et gloria ducunt" which, from memory, means Forward Everywhere.
Victor
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Yes Royal Artillery. In WW1 all three branches, Royal Field, Royal Garrison, and Royal Horse Artillery all wore the same cap badge. This gentleman I think is RHA.
Not quite right with the motto Victor, the motto includes the word Ubique (everywhere) seen below the crown and goes on with the words at the bottom to read in total "Everywhere where right and glory lead"
MaxD
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Many thanks to you both.
MaxD - can I ask what makes you think he is RHA?
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I'm sorry Murphester, I have to confess I initially thought the bandolier was exclusively RHA. That is however not the case and he could well have been RFA or RGA. We can't see the shoulder titles (badges) which would have told us conclusively. I don't think there are any other clues in the pic but there may well be a real expert out there who could help you further.
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One chevron on his sleeves is Lance Bombardier, I think the ww1 Royal Horse Artillery cap badge was a 9 pounder cannon without the Kings Crown and without the scroll/motto, so perhaps your man is RGA or RA and possibly a driver, the ammunition bandolier was used by drivers of horses who pulled guns or limbers or other supply wagons.
James
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Many thanks all. Unfortunately I think I've hit a brick wall with this one as I can't find any records for him, other than a possible mention in the medal roll index which I cannot confirm.
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Could be Gunner Albert Pullin, Reg No. 745619, Royal Field Artillery.
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Could be Gunner Albert Pullin, Reg No. 745619, Royal Field Artillery.
Thanks Atom, that's who I think it may. I can only find these details on the Medal Roll Index and it unfortunately doesn't give any other info - I don't know how to find out more and confirm if it is actually him.
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He is in fact a Lance Bombadier (Lance Corporal) as he has a stripe on his arm. It is in a WW1 style which makes it hard to see but is there.
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He is in fact a Lance Bombadier (Lance Corporal) as he has a stripe on his arm. It is in a WW1 style which makes it hard to see but is there.
Alan, does that mean I can rule him out as the Gunner Albert Pullin (745619)?
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Probably as the medal card would say LBdr.
However if he was only a gunner but give local rank - ie he was not formally promoted but given LCpl temporarily, then his medal card would only show gunner.
Did you ever see or know if he had medals? If he did not serve overseas he wuld not have got any and thus no card.
Alan
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No, I don't know of any medals but my mother is fairly certain that he did serve overseas. The family had a number of children, with a large gap in-between whilst the war was on - presumedly he was OS.
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That artillery number would suggest Gnr P. served in Welsh Territorial artillery unit, possibly with 54th Division which fought in the Middle East; might there be a welsh connection?
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Definitely Battiscombe! He was born and lived in Newport, South Wales.
Are there Welsh records available somewhere? Is there any way I can confirm that he was part of that division?
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Medal index card would show rank he originally deployed with ...
With a name like that i think you have the correct card
Ady