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Title: isabella spencer
Post by: greeneyesgudge on Monday 11 February 13 18:54 GMT (UK)
Hello i am trying to locate issabella spencer  birth record and a census record for her.  her mother was Alice ann spencer ,all i know is that isabella married Charles bassett in 1918 in haslingden lancashire i dont know her year of birth yet either or her fathers name ? Lancashire might not even be her birth place as i am assuming maybey it is due to her marriage location .any help would be much appreciated thank you . :)
Title: Re: isabella spencer
Post by: lizdb on Monday 11 February 13 19:11 GMT (UK)
How did you find her mothers name?

Is there a father named n her marriage cert?
Title: Re: isabella spencer
Post by: heatherjulie on Monday 11 February 13 20:53 GMT (UK)
Hi
There is a baptism record for
Isabella Spencer born 3rd september 1899
Mother Alice Ann Spencer
Single woman
5th october 1899 Bradford, Holy Trinity, Yorkshire
Address 2 Mount Street

Heather
Title: Re: isabella spencer
Post by: heatherjulie on Monday 11 February 13 20:59 GMT (UK)
1901 In Bradford 192 Mount Street
George Atkinson 27
Elizabeth Atkinson 22
Alice Ann Spencer 23 Visitor
Isabella Spencer 1

50/4149/162/8


Heather
Title: Re: isabella spencer
Post by: Radcliff on Monday 11 February 13 21:05 GMT (UK)
Lancashirebmd

Ivy Basset,
mother Spencer
birth registered Rawtenstall A 1St Preston
1919
Title: Re: isabella spencer
Post by: Duck on Tuesday 12 February 13 08:21 GMT (UK)
Following heatherjulies post, the birth was registered in the Dec Qtr of 1899 in Bradford 9b 29

Regards

Simon
Title: Re: isabella spencer
Post by: Hassy Girl on Tuesday 12 February 13 14:15 GMT (UK)
27th July 1918
King Street Wesleyan Chapel Haslingden

Charles Bassett  25  Bachelor  Labourer  Rising Bridge  Father James Bassett  Furness Man

Isabella Spencer  18  Spinster   Cotton Weaver  7, Deardengate   Father Herbert Spencer (dec) Mason

Witnesses Walter Holden  Sarah Ann Pickles  Alice Ann Morris
Title: Re: isabella spencer
Post by: greeneyesgudge on Tuesday 12 February 13 14:55 GMT (UK)
Hi thankyou for your replyes .i know her mothers name because Isabella s son my father in law told me that was his grans name .so her father is herbet Spencer .and alice Ann Morris is her mother perhaps .thank you :-D
Title: Re: isabella spencer
Post by: Radcliff on Tuesday 12 February 13 17:15 GMT (UK)
Interesting on Lancashire opc

they have burials for Haslingden

30th October 1940
Walter Holden
aged 51 years
abode 92 Manchester Roaqd
occupation ,cotton weaver
grave C1167

13Th Jan 1936
Alice Ann Morris,
widow
aged 58 years
abode 13 Manor Road
parish district Blackpool,
Grave B817
Title: Re: isabella spencer
Post by: greeneyesgudge on Tuesday 12 February 13 17:37 GMT (UK)
That could be alice Ann burial record
Title: Re: isabella spencer
Post by: Hassy Girl on Tuesday 12 February 13 17:54 GMT (UK)
That particular Alice Ann Morris is buried at Haslingden Cemetery along with a few others.

BRADSHAW,Hannah   77      4.10.23      71 Deardengate
MORRIS,Alice Ann                58      13.1.36      Blackpool
MORRIS,Catherine Cecilia   53      24.12.07   4 Dale st
MORRIS,Thomas                61      2.10.24      71 Deardengate
MORRIS,William                50      21.6.09      Blackpool

I only have the records until 1968 so there may be others in as well.

I was going to check the newspapers after tea to see if the obits throw up any clues.
Title: Re: isabella spencer
Post by: greeneyesgudge on Tuesday 12 February 13 17:55 GMT (UK)
Hi all im quite confused as there is a few trees on ancestory with alice Ann father being a Richard or Hudson Spencer and her 2 nd husband being a George Edward cordon Morris and her first husband being herbet holroyd but that doesn't match with the opc records ?
Title: Re: isabella spencer
Post by: Hassy Girl on Tuesday 12 February 13 17:58 GMT (UK)
It could be just a co-incidence that Alice Ann was a witness at the wedding and that she is not Isabella's mother. I will go and have a look to see if I can find an obit and clear it up
Title: Re: isabella spencer
Post by: greeneyesgudge on Tuesday 12 February 13 20:34 GMT (UK)
ok ty
Title: Re: isabella spencer
Post by: greeneyesgudge on Wednesday 14 August 13 22:29 BST (UK)
Hi all I've been researching Isabella's mothers side of the tree  .Alice Ann Spencer .I think Alice Ann's father is Hudson Spencer and her mother is Sarah firth .Ive also found Hudson's parents Stevenson Spencer and  Isabella danbrough  maybey Isabella was named after her .also Alice Ann had a sister called Martha Elizabeth who married Edwin pickles  .I'm wondering if the witness Sarah pickles at Isabella's marriage to Mr basses is perhaps Alice Ann's niece ? .

I thought perhaps i was on the right track ,but theres something that doesn't make sense .and is confusing me .In 1901 Alice Ann married Mr George Edward cordin Morris .but Ive  found a marriage in 1902 between Alice Ann Spencer and Herbert holbroyd in bradford and it says the spouses father is called  Hudson Spencer .which goes with the top paragraph .But confusing bit ...she married Mr Morris in 1901 so I'm not sure what to think .theres also the info on her daughters Isabella's marriage to Mr basset stating Izzy's  father as being a Herbert Spencer .which is maybey Herbert holroyd but then Izzy was born in 1899.and I'm left thinking that if Alice married Mr Morris her surname would of been Morris when she married Herbert holroyd ,I'm quite confused . ???
Title: Re: isabella spencer
Post by: heatherjulie on Thursday 15 August 13 09:20 BST (UK)
Hi
I don't know if this is the Hudson you mean but I will post census details

1901
Hudson 49 single born Bradford Boarder living in Miles Platting, Manchester with Margaret and Austin Craven Iron moulder 3757/18/27

1891
Hudson 35 single born Bradford Yorks Lodger  living in Newton, Manchester with Thomas, Ann and John Bradley  Iron moulder 3253/128/19

1881
Hudson 30 single born Bradford Lodger living in Thornaby, Middlesbrough Metal Moulder Unemployed 4862/134/25

1871
Hudson 19 single living with his parents Stemson and Isabella and family in Bradford Iron moulder
4455/31/20

1861
Hudson 9 living with his parents Thompson and Isabella in Bradford 3317/66/29

Heather
Title: Re: isabella spencer
Post by: heatherjulie on Thursday 15 August 13 09:34 BST (UK)
1881
117 Jowett St, Bradford
Hartley Firth 64
William Hartley Firth 11 son
Sarah Spencer 30 daughter
Martha Elizabeth Spencer 5 grand daughter
Alice Ann Spencer 3 grand daughter born Keighley, Yorks

4453/5/3

Martha Elizabeth Spencer christened Bradford St Peter 22nd December 1875 parents Hudson Spencer and Sarah