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Title: Manchester 1940s births in Prestbury
Post by: craven481 on Saturday 02 February 13 14:03 GMT (UK)
During, and just after, WWII Manchester's maternity unit used three different premises in the safer suburbs of Prestbury Cheshire

My birth certificate gives my place of birth as St Marys Hospital [Village Branch] Prestbury R D [assume Rural District].

According to St Marys archivist this would have probably referred to Prestbury Hall, with Collar House being shown as Prestbury Main Branch, and Adlington Hall was reserved for wives of serviceman - my father was in a reserved occupation so that is ruled out.

I was under the impression I was born at Collar House by another Mancunian who was born there but it now seems I might have been born at Prestbury Hal,l but I am not 100% certain (the  archivist only said 'probably') !

Are there any Mancunians out there who were born at Prestbury Main Branch and know for certain this referred to Prestbury Hall?

I have no relatives to ask now, but would like to know just exactly where I was born.
Title: Re: Manchester 1940s births in Prestbury
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 02 February 13 14:36 GMT (UK)
This from http://www.prestburycheshire.com/hall.htm:

Col.P.M. Armitage purchased the Hall from the Legh Estates in April 1927. During the 1940/45 war the house was used as a maternity hospital as part of “The Country Branch” of St Mary’s Maternity Hospital, Manchester.
Title: Re: Manchester 1940s births in Prestbury
Post by: craven481 on Sunday 03 February 13 10:51 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that.

Saying it was part of the Country Branch confirms it was one of the three branches of St Marys. Just a pity the article didn't refer to it was the Village Branch.

Prestbury Hall is now up for sale on Right Move for £8,750,000!  I'm not a footballer so won't be making an offer.

Still hoping someone out there can confirm Prestbury Hall was St Marys Village Branch.
Title: Re: Manchester 1940s births in Prestbury
Post by: phodgson on Tuesday 06 May 14 23:24 BST (UK)
During, and just after, WWII Manchester's maternity unit used three different premises in the safer suburbs of Prestbury Cheshire

My birth certificate gives my place of birth as St Marys Hospital [Village Branch] Prestbury R D [assume Rural District].

According to St Marys archivist this would have probably referred to Prestbury Hall, with Collar House being shown as Prestbury Main Branch, and Adlington Hall was reserved for wives of serviceman - my father was in a reserved occupation so that is ruled out.

I was under the impression I was born at Collar House by another Mancunian who was born there but it now seems I might have been born at Prestbury Hal,l but I am not 100% certain (the  archivist only said 'probably') !

Are there any Mancunians out there who were born at Prestbury Main Branch and know for certain this referred to Prestbury Hall?

I have no relatives to ask now, but would like to know just exactly where I was born.
I was born at Collar House on August 12 1947. My recently acquired copy of a birth certificate
Says in column 1 St. Marys Hospital Prestbury RD. I thought RD was road but anyway my mother visited England in 1980 and had her photo taken at Collar Hall. In all my years I never heard her say I was born at St. Marys she always referred to it as Collar House or Hall. I wonder if the booklet is still available.É
Title: Re: Manchester 1940s births in Prestbury
Post by: craven481 on Friday 09 May 14 11:04 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: Manchester 1940s births in Prestbury
Post by: craven481 on Friday 09 May 14 11:08 BST (UK)
Forgot to say there's more on Collar House on this earlier Forum

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=565786.0 (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=565786.0)

Ken
Title: Re: Manchester 1940s births in Prestbury
Post by: phodgson on Sunday 11 May 14 13:14 BST (UK)
Hi Ken
I got your email but my reply keeps bouncing back.
Is .co correct or should it be .com?
Title: Re: Manchester 1940s births in Prestbury
Post by: craven481 on Sunday 11 May 14 13:47 BST (UK)
Sorry - I put a comma instead of a stop so it should end
.co.uk

Ken
Title: Re: Manchester 1940s births in Prestbury
Post by: martianpoolwoman on Tuesday 11 August 15 19:14 BST (UK)
I was in Prestbury today 11/08/15 and my brother was saying that he was born there in 1950 as an overspill to St Mary's . He always believed he was born at Prestbury Hall.

Veronica
Title: Re: Manchester 1940s births in Prestbury
Post by: craven481 on Thursday 13 August 15 11:25 BST (UK)
Veronica

Does your brother have a copy of his birth certificate?  It may give a clue as to which premises he was born in?

Mine, 1945,  says St Marys Hospital [Village Branch] Prestbury R D [assume Rural District].

Collar House would probably have been shown as shown as St Marys Hospital Prestbury Main Branch.

Certainly a nice village to be born in whichever place it was.
Title: Re: Manchester 1940s births in Prestbury
Post by: martianpoolwoman on Thursday 13 August 15 12:31 BST (UK)
My brother's birth certificate for 1950 said Village branch and our mum always said he was born in Collar House.

I am wondering how long Prestbury was used after the war.
Title: Re: Manchester 1940s births in Prestbury
Post by: Mary P on Saturday 12 August 17 16:45 BST (UK)
I was born in December 1948 and my birth certificate says Prestbury. This correspondence suggests Prestbury Hall was only used till 1945, so is it more likely I was born in Collar House?
Ken, any ideas?
Title: Re: Manchester 1940s births in Prestbury
Post by: craven481 on Tuesday 15 August 17 13:06 BST (UK)
Hi Mary

Somewhere on my computer I've got a PDF file of two chapters from a book about St Mary's Hospital and the chapters refer to the war years and the post war years and I think it mentions both units being open until the early 1950s, though Prestbury Hall was just used as nurses' accommodation for the last year of its existence.

I'll get in touch when I find the file.

Regards
Ken
Title: Re: Manchester 1940s births in Prestbury
Post by: Mary P on Tuesday 15 August 17 17:43 BST (UK)
Thanks, Ken

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Title: Re: Manchester 1940s births in Prestbury
Post by: Denise Ross on Friday 14 June 19 13:40 BST (UK)
Yes. Highly likely. My mother was born in Collar House, October 30th 1946. It was the former home of Sir Oswald Moseley. I found this great little article online which might help shed some light  :)

http://brickcourse.blogspot.com/2013/10/a-wartime-hospital_27.html?m=1
Title: Re: Manchester 1940s births in Prestbury
Post by: chempat on Sunday 07 July 19 08:58 BST (UK)
Denise,
The article from the link states:

'One website states categorically that this had been the home of Sir Oswald Mosley, leader of the British Union of Fascists. Not very well researched for the Moseley family of Prestbury did not even spell their name in the same way as Sir Oswald'