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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Topic started by: Harper 7 on Sunday 03 February 13 04:07 GMT (UK)
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I cant seem to hop the pond back to Ireland, can you help?
Looking for James Harper (Apr 1816, Antrim (or possibly Cavan)-10 Jan 1890, Wellington, Ontario, Canada)
Married: Abigail Blanchard (1822, 23, 27? Bertie Ontario OR Ireland-22 Apr 1914 Wellington, Ontario)
Children:
Many but I am sure of:
John A Harper (17 Apr 1865, Mt Forest, Ontario-29 Jan 1935, Waterloo, Ontario)
Henry Drew Harper (7 Sep 1867, Wellington, Ontario-1 aug 1916, Mt Forest, Ontario)
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One of my relatives is Matthew Harper born in 1835 in Cavan
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Is this him?
Church Baptism Record
Name: James Harpur Date of Birth:
Date of Baptism: 29-Oct-1818
Address: Saintfield/parish Co Down Parish/District: Blaris
Gender: County Co. Antrim
Denomination: Church Of Ireland
Father: John Harpur Mother:
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:
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If the family left remaining relatives in Ireland,, the Harper/ Harpur s living in Co Antrim as in Griffiths valuation
http://www.failteromhat.com
first surveyed about 1860, in their civil parishes with an approx number of homesteads see the Co Antrim section in if the family left remaining relatives in Ireland,, the remaining Harper/ Harpur s were living in Co Antrim as Griffiths valuation was first surveyed about 1860 in the following parishes with an approx numbere of homesteads
2 in Ahoghill
2 in Antrim
1 in Ballyclug
4 in Ballylinny
1 in Ballymoney
15 in Carnmoney
2 in Carrickfergus
2 in Connor
2 in Craigs
1 in Donegore
5 in Drummaul
2 in Dunaghy
2 in Grange of Doagh
1 in Grange of Muckamore
1 in Grange of Nilteen
12 in Killead
1 in Larne
3 in Portglenone
40 in Shankill
4 in Templepatrick
1 in Tickmacrevan
One could search the Tithe-Applotments Books 1823 to 1838 , indexs for each parish above if they have survived in the Co Antrim section of
http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/
The likely hood of your James being listed is very slight, as most names appear to be of legal age.
the James entries are and in several parishes include more than one
Harper James Ballyduff Carnmoney
Harper James Ballysculty Killead
Harper James Carnmoney Carnmoney
Harper James Doagh Grange of Doagh
Harper James Grange of Carmavy Killead
Harper James Main Street,Antrim Antrim
Harper James Smithfield Townparks Wilson Street Shankill
Harper James St. Ann's Ward Townparks Hopewell Street Shankill
Harpur James Magheralane Drummaul
Harper/Harpur’ s in Co Cavan are already listed on
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/
Harper Patt Quivey Annagh Cavan 1825
Harper Wm Quivey Annagh Cavan 1825
Harper Wm Drumlarney Killashandra Cavan 1832
Harper Wm Drumlarney Killashandra Cavan 1832
Harper Robert Curraheen Shercock Cavan 1825
Harper George Curraheen Shercock Cavan 1825
Harpur Robert Baley Templeport Cavan 1826
so you have a difficult task infront of you.
good luck onwards
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thanks. I think you are right - a difficult task. May keep looking into the Kent family.
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If John Harper is the father of Matthew Harper we may be on the right track.
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switching to Maggsie’s information re Saintfield in Blaris district which is in both Co Antrim and Co Down
below from
http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/down/tithe-applotment-books/saintfield-parish.php#.Vy7WfmOoc5Q
Harper, James Townland: Drumaligg Gordon Year: 1834
Harper, John Townland: Lisdalgon Year: 1834
notes Blaris civil parish which is both counties, doesn’t contain Saintfield but those borders might change if it a religious area ie C of I and Catholic parishes of the same name may include different townlands etc. no Blanchard found in the above database. Drumaligg is only one townland away from Comber civil parish, Lisdalgon is just nw of Saintfield itself
moving to Ros Davies Co Down website
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/B/Bl.htm
BLANCHARD family Blaris of Huguenot origin who came to Lisburn area from France in 1600s HL
Corpl. . BLANCHARD . Comber held a lease for 31 years from Mount Alexander Estate from 1681
notes only two tantalizing entries. the center of theMount Alexander estate is just to the north of Comber itself, Comber parish sits along the NE border of Saintfield parish we are only about 5-7 miles apart
the existing church records as per Ros Davies website and www.nidirect.gov.uk/sites/default/files/publications/Guide_to_church_records.pdf
this is PRONI, Belfast which gives
C.I. Saintfield (Down diocese)
Baptisms, 1724-57 and 1793-1961; marriages, 1724- 57, 1798 and 1813-45; burials, 1824-1831 and 1834- 78; confirmations, 1832; vestry minutes, 1730-1920, which include accounts; minutes of Saintfield Auxiliary Bible Society, 1837-57.
Churchwardens’ accounts, 1871-; cess applotment, 1833-; register of vestrymen, 1870-; preachers’ books, 1849-69 and 1877-1924.
P. 2nd Boardmills
Baptisms, 1846-1950; marriages, 1847-1902; session minutes, 1857-1908 and 1931-66, [session minutes, 1931-66, relate to the congregations of 2nd Boardmills and Killaney].
Marriage notice books, 1871-1901.
P. 1st Saintfield
Baptisms, 1854-1986; marriages, 1845-1905; marriage notice book, 1871-7.
Session minutes, 1845-69; treasurers’ book containing a list of seatholders, 1855-60.
Volume of manuscript notes giving dates and places of death of members, c. 1950-c.1961.
P. 2nd Saintfield
Baptisms, 1831-1902; marriages, 1831-1930; burials, 1831-84; details of elders, 1831-9.
R.C. Carrickmannon and Saintfield (Down and Connor Baptisms, 1837-81; marriages, 1845-83.
you need to look up the pdf to get microfilm references etc
I wonder did Maggsie know which church, the above suggests its Church of Ireland, so? is it worthwhile looking for Blanchards
good luck